mac vs pc

[MWRed]

Viruses / malware.

Mac's aren't immune to viruses / malware. The main reason Windows based PC's have a lot more targeted infections is because it has a much higher marketshare / user base than Macs.

Which is why no-one can really be bothered with widespread Mac infections.



When is this debate?

Exactly!
THAT is a perfect example of what I hear all the time about Mac vs PC, and people don't grasp the facts.
It's the same reason IE gets very bad press when it comes to vulnerabilities and issues. It's because it is more widely used than other browsers, so of course it's going to be exploited more. ( I know a Mac fanboy, and he insists his Mac is king.)

I'm a Mac about 50% of the time but because I'm super paranoyed if I'm download a Windows installer package off the web I always, where possible, download it on Mac run it through my Mac's antivirus which detects both Mac and Windows viruses; so I neutralise any problems before they can even be called a threat.

The paranoyed one; aka Oli.

Good idea really.
Nothing wrong with doing that if it works. If ya got it, use it.

 

[l)ark_Scorpion]

PC or Mac?

PC:

1. Most software is written for Windows.
2. Windows is what most people are familiar with.
3. Windows makes like without walls .
4. Windows PC's are normally less expensive.
5. As long as you have an updated firewall and Anti virus, you're pretty much safe from hackers and viruses, unless you go to malware websites.

Mac:

1. Not much software is written for it.
2. It's pretty much a status symbol. (Makes me want to avoid it)
3. Fruit... Lots and lots of Fruits work on it.
4. It's slow, and unreliable (last time we used it in school it crashed and locked up more than Windows did)
5. Not as user friendly as windows.
6. You pay double or triple for a Mac than the Windows equal.

It doesn't matter if people say that Mac is better because it's safer, harder to hack, and other bull, because Windows is updated all the time, and as long as you have a good AV and firewall, you're safe. I'd rather have a little more risk than have no software for my computer. You need to have a little risk to gain more.

So in the outrun, Windows is better than Mac. I bet Apple will be a dead computer company someday as well, since they are too over priced, and not have much benefits over Windows. Apple nearly went bankrupt, but the Apple iPod saved them. Soon that may change because Zune will dominate Apple after people realize they can have more sounds held on a Zune than an iPod.

 

[Jesse02]

Put it this way:~

You want to buy a Phone...

You have a choice:~

1. Windows phone. (does everything you want and more has the latest tech and not very problematic. Cheap and not the greatest looks but is fully functional. Goes out of date within 2 years so you can buy a new one again at a reasonable price on a regular basis).

2. Ipod phone. (does mostly everything and has a lot of great apps. The latest tech and easy to use. Expensive to buy, and looks great. Is out of date after 1 year and you have to buy a new one as soon as you can afford a new one. So you can't buy a new one on a regular basis. [Unless your well off]).


So, its pretty much the same for computers. The Ipod fad infatuation will deplete over time as people come to terms with the reality that it's just a glorified phone for them personally. And, the elite will only require one.
Reality is that the economical one, will be for people like myself (The masses) on a budget. The iPhone and the iMac are just expensive models of the ordinary phone and the ordinary PC. We all buy what we can afford and some people just like to stretch them selves to afford that 1 personal thing that is a bit more expensive than the norm.
I love the iPhone but I can only afford the PC. (Think about it!)

My mother had two samsung windows phones and they just crash and burn. She went through two in one month. I love windows but only in a computer. My sister's xbox crashes all the time also and the interface is goofy.

I love my windows computers! I also love my iPhone too! I used to buy a new cell every few months because they would break or not do what i want. I've had my iPhone over a year and I still love it. I get regular firmware updates through my itunes account. Plus i can get a new one after a year and a half for the discounted upgrade price. I can get a 3gs right now for 200 dollars. I'm waiting to see what the new is like first though. I'm not a fan of macs but man I love the iPhone!

But I am a PC! My buddy has a laptop with windows 7 and I am just jealous!

 

[osholt]

PC or Mac?

PC:

1. Most software is written for Windows.
2. Windows is what most people are familiar with.
3. Windows makes like without walls .
4. Windows PC's are normally less expensive.
5. As long as you have an updated firewall and Anti virus, you're pretty much safe from hackers and viruses, unless you go to malware websites.

Mac:

1. Not much software is written for it.
2. It's pretty much a status symbol. (Makes me want to avoid it)
3. Fruit... Lots and lots of Fruits work on it.
4. It's slow, and unreliable (last time we used it in school it crashed and locked up more than Windows did)
5. Not as user friendly as windows.
6. You pay double or triple for a Mac than the Windows equal.

It doesn't matter if people say that Mac is better because it's safer, harder to hack, and other bull, because Windows is updated all the time, and as long as you have a good AV and firewall, you're safe. I'd rather have a little more risk than have no software for my computer. You need to have a little risk to gain more.

So in the outrun, Windows is better than Mac. I bet Apple will be a dead computer company someday as well, since they are too over priced, and not have much benefits over Windows. Apple nearly went bankrupt, but the Apple iPod saved them. Soon that may change because Zune will dominate Apple after people realize they can have more sounds held on a Zune than an iPod.

I must dispute several of these claims (although most are valid), when Macs run on a Windows based network they do expierienced problems from time to time but when setup as animdipemdant computer, they are just as if not reliable than Windows. I must also say in terms of software although not as much is written for Mac compared to Windows, when it boils down to it, you can run all the major programs (MS Office, MSN, Adobe software etc.). Macs also have software that Windows does not have iWork, iLife, Aperture etc.). If there is a Windoes app you want to run on your Mac you just use Boot Camp, Wine or Virtual Box; this actually means that more software can be run on Macs than on Windows.

Also may I point out that Zune will never kill the iPod in it's current format. First of all Zunes are USA only (none over here in England), second of all Zunes are not compatible with most iTunes media formats so it'll be hard pushed to get existing users to change over. Thirdly, iPods aren't just about being able to listen to your music and media on the go any old MP3 player can do that, it's about doing that while being reliable, efficent, compatible, user friendly and beautiful.
Oli

 

[l)ark_Scorpion]

Put it this way:~

You want to buy a Phone...

You have a choice:~

1. Windows phone. (does everything you want and more has the latest tech and not very problematic. Cheap and not the greatest looks but is fully functional. Goes out of date within 2 years so you can buy a new one again at a reasonable price on a regular basis).

2. Ipod phone. (does mostly everything and has a lot of great apps. The latest tech and easy to use. Expensive to buy, and looks great. Is out of date after 1 year and you have to buy a new one as soon as you can afford a new one. So you can't buy a new one on a regular basis. [Unless your well off]).


So, its pretty much the same for computers. The Ipod fad infatuation will deplete over time as people come to terms with the reality that it's just a glorified phone for them personally. And, the elite will only require one.
Reality is that the economical one, will be for people like myself (The masses) on a budget. The iPhone and the iMac are just expensive models of the ordinary phone and the ordinary PC. We all buy what we can afford and some people just like to stretch them selves to afford that 1 personal thing that is a bit more expensive than the norm.
I love the iPhone but I can only afford the PC. (Think about it!)

My mother had two samsung windows phones and they just crash and burn. She went through two in one month. I love windows but only in a computer. My sister's xbox crashes all the time also and the interface is goofy.

I love my windows computers! I also love my iPhone too! I used to buy a new cell every few months because they would break or not do what i want. I've had my iPhone over a year and I still love it. I get regular firmware updates through my itunes account. Plus i can get a new one after a year and a half for the discounted upgrade price. I can get a 3gs right now for 200 dollars. I'm waiting to see what the new is like first though. I'm not a fan of macs but man I love the iPhone!

But I am a PC! My buddy has a laptop with windows 7 and I am just jealous!

Haha, about the Xbox... I've NEVER had any problems with my Xbox, and Idk how my friends do. The only friends that have problems with them are the ones that play it 24/7. So I'm guessing people just play them so much that they burn up, or the get pissed at the game and bust it on purpose.

I will NEVER buy any apple product after what happened to me. The battery in my iPod nano died 11 months after the purchase. Apple told me I had to ship it to them so they could fix it, but I HAD to pay for it to be shipped (to and from) AND the battery.

Why I dislike apple:
1. Horrible customer support
2. Nice looking products, but not functional, or useful
3. iPods have horrible battery life and audio quality
4. Apple is just a show off of how much money you got
5. You can get a Windows based equivalent for the same price with the same hardware, or even less priced.

Apple wonders why they never get sales, it's because they have crap products in pretty looking costumes, and on top of that it's over priced and no good customer support.

 

[Jesse02]

Put it this way:~

You want to buy a Phone...

You have a choice:~

1. Windows phone. (does everything you want and more has the latest tech and not very problematic. Cheap and not the greatest looks but is fully functional. Goes out of date within 2 years so you can buy a new one again at a reasonable price on a regular basis).

2. Ipod phone. (does mostly everything and has a lot of great apps. The latest tech and easy to use. Expensive to buy, and looks great. Is out of date after 1 year and you have to buy a new one as soon as you can afford a new one. So you can't buy a new one on a regular basis. [Unless your well off]).


So, its pretty much the same for computers. The Ipod fad infatuation will deplete over time as people come to terms with the reality that it's just a glorified phone for them personally. And, the elite will only require one.
Reality is that the economical one, will be for people like myself (The masses) on a budget. The iPhone and the iMac are just expensive models of the ordinary phone and the ordinary PC. We all buy what we can afford and some people just like to stretch them selves to afford that 1 personal thing that is a bit more expensive than the norm.
I love the iPhone but I can only afford the PC. (Think about it!)

My mother had two samsung windows phones and they just crash and burn. She went through two in one month. I love windows but only in a computer. My sister's xbox crashes all the time also and the interface is goofy.

I love my windows computers! I also love my iPhone too! I used to buy a new cell every few months because they would break or not do what i want. I've had my iPhone over a year and I still love it. I get regular firmware updates through my itunes account. Plus i can get a new one after a year and a half for the discounted upgrade price. I can get a 3gs right now for 200 dollars. I'm waiting to see what the new is like first though. I'm not a fan of macs but man I love the iPhone!

But I am a PC! My buddy has a laptop with windows 7 and I am just jealous!

Haha, about the Xbox... I've NEVER had any problems with my Xbox, and Idk how my friends do. The only friends that have problems with them are the ones that play it 24/7. So I'm guessing people just play them so much that they burn up, or the get pissed at the game and bust it on purpose.

I will NEVER buy any apple product after what happened to me. The battery in my iPod nano died 11 months after the purchase. Apple told me I had to ship it to them so they could fix it, but I HAD to pay for it to be shipped (to and from) AND the battery.

Why I dislike apple:
1. Horrible customer support
2. Nice looking products, but not functional, or useful
3. iPods have horrible battery life and audio quality
4. Apple is just a show off of how much money you got
5. You can get a Windows based equivalent for the same price with the same hardware, or even less priced.

Apple wonders why they never get sales, it's because they have crap products in pretty looking costumes, and on top of that it's over priced and no good customer support.

Yea but my iphone is useful. It tells me what a song is for free! Not 50 cents a pop like the other phones I have had. Gps in my car and also I use it to play music in my car. No more burning music on to disks. I'm saving a ton! As for battery life it's ok. It's great one day then drained the next. They say push notifications cause that but no, they don't. I've turned them off and found no better battery life. I also use my iphone to control my pc. I don't need a keyboard or mouse. I can also control my computer no matter where I am simply with my iphone. The list goes on and on. You can control the lights and things in your house from anywhere or even start your car from anywhere. I'm sorry but an iphone is a pretty useful tool.

 

[Tarka Dal]

Put it this way:~

You want to buy a Phone...

You have a choice:~

1. Windows phone. (does everything you want and more has the latest tech and not very problematic. Cheap and not the greatest looks but is fully functional. Goes out of date within 2 years so you can buy a new one again at a reasonable price on a regular basis).

2. Ipod phone. (does mostly everything and has a lot of great apps. The latest tech and easy to use. Expensive to buy, and looks great. Is out of date after 1 year and you have to buy a new one as soon as you can afford a new one. So you can't buy a new one on a regular basis. [Unless your well off]).


So, its pretty much the same for computers. The Ipod fad infatuation will deplete over time as people come to terms with the reality that it's just a glorified phone for them personally. And, the elite will only require one.
Reality is that the economical one, will be for people like myself (The masses) on a budget. The iPhone and the iMac are just expensive models of the ordinary phone and the ordinary PC. We all buy what we can afford and some people just like to stretch them selves to afford that 1 personal thing that is a bit more expensive than the norm.
I love the iPhone but I can only afford the PC. (Think about it!)

My mother had two samsung windows phones and they just crash and burn. She went through two in one month. I love windows but only in a computer. My sister's xbox crashes all the time also and the interface is goofy.

I love my windows computers! I also love my iPhone too! I used to buy a new cell every few months because they would break or not do what i want. I've had my iPhone over a year and I still love it. I get regular firmware updates through my itunes account. Plus i can get a new one after a year and a half for the discounted upgrade price. I can get a 3gs right now for 200 dollars. I'm waiting to see what the new is like first though. I'm not a fan of macs but man I love the iPhone!

But I am a PC! My buddy has a laptop with windows 7 and I am just jealous!

I take it your family is not very lucky with hardware. Namely Samsung phones. No surprise there my mate has had 3 new Samsung phones in the space of 4 months.

@Jesse02
Seems you find it useful, but none of the apps have any use for me. It's just a glorified phone.
iPhone ~ £800+
Phone ~ £7.49.

This tells me I can buy 106 phones for the iPhone!!! Where's the logic. It will only last 2-3 years, then you have to buy a new one. No logic there!

I am not a Mac basher! Just a realist.

 

[Katokato]

mac sux

1. mac didnt develop their own kernel
2. mac is based around the BRAND not the actual functionality or usage
3. u pay 1,500$ for a traditional 4gb ram average integrated graphics card, average hard drive. on a pc, you pay 299 bux for the same thing, AND it is upgradable.
4. good artists make, great artists steal, but the best artists are microsoft!
5. microsoft is smarter than apple in so many levels
6. windows runs on 99% of pcs, cuz macs have bootcamp which is windows on a mac, so therefore, trhe mac user isnt happy with mac and is using windows
7. windows has more native applications and programs than mac does
8. anything from apple = overpriced crap

and did u win the debate?

 

[kiddieboy12]

I tied, I was kicking a$$ but then the teacher played favorite, and decided to tie it.

 

[smarteyeball]

I tied, I was kicking a$$ but then the teacher played favorite, and decided to tie it.

That sucks. Favorite pupil or biased MAC owner?

 

[zxcs12]

I'm going for pc, because:
-More software
-Nicer layout
-More gaming
-More user friendly
-Cheap
-Way more USB 2.0 ports D:
-Sony Vegas Pro 9 doesn't run on a mac
-The standard mac mouse or something doesn't have a rightclick button, you need like... Hold CTRL and then click D:

 

[Thedarkside]

Im pretty sure the whole reason apple got into the ipod/phone market in the first place is because they were getting their a** handed to them in the computer market...

I personally would never buy a product from them just based on the ownership of the company and the marketing stratagy they use (not to mention im a gamer and gaming is almost non-existant on a mac). Bottom line is, Microsoft knew what market to target with there products, apple didnt. The success of the companies speak it all.

 

[kiddieboy12]

favorite pupil
family friends GRrrr..

 

[Katokato]

favorite pupil, favorite brand, no really any fairness. that just goes to show how arrogant some mac users are (not all though)

 

[kiddieboy12]

Basiclly sums up everything, because she cannot say i lose, because I have a really good comebacks and debate, she just said Tie..

 

[l)ark_Scorpion]

Windows owns Mac. If you like Macs better, PLEAAAASE do us a favor, and don't come onto a WINDOWS forum

 

[kiddieboy12]

thats what i don get..some people have mac, and use bootcamp on vista, then they start bagging on how microsoft fails in life..
ITS SOO DUMB

 

[l)ark_Scorpion]

thats what i don get..some people have mac, and use bootcamp on vista, then they start bagging on how microsoft fails in life..
ITS SOO DUMB

LOL I KNOW!! Mac Lovers = Failures.

 

[kiddieboy12]

NO OFFENCE OF COURSE..
Plus Pc tool firewall plus, is good, but the pc tool engine takes alot of CPU

 

[smarteyeball]

favorite pupil
family friends GRrrr..

Unfortunately bias is just part of life.

So this class has not only taught you how to formulate a persuasive argument, you've also learnt that sometimes no matter how truth is delivered, you will not succeed.