Whats the Best Antivirus/ Security Suite??

[spawn]

I prefer:

F-Secure Security Client 2009 + Spybot S & D....the best defense out of all the others I've tested.

NOD32 is apparently junk...
Kas is equivalent to NOD32
Trend Micro Security Suite doesn't really test fully like F-Secure does.
Norton Internet Security, Complete, it's a resource hog, and defends are ok...

My company uses Sophos AV, which is supposedly to be good.


However, Bit-Defender Security wins the shootout, but my fave is F-Secure....I researched and done many different tested....I liked the 2 complete software protection as I do a lot of technical software, banking online, college training online, etc......


Just remember when you use the online free scan, they will always add the numbers of AV's/Mal3ware/Trojans, etc...just to scare you and make you buy there software...

 

[mike-cow]

Norton Internet Security, Complete, it's a resource hog, and defends are ok...

Norton Internet Security 2009 is NOT a resource hog. It's the slickest security suite out there. It has insanely good scanning capability, and very few false positives. Granted, NOD32 is better when it comes to false positives, but it comes with the price of a WAY lower real threat detection rate. Symantec has really hit the jackpot with this version. I barely notice it's running!

The F-secure suite isn't even near the performance of the most recent norton suite... Try it and you'll be as amazed as I am.

I've replaced NOD32 on all computers I manage. I don't regret it, it's definetely a HUGE improvement.

 

[spawn]

Thanks for your input....

That just goes to my better judgments and opinion...everyone has there opions...I especially like F-Secure...

I will give the Norton Total Security a shot, with the 2009 version, see what it does...

We have quite a few IT professionals prefer Sophos and F-secure...F-Secure 2009 is awesome, I barely even noticed the program running, just like you do with Norton.

Everything is a little new, especially Norton, to even receive that praise for there great program.

Cheers

 

[mike-cow]

Yeah, it's a market full of change.

2006 - Trend micro (The 2008 security suite from trend never worked well for me, so nod32 took over for a while)
2007 - Nod32 (Just an intermediate since I didnt like any of the other choices)
2008 - Norton (This refers to the 2009 suite, but 2009 has not started yet.. )

Here's what I read that convinced me to actually give the norton suite a shot, otherwise I'd still have claimed it to be bloat just like you did...
Norton Internet Security 2009 Internet security and firewall reviews - CNET Reviews

 

[joel406]

Sorry...the last 3 postings are so far off its sickening.

NOD32 has had the top spot at the av comparatives and VB 100 for at least the last 5 years. And hardly a day goes by that I dont have to run Norton out of some poor chumps system in order to get it working again. And Nortons 2009 offering is absolutly as bad as any they have ever slopped out.

If it works for you woo hoo!

But recomending it is irresponsible.

NOD32 flaunts a 95~98% detection rate and zero false positives.

Norton cant make 40%. Hasent for a loooong time.

If you want good AV, Norton is the wrong place to look.

Free AV. Avast!

Get the best.

NOD32!

Hope that cleared that up for the nOObs.

 

[mike-cow]

But recomending it is irresponsible.

NOD32 flaunts a 95~98% detection rate and zero false positives.

Norton cant make 40%. Hasent for a loooong time.

Virus Bulletin : News - AV-Test release latest results

Get a REAL clue before claiming such nonsense.

(You'll note that norton actually has WAYYYYYYY better than 40% even on internet security 2008.... And both of them detect more malware than nod32...)

 

[spawn]

Sorry...the last 3 postings are so far off its sickening.

NOD32 has had the top spot at the av comparatives and VB 100 for at least the last 5 years. And hardly a day goes by that I dont have to run Norton out of some poor chumps system in order to get it working again. And Nortons 2009 offering is absolutly as bad as any they have ever slopped out.

If it works for you woo hoo!

But recomending it is irresponsible.

NOD32 flaunts a 95~98% detection rate and zero false positives.

Norton cant make 40%. Hasent for a loooong time.

If you want good AV, Norton is the wrong place to look.

Free AV. Avast!

Get the best.

NOD32!

Hope that cleared that up for the nOObs.

Who you calling nOObs? Dude, :eek:....

Haha, give it up....you haven't even worked in the real world of IT of 1000+ computers...do your homework...

In facts, I was just related to my opinion, not that I expect you to believe it, FREEDOM of speech, so I test, and look around a lot, work with lots of computers...Again, at work they use Sophos, it works great..

For home office, with a few hundreds remote connections, banking, etc....F-Secure, that's me...

If you like the FREE AV Crap--- Avast, and NOD32 couldn't even find my dad's virus, F-Secure took care of it....real facts overrules reality...

I'm done...with this topic, move along, move along...:D

 

[mike-cow]

I'm done...with this topic, move along, move along...:D

Just don't move too fast and forget to try NIS2009. :D
Post your impression here after, or just pm it if you fear going public . I'm curious, because *everyone* scream bloat when I say norton, and it's always nice to see their jaw drop when I'm right. hehe.

 

[Pharaoh]

are you kidding me, none at all.. why is that? do you have a security suite that does everything then. or do you not have anything??? explain why you don't have anything, surely you have something.. lol. if not then I pray for you cuz one day ur going to Say Goodbye to ur stuff, not to be mean. but that **** just happens sometimes. unless you never ever use email, myspace, anything... basically

I don't use any virus program either. Never have. Though, there are SO MANY different scenarious depending on the person that can merit whether or not a person should have one, me personally, I do not need one. I read the news, check email, go on Facebook or MySpace and that's it. I don't play games, I don't download and install programs or hack programs by looking for crackz or serialz on any of those websites. I don't look at porn. (I'll be honest and say a lot of most people's encounters with spyware and adware are from porn sites). I do not use instant message programs. I'm a very very simple computer user. I know all about hacking and modifying and altering programs galore. So knowing so much I guess justifies not needing a virus program.

Before I upgraded to Vista, having just XP. I had all the latest updates by default and never used any other program whatsoever. Now, having Vista, it comes with Windows Defender, but I've never needed to worry. I've run it once and it found nothing. So it's kind of useless actually, to me.

If you want my official opinion to your original post however, I will suggest this:

Windows Live OneCare. I got it for my parents because my Dad likes to visit "peculiar" sites once in a while, and they've had problems in the past that I had to fix and I was curious how those problems occurred, but I don't ask questions. I just fix. So I had given them Nortan Anti-Virus but too many times it just seemed like it caused a lot of problems and for the cost it wasn't worth it.

I read about some others, compared them all, and narrowed it down to OneCare. It's pretty efficient. The nice thing is, it integrates itself with your Live ID (hotmail.com email account if you have one) so you can register your PC in what they call their OneCare Circle. As well, you can add 2 or 3 other PC's to it, under one subscription. So for a family, that's handy.

Lastly, it runs with little resources. It doesn't prompt you to update. It also comes with a Tune-Up feature, that Scans your system for viruses, defragments your system, checks for windows updates and removes unecessary files to keep your system clean, all the while running in the background.

So, I have used it for a while to test it out, and it works flawlessly. You can tell it to even prompt you every time any program chooses to access the interenet (in the Firewall settings) and once you select allow, it won't prompt again, but it's up to the user. It also tries to do back ups for you. The backup feature is pretty nice. It will backup system files and important documents (photos, emails, etc) for you. You can choose which files to otherwise, but minimally it's good to have a system back up, and it fits it all onto one cd (without the photos, music and such).

So that's my input.

 

[Fumz]

OMG... can we get rid of the spammer?

 

[Pharaoh]

OMG... can we get rid of the spammer?

Dude, I'm reporting you. You make no sense with your offense.

 

[z3r010]

Calm down folks

 

[NormCameron]

I get by with Defender and The shield, which uses Kaspersky technology. The reason for The Shield was that I like Kaspersky and The Shield was cheap. I've had it 5 years now and it's served me well (touch wood). The combination of these and Firefox seems to keep me fairly well insulated.

 

[dmex]

I'm done...with this topic, move along, move along...:D

Just don't move too fast and forget to try NIS2009. :D
Post your impression here after, or just pm it if you fear going public . I'm curious, because *everyone* scream bloat when I say norton, and it's always nice to see their jaw drop when I'm right. hehe.

Norton AV 2009 is definably way better on handling resources last time I tried it...I dunno about NIS2009

are you kidding me, none at all.. why is that? do you have a security suite that does everything then. or do you not have anything??? explain why you don't have anything, surely you have something.. lol. if not then I pray for you cuz one day ur going to Say Goodbye to ur stuff, not to be mean. but that **** just happens sometimes. unless you never ever use email, myspace, anything... basically

I don't use any virus program either. Never have. Though, there are SO MANY different scenarious depending on the person that can merit whether or not a person should have one, me personally, I do not need one.

I dont use AV either and use myspace, facebook, play games... UAC and Defender defiantly do a good Job removing the need for AntiVirus :D

Theres always a VM for the really questionable stuff

 

[mike-cow]

(I'll be honest and say a lot of most people's encounters with spyware and adware are from porn sites)

Wrong!

I'm a very very simple computer user. I know all about hacking and modifying and altering programs galore. So knowing so much I guess justifies not needing a virus program.

Wrong again! It justifies INSTALLING an antivirus. My main computer has been running without active antivirus for quite some time. I STILL do manual scans regularly. NIS2009 changed that though, I run it with all features on with minimal impact on performance.

Before I upgraded to Vista, having just XP. I had all the latest updates by default and never used any other program whatsoever. Now, having Vista, it comes with Windows Defender, but I've never needed to worry. I've run it once and it found nothing. So it's kind of useless actually, to me.

Wrong again! It's the same as saying "I ran an antivirus once a year ago, it detected nothing so I figure I don't need it"...

So I had given them Nortan Anti-Virus but too many times it just seemed like it caused a lot of problems and for the cost it wasn't worth it.

Yes, that's the recent track record of norton for the last few years. Norton Internet Security 2009 is something rather different, but as you don't care about having your computer in a botnet it's likely all the same to you.

I read about some others, compared them all, and narrowed it down to OneCare. It's pretty efficient. The nice thing is, it integrates itself with your Live ID (hotmail.com email account if you have one) so you can register your PC in what they call their OneCare Circle. As well, you can add 2 or 3 other PC's to it, under one subscription. So for a family, that's handy.

Lastly, it runs with little resources. It doesn't prompt you to update. It also comes with a Tune-Up feature, that Scans your system for viruses, defragments your system, checks for windows updates and removes unecessary files to keep your system clean, all the while running in the background.

So, I have used it for a while to test it out, and it works flawlessly. You can tell it to even prompt you every time any program chooses to access the interenet (in the Firewall settings) and once you select allow, it won't prompt again, but it's up to the user.

I can't subscribe to onecare in sweden, so I wouldn't know. I doubt it's as efficient as some of the older suites out there, but I've not seen any numbers on it so it's just prejudice.

Scan for viruses - Yepp.. NIS2009 does that
Defragments my system - Yepp.. Vista does that periodically for me already..
Checks for windows updates - Yepp.. Vista does that....
Remove unnecessary files - That's in Vista too... Though I prefer nCleaner.
Firewalling -Yepp.. NIS2009 does that. Even the default firewall in vista does that to some extent...

And NIS2009 doesn't prompt me to update anything either btw...

It also tries to do back ups for you. The backup feature is pretty nice. It will backup system files and important documents (photos, emails, etc) for you. You can choose which files to otherwise, but minimally it's good to have a system back up, and it fits it all onto one cd (without the photos, music and such).

So that's my input.

Cool description of the *already built in* features of Windows Vista... I'm impressed.

Btw... I couldn't fit my important documents (without photos and music and such) onto one CD with a crowbar, it's over 1GB compressed.

 

[dmex]

Guys,

Take a look at this report, The only AV to pass was Symantec with 3% :eek:

http://www.vistax64.com/vista-news/186794-top-security-suites-fail-exploit-tests.html

I'm a very very simple computer user. I know all about hacking and modifying and altering programs galore. So knowing so much I guess justifies not needing a virus program.

Wrong again! It justifies INSTALLING an antivirus. My main computer has been running without active antivirus for quite some time. I STILL do manual scans regularly. NIS2009 changed that though, I run it with all features on with minimal impact on performance.

Wrong again! It's the same as saying "I ran an antivirus once a year ago, it detected nothing so I figure I don't need it"...

both of us dont use Antivirus... why the hell should we?

We are both experienced enough to spot suspicious files and deny these files UAC rights so the virus is harmless...

Its been nearly two years since Vista was released and I have not had to use AV once and have had no virus`s or malware infect my system...

Being aware of entry points like websites, e-mail and IM make it really damm easy to spot suspicious files...

E-mail:
If i get an attachment from someone I always reply and ask them what they sent...UAC will stop anything from gaianing full administrator rights so seeing UAC prompt itself while opening an attachment is a huge indicator its a virus

Websites:
Well UAC runs them as a 'sandbox' so their not going to get much further than that

IM:
I can just ask them instantly

UAC makes windows security like linux(UAC has all the same features as SU, works exactly the same as SUDO and protects the filesystem like linux does)
If it was never included with windows I definalty would be using a AV and have a totally different story...If I go back to using XP even with Antivirus I can 100% guanantee you beyond doubt I would be infected within hours every day

 

[NormCameron]

Dmex, I see the logic. and I agree. But. I need a dummy. And, I always lock the door behind me. So, I am still gonna use an antivirus.

 

[mike-cow]

UAC makes windows security like linux(UAC has all the same features as SU, works exactly the same as SUDO and protects the filesystem like linux does)

No it doesnt work exactly like SUDO. SUDO requires initiation by the user, which is a FAR better method of solving the security issue. It would be better to have any automatic installation just fail unless it's manually initiated. Regular Joe will quickly learn that "UAC means click accept", and render it useless. System updates should be encrypted by a secure keypair so they can be easily verified as authentic.

If it was never included with windows I definalty would be using a AV and have a totally different story...If I go back to using XP even with Antivirus I can 100% guanantee you beyond doubt I would be infected within hours every day

Because every single day you need to cancel UAC prompts you didn't initiate? An updated XP is not THAT much unsafer than Vista...

 

[Chappy]

Just remember when you use the online free scan, they will always add the numbers of AV's/Mal3ware/Trojans, etc...just to scare you and make you buy there software...

Now that statement is TOTAL BUNK!!
No major and respected AV online scan would EVER do this....EVER! Symantec, Eset, and other major AV companies have far too much to lose by pulling that crap with online scans, only shady AV vendors and antimalware scans will pull that kind of act, so please maybe you should stop posting such FUD as that.

You can argue your point on your choice of AV product all you want, that's your right as long as you post verifiable statistics from respected test facilities to back them up (if you use stats), but when you lump ALL online scans into that (False Positives for sales purposes) bracket you're posting pure FUD and misleading less savy users. If you "claim" to be big IT guy you should know better than that.

 

[skunksmash]

well after a plethora of bugs in AVG8 i have moved to AVAST home & i gotta say im impressed so far.....the actual program is far smaller & the interface & prompts are much improved.

SK