What a night!!!

Thanks but I knew most of that. It didn't have any info on changing restore point locations either....

~Lordbob
 

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Hi SIW2,

Yes thank you for that, I'll study it later :D a big help indeed, sorry lordbob that I put a link up to something you already knew lol I was'nt feeling great last night hence not thinking straight, still it may help others for what it does say :D

Jekyll and Hyde ;)
 

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Hi SIW2,

Yes thank you for that, I'll study it later :D a big help indeed, sorry lordbob that I put a link up to something you already knew lol I was'nt feeling great last night hence not thinking straight, still it may help others for what it does say :D

Jekyll and Hyde ;)
Hey no problem. I know how it feels.

~Lordbob
 

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I have since done as the Tutorial said and set it to 3 Gig, should be more than enough

Well Lordbob I know what my epitaph will read:

Name **** ****** *********
"Was a fountain of useless information" LOL :o

Jekyll and Hyde ;)
 

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I have since done as the Tutorial said and set it to 3 Gig, should be more than enough

Well Lordbob I know what my epitaph will read:

Name **** ****** *********
"Was a fountain of useless information" LOL :o

Jekyll and Hyde ;)
Oh, you got skilled, so you obviously know what you are doing! Besides, you are always learning! Remember, the only time you stop learning is when your dead. Or unconscious...

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[ Remember, the only time you stop learning is when your dead. Or unconscious...

~Lordbob

Not quite true...

When your dead or unconscious, your learning what it's like to be dead or unconscious. Applying that knowledge however.... ;) :p
 

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[ Remember, the only time you stop learning is when your dead. Or unconscious...

~Lordbob

Not quite true...

When your dead or unconscious, your learning what it's like to be dead or unconscious. Applying that knowledge however.... ;) :p
Lol ok fair enough. But if you are dead....

~Lordbob
 

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J&H, hi mate, you mentioned you had boot problems with the other HD connected. If they are both SATA then it sounds as if the computer is trying to boot from the second drive. Swapping the cables over should fix this. It is set in the BIOS as boot priority.
 

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..or get your PC bloke to do it before you return home with your case :)
 

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Hi roy69,

Thing is that my HD's Vista and XP are in seperate caddies, and so I used to be able to switch off, and put a key in to unlock the HD and then pull it out, then get the XP caddie slide it into the vacant slot that the Vista HD was in, and then lock the XP caddy in place with a key, and things worked just fine, but now its not having any of it.

I have the XP disk in and press any key to boot from CD, but no as soon as the PC realises that I have pressed any key to boot from the CD it simply gives me the same error ntldr is missing, press ctrl-alt-del.

Looks like me and XP must part altogether now, sad really because it was handy as a backup if Vista had problems, and then I could come online using XP and get the help required to get Vista going again, but fortunately that has not happened in a fair while, and I hope it never does :D

Hi smarteyeball,

Yes that thought did occur to me, but he would charge me extra and I can't afford it

The puzzle continues I guess

Jekyll and Hyde ;)
 

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Hi Chris,

Sorry to hear of your problems. Am I correct in saying that it is your drive with XP on that you tried to install the game and with which you are now having problems?

Does your system recognise this drive? Boot up and enter your BIOS (usually by pressing Esc, Del, or F2 - see your manual for instructions). Is the drive listed? Since the drive is in a caddy and is therefore designed to be removeable, it is possible that the connections inside the caddy might have worked loose, so check them. I suspect that the drives are IDE, so this might explain your problem with the other drive in your system. Check the jumper settings on your hard drives - the one in your system (which you have currently disconnected) should be set as SLAVE SL and the ones in your caddy as MASTER MA (assuming, of course, that they are connected to the same cable with the internal drive on the middle connector and the drive in the caddy connected via the end connector. If it is the other way round, simply swap the connectors or, if that is not possible, swap the MA and SL settings on your hard drives. Whilst you're at it, is the internal drive recognised in the BIOS with no other hard drives connected?

If these drives and your optical drives are both IDE, then make sure that the jumpers on your optical drives (if you have more than one) are set to the appropriate setting for their position on the cable, and that they are connected to the Secondary IDE connector on your motherboard, with the hard drives connected to the Primary (again, refer to your motherboard manual).
 

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Hi Chris,

Sorry to hear of your problems. Am I correct in saying that it is your drive with XP on that you tried to install the game and with which you are now having problems?

Does your system recognise this drive? Boot up and enter your BIOS (usually by pressing Esc, Del, or F2 - see your manual for instructions). Is the drive listed? Since the drive is in a caddy and is therefore designed to be removeable, it is possible that the connections inside the caddy might have worked loose, so check them. I suspect that the drives are IDE, so this might explain your problem with the other drive in your system. Check the jumper settings on your hard drives - the one in your system (which you have currently disconnected) should be set as SLAVE SL and the ones in your caddy as MASTER MA (assuming, of course, that they are connected to the same cable with the internal drive on the middle connector and the drive in the caddy connected via the end connector. If it is the other way round, simply swap the connectors or, if that is not possible, swap the MA and SL settings on your hard drives. Whilst you're at it, is the internal drive recognised in the BIOS with no other hard drives connected?

If these drives and your optical drives are both IDE, then make sure that the jumpers on your optical drives (if you have more than one) are set to the appropriate setting for their position on the cable, and that they are connected to the Secondary IDE connector on your motherboard, with the hard drives connected to the Primary (again, refer to your motherboard manual).


Hi Dwarf,

No you are partly correct, I have not installed any game on the XP HD, there are games on it, but it just won't boot, I'll have a look at it this evening and see if I can check all that.

I have to say sorry here as I am finding this very tough to explain correctly, lack of vocabulary is not helping lol

I only have the two caddies, no other HD's connected in the Case, well there is one, but its completely dis-connected, no chance of the system seeing it.

I'll post back later with results

Chris ;)
 

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I have to say sorry here as I am finding this very tough to explain correctly, lack of vocabulary is not helping lol

Hi J&H, may be if you post a whole bunch of pix of all components and layout of the computer with cover removed and we can tell exactly what you try to say and then we can make very detail suggestions.;)


Bruce
 

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Hi Bruce,

Oh dear, I hate to say it, but I am really of no help at all here, as I do not have the equipment to do that, ie digital camera or other means.

I guess I am doomed :(

So Sorry guys

Jekyll and Hyde ;)
 

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Hi Bruce,

Oh dear, I hate to say it, but I am really of no help at all here, as I do not have the equipment to do that, ie digital camera or other means.

I guess I am doomed :(

So Sorry guys

Jekyll and Hyde ;)
We are not doomed until Apple takes over the OS market.

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I feel so stupid and annoyed at myself about my XP problems, I'll elaborate:

No wonder I could'nt get anywhere and the reason was staring me in the face all the time, infact it was right under my nose, anyone guessed yet? yes my keyboard :o

I am something else really :mad: I'm so sorry to everyone in this thread that tried to help me, I've wasted your time totally, and I sincerely apologise for being an idiot :o

I still have'nt fixed it though as I need to re-read the posts that told me what to do, but suffice it to say that I will be ok come the moment I want to do it, I did try to guess my way trhough it, but failed, in the end I hope I have'nt caused more problems as in my anger I went into the Help section found something called FIXBOOT and chose that tried to boot again, but still ntldr is missing, but like I say I tried to guess my way round it, but will now re-read the posts made by those that knew what to do.

Apologies again

Don't think I have the nerve to show my face here again after this :o

Jekyll
 

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