Speed up a slow starting computer

[ilikefree]

Re: How long can I go without new updates on a Vista Home Premium 64 bit computer?

It took 283 seconds to reboot

That's still no good.

Try disabling everything in the two snips except the Avast as that is all that you need to run at start up.
Run the boot speed timer again and post back

 

[ilikefree]

Re: How long can I go without new updates on a Vista Home Premium 64 bit computer?

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Is this what you wanted to see?

Yes thanks, none are needed at start up except the security Avast Antivirus.

 

[ilikefree]

Re: How long can I go without new updates on a Vista Home Premium 64 bit computer?

I am going to ask for this thread to be renamed "speed up slow starting computer' and have it moved to the general section

 

[Lexicat]

Re: How long can I go without new updates on a Vista Home Premium 64 bit computer?

That's still no good.

Try disabling everything in the two snips except the Avast as that is all that you need to run at start up.
Run the boot speed timer again and post back

I ran the reboot check and it said 171 seconds but I left my printer on so I did it again with printer off and it said 133 seconds.

 

[ilikefree]

Well that is getting better than the 10 minutes you had on the first post but still is a bit more than I would like.
Just over 2 minutes
We could stop the restore point at start up and set it to a schedule if you like. Let me know Mine is set to 6pm and 12pm
Did the MalwareBytes scan find many PUP'S ?
I could offer a few programs to help monitor things at start up but don't really want to add more.
I think I saw you had a system tune up program of some sort, if it is set to start with Windows please stop it.
Run the boot speed timer a couple of times and see if it improves a little.

Edit: Just a thought, Do you have anything connected with a USB when you start your computer?

 

[Lexicat]

Well that is getting better than the 10 minutes you had on the first post but still is a bit more than I would like.
Just over 2 minutes
We could stop the restore point at start up and set it to a schedule if you like. Let me know Mine is set to 6pm and 12pm
Did the MalwareBytes scan find many PUP'S ?
I could offer a few programs to help monitor things at start up but don't really want to add more.
I think I saw you had a system tune up program of some sort, if it is set to start with Windows please stop it.
Run the boot speed timer a couple of times and see if it improves a little.

I have Malwarebytes and it hasn't detected anything for a while. It did detect some PUP from my System Mechanic but doesn't seem to be a problem. That is the tune up program you're talking about. Not sure if I should have it, it does do some good. The only thing I worry about is the registry errors it corrects. My computer completely froze about 3 months ago and had to take to a specialist who said the registry was possibly causing the problem. It is running pretty good right now. Not sure what you mean about setting up a schedule. Please elaborate. I use the computer from about noon to midnight if that helps any. Will do a few more reboots and get back to you. Thanks much!!

 

[Lexicat]

Edit: Just a thought, Do you have anything connected with a USB when you start your computer?

Just a printer.

 

[ilikefree]

OK The printer could be a cause of a slow start up.
The sfc .scannow scan I asked you to do looked at your system files and found no problems and the disc check found no bad sectors so I don't think you have any major problems.
Windows makes a restore point when it starts and sometimes it is better to have a scheduled time to do it instead.
A good start up monitor is Auto Runs or Whats In Start up
EDIT: Both are portable

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902.aspx

WhatInStartup - Disable/delete programs at Windows startup

 

[Lexicat]

OK The printer could be a cause of a slow start up.
The sfc .scannow scan I asked you to do looked at your system files and found no problems and the disc check found no bad sectors so I don't think you have any major problems.
Windows makes a restore point when it starts and sometimes it is better to have a scheduled time to do it instead.
A good start up monitor is Auto Runs or Whats In Start up
EDIT: Both are portable

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902.aspx

WhatInStartup - Disable/delete programs at Windows startup

Did another restart and it took 123 seconds. I will get around to the restore options sooner or later. Seems to startup a little faster but not much. Thanks for the assistance. Are there any other instructions I should follow?

 

[ilikefree]

Looks like it is coming down. That is the quickest it has been.
Please note these are ideas not instructions and since we set a restore point you can always revert.
Set another before doing any of the following.
Autoruns is a very good tool, It does not install as a program you just extract it from the zip file and double click the .exe
Over the years I have done lots of tweaks to my laptop and trying to think which to get you to do now has me a bit stumped.
In services you could set the following to manual start

Diagnostic Policy Service
Distributed Link Tracking Client
IP Helper (Set it to Automatic Delayed Start)
Offline Files
Performance Logs & Alerts
Program Compatibility Assistant Service
Print Spooler If you plan to use a printer in the near future, make sure you leave the service as Automatic
Remote Registry (Most users rarely make use of this service, so you may disable it.)
Secondary Logon, I disable
TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper (Not Recommended if you’re on a network and use file and printer sharing over it.)
Windows Error Reporting Service, I disable
Windows Image Acquisition (WIA)
Windows Search I disable and search still works
Windows Time (If you do not want to synchronize system time with internet time automatically)

You could also set the wait to kill time to act quicker it's a registry change
Press Windows key and R
Type regedit and press enter
Go to the following key and reset the value
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control]
"WaitToKillServiceTimeout"="2000"

 

[Lexicat]

Looks like it is coming down. That is the quickest it has been.
Please note these are ideas not instructions and since we set a restore point you can always revert.
Set another before doing any of the following.
Autoruns is a very good tool, It does not install as a program you just extract it from the zip file and double click the .exe
Over the years I have done lots of tweaks to my laptop and trying to think which to get you to do now has me a bit stumped.
In services you could set the following to manual start

Diagnostic Policy Service
Distributed Link Tracking Client
IP Helper (Set it to Automatic Delayed Start)
Offline Files
Performance Logs & Alerts
Program Compatibility Assistant Service
Print Spooler If you plan to use a printer in the near future, make sure you leave the service as Automatic
Remote Registry (Most users rarely make use of this service, so you may disable it.)
Secondary Logon, I disable
TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper (Not Recommended if you’re on a network and use file and printer sharing over it.)
Windows Error Reporting Service, I disable
Windows Image Acquisition (WIA)
Windows Search I disable and search still works
Windows Time (If you do not want to synchronize system time with internet time automatically)

You could also set the wait to kill time to act quicker it's a registry change
Press Windows key and R
Type regedit and press enter
Go to the following key and reset the value
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control]
"WaitToKillServiceTimeout"="2000"

I tried to do the registry change and all I can see is" Waittokillservicetomeout RG SZ 20000 (not 2000) Am I supposed to change that to 2000? How is that done? I might have mistakenly created a new file under the control heading. It's is called New Key #1. Is that sound right to you? Should I delete it? Or is that OK to leave it? Thanks for the help again.

 

[ilikefree]

Yes delete the key you made
You can change the value of the key by right clicking on Waittokillservicetomeout and click modify
Change the value to 2000
2000 might be a bit quick as they are thousandth of a second and that would be 2 second shut down but you can always change it again

EDIT: Kerish Doctor recommends only changing it to 10000

 

[Lexicat]

Yes delete the key you made
You can change the value of the key by right clicking on Waittokillservicetomeout and click modify
Change the value to 2000
2000 might be a bit quick as they are thousandth of a second and that would be 2 second shut down but you can always change it again

EDIT: Kerish Doctor recommends only changing it to 10000

Sorry I haven't responded in a while, too busy I guess. Anyway, trying to change key value and this is what I have created. Not sure where the Waittokillservicetimeout is, or is that it on right side of screen that says default?

 

[Lexicat]

Here is picture. Didn't get loaded in reply.

 

[ilikefree]

The key is in the following registry entry

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control]


Your picture is HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE

 

[Lexicat]

The key is in the following registry entry

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control]




Your picture is HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE

No, actually it is but it just doesn't show up for some reason. I went from Local Machine to System to Current Control Set to Control and there is no WaitToKillServiceTimeout under the Control heading.

 

[ilikefree]

You need to click on the Control word not the small arrow/triangle and WaitToKillServiceTimeout will show on the right.
Right click the entry and click modify

There is also a setting in msconfig we can change but I have to go out now so will show you it later.

 

[Lexicat]

You need to click on the Control word not the small arrow/triangle and WaitToKillServiceTimeout will show on the right.
Right click the entry and click modify

There is also a setting in msconfig we can change but I have to go out now so will show you it later.

OK got that done. I set it to 10000. What exactly does that do to the computer? Just curious. I wish I knew more about computers and how they function. Thanks again for the assistance.

 

[ilikefree]

That is a millisecond value and means your computer will now wait 10 seconds before shutting down.
It determines how long the system waits for services to stop after notifying the service that the system is shutting down.
This entry is used only when the user issues a shut-down command by clicking the Shut Down button.

 

[ilikefree]

OK Press Windows Key and R.
Type msconfig press enter
Click Boot
Click Advanced Options
Tick Number Of Processors
(Drop down box becomes active now)
Click down arrow/triangle and select the highest number that you see there.
Tick Maximum Memory
Click OK (little box will close)
Click Make All Boot Settings Permanent
Click Apply
Click Yes (in warning box that opens)
Click OK.
This will make your computer use all available resources to boot with and should speed up the boot process.
The first boot after doing this I have found has been slower as things get set but after that it has been quicker.