Windows Mail problems

How to Fix Most Problems with Vista Windows Mail

information   Information
Windows Mail is a new version of Outlook Express with a new name for Vista. Windows Mail only supports POP3 and IMAP E-mail accounts not Web Site based accounts (EX: Hotmail or Yahoo) unless they are the paid versions with the POP3 option. Below are some solutions to the most common issues. For more information, see: www.oehelp.com/
Tip   Tip
For a list of error code numbers and their description for Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail, see: Microsoft Help and Support: Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail error codes





PROBLEM ONE
How to Remove a Stuck Undeletable Message in Windows Mail


information   Information
Do the section below for the folder that you have the stuck undeletable message in to remove it. The To Reset Windows Mail section will get rid of a stuck message in any folder.
Note   Note
This is the usual error message that you will get:

Unknown error has occurred, Windows Mail encountered an unexpected problem while displaying this message. Check your computer for low memory or low disk space and try again.




First
Antivirus and other Security Programs with Windows Mail
Note   Note
1. Make sure your antivirus or any other security programs have all of their email scanning options turned off. The emailscaning option is a redundant feature.​
NOTE: These scanning options can corrupt Windows Mail entire message folder, or the entire message store, when it attempts to remove a message it thinks contains a potential virus. You will still be protected against infection with the antivirus program's system protection. These email scans can also cause problems with opening attachments in Windows Mail to.​
2. Check the program's website for a update and install it, then install the KB941090 Update in the SECOND section below to.​
3. If step 2 does not help, then you may need to uninstall the program completely until they have a update that will allow it to work properly with Windows Mail.​
NOTE: Older versions of Norton, McAfee, and Trend may need to be uninstalled. They have had problems working properly with Windows Mail, and simply turning off the email scanning options will not always be sufficient. If Norton does not uninstall cleanly, then you will need to use the Norton Removal Tool. If McAfee does not uninstall cleanly, then you will need to use the MCPR Removal Tool (step 2 at link).​
4. If this still does not help, then your email account has been corrupted.​
A) Delete your current email account. (Click on Tools, Accounts in Windows Mail)​
WARNING: Be sure to backup (Export) any email messages you want to keep. See this tutorial for how: How to Backup and Restore Messages in Windows Mail
B) Close and reopen Windows Mail.​
C) Add the email account again. (Click Tools, Accounts, Add, E-mail)​

5. Some Free Alternative Antivirus Programs:
NOTE: These work with Vista 32 bit (x86) or 64 bit (x64) with no problems, but will need to have their email scanning options turned off as well.
(Do a Custom install and do not install the email scanning option.)​
(Do a Custom install and do not install the email scanning option.)​



Second
How to Remove a Stuck Message in All Mailbox Folders
Note   Note

  • The KB941090 Update will work on all Windows Mail mailbox folders for removing a stuck undeletable message. I would recommend to install it first instead of doing the manual solutions below.
  • The KB941090 Update is already included in Vista SP1 and SP2.
  • If you are unable to install the KB941090 update from steps 2A or 2B, then you can try the Workaround in the link in the Note for step 3 below or try manually deleting the message(s) using the Manual section below.
warning   Warning
The KB941090 update will just fix this for now. To help prevent this from happening again, read the First section above.
1. Close Windows Mail if open.​
2. Download the Microsoft Help and Support: KB941090 Update Download Package for your 32 bit (x86) or 64 bit (x64) version of Vista.​
NOTE: To see what bit version you have of Vista, open the Control Panel (Classic View) and click the System icon, or right click Computer in the Start Menu and click Properties. You will see the bit version under the System type section.

3. Install it.​
NOTE: If you get the The update does not apply to your system message (See screenshot below), then check to make sure that you downloaded the correct 32 bit or 64 bit version for your computer. If you have the correct version, then you already have it installed since the Vista SP1 and SP2 does include this update in it. You can try the Manual methods below, or the Workaround section in the link Microsoft Help and Support: KB941090 to fix this problem.​
Update.jpg

4. Reopen Windows Mail and check to see if the stuck message is gone, or that it can be deleted now.​
NOTE: If you still cannot delete them, then restart the computer and try again.​
How to Remove a Stuck Message in the Deleted Items Folder Manually :
NOTE: This sometimes may slowly delete them one by one in the Deleted Items.
OPTION ONE:
1. Click on another folder other than the Deleted Items folder.​
2. Right click Deleted Items folder or click Edit at top.​
3. Click Empty 'Deleted Items' folder.​
4. Click Yes for confirmation prompt.​
5. Repeat until the messages are all gone.​

OPTION TWO:
1. Click on Deleted Items folder to open it.​
2. Click on a message to delete and click on the red X icon on the toolbar.​
NOTE: You can repeat this one by one for each message you want deleted, or press Ctrl+A, or clicking on Edit - Select All, and click the red X to select and delete all messages.​

How to Remove a Stuck Message in the Junk E-mail Folder Manually :
NOTE: This sometimes may slowly delete them one by one in the Junk E-mail folder.
OPTION ONE:
1. Click on another folder other than the Junk E-mail folder.​
2. Right click Junk E-mail folder.​
3. Click Empty 'Junk E-mail' folder.​
4. Click Yes for confirmation prompt.​
5. Repeat until the messages are all gone.​
6. You should now be able to delete them in the Deleted Items folder.​

OPTION TWO:
1. Click on Junk E-mail folder to open it.​
2. Click on a message to delete and click on the red X icon on the toolbar.​
NOTE: You can repeat this one by one for each message you want deleted, or press Ctrl+A, or clicking on Edit - Select All, and click the red X to select and delete all messages.​





Third
Compact and Repair the Windows Mail Database
NOTE: WMUtil is a small utility to allow users to compact and repair the Windows Mail database in Windows Vista.
The Windows Mail database periodically needs compacting and defragmenting to function with maximal performance. Currently there is no manual method to compact the database in Windows Mail, unless one tinkers with the values set at Tools | Options | Advanced | Maintenance. WMUtil allows the user to manually compact the database to remove any wasted space from it.
Occasionally the database becomes corrupted as indicated for example by the inability of being able to delete messages from various folders. The Windows Mail database has a built-in repair feature that can sometimes fix such problems. Windows Mail provides no access to this feature, so clicking on the Repair button will manually run the repair feature on the database. Clicking on the Clear Outbox button will remove references in the database to phantom outbox messages.​
1. Download and install WMutil, then just follow that site's instructions step by step for the "program operation".​




Fourth
Check Email at Online Access
NOTE: Sometimes a email will get stuck at your email provider's online website access where you can alternatively access your email other than from your computer.​
1. Log in to you online email access for the account that you have in Windows Mail that has a stuck message.​
2. See if you can resend or delete the stuck message here.​




Fifth
Alternatives to Windows Mail
NOTE: If you are not comfortable doing the steps in this tutorial, continue to have problems with Windows Mail even after this, or just tired of messing with Windows Mail, then I would recommend for you to switch (upgrade) to the free:​
Windows Live Mail :
To Read About It see:
NOTE: It supports Pop3, IMAP, HTTP website (EX: Hotmail) email, and is a lot more stable. Plus, WLM will minimize to a tray bar icon, checks spelling as you type messages, and has a separate Inbox for each email account. WLM will automatically import Windows Mail messages, accounts, and settings into it. Contacts will have to be manually imported from within WLM. (Tools, Contacts, File, Import, Address book for current Windows User.) To see the Menu bar, press ALT+M and check "Show all menus".
For 32 bit and 64 bit Vista: Windows Live Suite Downloads
OR





PROBLEM TWO
How to Backup and Reset Windows Mail


Note   Note
This fixes all mailbox folders, message, or account corruption problems in Windows Mail. Contacts will not be affected.


warning   Warning
If you have created any stationery, then you will need to back it up and add it back manually later. Windows Mails stores stationery by default at: C:\Users\(User Name)\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Stationery unless you have manually saved it somewhere else. This is a hidden System file location. For how to see it, see OPTION TWO here: How to Hide or Show Hidden Files and Folders in Vista . You can see more about stationery here: How to Use and Create Stationery in Windows Mail




Option One
To Backup Your Email Messages to Restore Later
NOTE: If you do not have or want any email messages to be backed up, then skip this part. You will lose all messages not backed up. To restore, see step 13 in the OPTION FOUR section below.



Option Two
To Backup Your Email Account(s) to Restore Later
NOTE: If you do not want to back up your account(s) or it is corrupted, then skip this part. You will lose all accounts not backed up. To restore, see step 12 in the OPTION FOUR section below.
1. Create a new folder named Accounts in C:\Users\(username)\Documents.​
2. Open Folder Options and click View tab.​
NOTE: Folder Options is in Control Panel (click Classic View) or Tools menu in a Explorer window.
A) Check Show Hidden files and folders.​
B) Uncheck Hide extensions for known file types.​
C) Click on OK to apply and close Folder Options.​

3. Go to:​

Code:
C:\Users\(username)\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Local Folders
4. In Local Folders, right click the account{whatever #'s}.oeaccount file and click on Copy.​
5. Go to C:\Users\(username)\Documents\Accounts and right click on a empty area and click Paste.​
NOTE: If you have multiple accounts, repeat steps 4 to 5 for each account.
6. Close both windows.​
NOTE: Your email account information is now backed up in:

Code:
C:\Users\(username)\Documents\Accounts



Option Three
To Backup Windows Mail Settings to Restore Later
NOTE: These settings are stored in the registry. To restore, see step 14 in the OPTION FOUR section below.​
1. Open the Start Menu.​
2. In the white line (Start Search) area, type regedit and press Enter.​
3. If prompted, click on Continue in the UAC prompt.​
4. In regedit, go to: (See screenshot below)​

Code:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Mail
5. To Backup All Of Windows Mail Settings -
WARNING: If your Windows Mail is corrupted or not working properly, then skip backing this up. Only backup the individual ONLY backups (steps 6, 7, or 8) instead.​
NOTE: If you do this step, then skip steps 6, 7, and 8. They are all included in this one.​
A) In the left pane, right click on Windows Mail and click on Export.​
B) Go to step 9.​

6. To Only Backup Junk Mail Settings -
NOTE: This includes your Safe and Block Senders Lists.​
A) In the left pane, right click on Junk Mail and click on Export.​
B) Go to step 9.​

7. To Only Backup Message Rules Settings -
A) In the left pane, right click on Rules and click on Export.​
B) Go to step 9.​

8. To Only Backup Signatures -
A) In the left pane, right click on signatures and click on Export.​
B) Go to step 9.​
Windows_Mail_Settings.jpg

9. Type in a name, Windows Mail Settings as an example, and Save the .reg file to the Desktop.​
NOTE: This Windows Mail Settings.reg file is your backup.​
10. Repeat steps 6 to 9 for doing individual backups only.​
NOTE: If you did step 5, then you do not need to do steps 6 to 8. They are all included in step 5.​



Option Four
To Reset Windows Mail
NOTE: If you are just restoring your Windows Mail settings and messages to a new Vista install or user account, then you can skip the Reset part and go to step 12 below to restore from the backups above.
1. Close Windows Mail if open.​
2. Press Ctrl + Shift + Esc keys together to open Task manager.​
3. Click on the Processes tab. (See screenshot below)​
Task_Manager.jpg

4. If WinMail.exe is listed, then: (See screenshot above)​
NOTE: If WinMail.exe is not listed, then close Task Manager and go to step 5.
A) Click on WinMail.exe to highlight it and click End Process button.​
NOTE: If you have more than one WinMail.exe listed, then repeat this for each one.​
B) Click on End process button for the confirmation prompt. (See screenshot below)​
C) Close Task Manager.​
Confirmation.jpg

5. Open the Start Menu.​
A) In the white line (Start Search) area, type regedit and press Enter.​
B) Click on the Continue button in the UAC prompt.​
C) In regedit, go to: (See screenshot below)​


Code:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Mail
D) In the left pane, right click on Windows Mail and click on Delete.​
Windows_Mail_Reg.jpg
E) Click on Yes to confirm the deletion. (See screenshot below)​
F) Close Regedit.​
Confirm_Delete.jpg

6. Open Folder Options and click on the View tab. (See screenshot below)​
NOTE: Folder Options is in Control Panel (click Classic View) or Tools menu in a Explorer window.
A) Check (dot) Show hidden files and folders.​
B) Uncheck Hide extensions for known file types.​
C) Click on OK to apply and close Folder Options.​
Folder_Options.jpg

7. Open a Windows Explorer window and go to the folder: (See screenshot below)​

Code:
C:\Users\(username)\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail
8. Open the Windows Mail folder and Delete all the contents (files and folders) inside the folder. (See screenshot below)​
WARNING: Do not delete the Windows Mail folder itself.​
Delete_All.jpg

9. Close this window.​
10. Restart the computer.​
11. When Vista is done restarting, open Windows Mail and then close Windows Mail again when it is finished opening.​
NOTE: This, steps 10 and 11, will now rebuild Windows Mail and it's registry settings to a clean state.
12. To Restore Your Account(s) Back
NOTE: If you skipped backing up your account(s) in Option Two above, then see * below.
A) Close Windows Mail if still open.​
B) Go to:​


Code:
C:\Users\(username)\Documents\Accounts
C) Right click the account{whatever #'s}.oeaccount file and click Copy.​
D) Go to:​


Code:
C:\Users\(username)\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Local Folders
E) In Local Folders, right click on a empty area and click Paste.​
NOTE: Repeat steps B to D if you have multiple accounts for each account{whatever #'s}.oeaccount file.

* If you skipped backing up your account, then:
  • Click on Tools in the main Windows Mail screen.
  • Click on Accounts
  • Click on Add
  • Choose E-mail
  • Enter your email account information from your email provider.
13. To Restore Your E-mail Messages Back
NOTE: If you skipped backing up your messages above, then skip this step your messages have been deleted.

14. To Restore the Windows Mail Settings Back
A) Right click on the Windows Mail Settings.reg backup file (on Desktop) and click Merge.​
NOTE: If you backed up a individual setting, then do the same for it's .reg file.​
B) Click on the Run button for Security Warning pop-up.​
C) Click on Continue (UAC), Yes, and then OK when prompted.​

15. Open Windows Mail.​
16. Verify everything is working and copied over ok, then delete the backups if you like.​

I hope this helps everyone,
Shawn





 

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The tutorial on the first page of this thread. :)
 

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PLEASE HELP!!
I have Vista 32bit system. I am using the Windows Mail that came with my laptop. I haven't had any problems with it until recently... Whenever I open a message, either to type or just read (&/or highlight to copy), the program automatically minimizes the message and takes me off the screen. I can only get a couple of letters typed, IF that, before it takes me off the message and minimizes it on it's own. Same as when I open a message to read and retrieve info and/or attachments, it minimizes. It's been doing this on and off for the past week, until 3 days ago when it started to do it all the time. I don't know what I can do about this? I use this account for my business and can't lose any of the emails I have in my folders.
I'd really appreciate any help with this problem please.
Thanks so much
 

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Hello LuvBnMomy, and welcome to Vista Forums. :)

Have you already gone through the troubleshooting steps in the tutorial to see if any may help?
 

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Hello LuvBnMomy, and welcome to Vista Forums. :)

Have you already gone through the troubleshooting steps in the tutorial to see if any may help?


Thanks for getting back to me, and so quickly too! :) Yes, I have gone through that entire page and done everything I could. Though I do have SP2 installed on my computer, I tried to download/install the KB941090 Update as suggested, but was given an error message stating that it wasn't able to generate the code for me. I look so forward to hearing from you again.
 

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Since this only started recently, you might see if doing a system restore using a restore point (if available) dated before this started may be able to help.
 

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Can't back up my Windows Mail in safe mode using Option 1

Hi

I am struggling to extract my Windows Mail Inbox and Sent messages following a PC crash that currently only permits use of Windows Vista in safe mode until I get it sorted out.

Via Google I came across Brink's tutorial on backing up Windows Mail way back in this thread and tried Option 1 using the Export function and an empty file to receive the data on a USB stick. All fine until I get to the window 'Location of Messages' whose browse button brings nothing up in the folder window and does nothing when I type in the correct file location.

Am I doing something wrong or is there a problem with my Windows Mail, even in safe mode?

Any suggestions gratefully received.
 

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Hello Peter, and welcome to Vista Forums. :)

Silly question I know, but are you currently logged in to your user account while in Safe Mode?
 

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Hello Peter, and welcome to Vista Forums. :)

Silly question I know, but are you currently logged in to your user account while in Safe Mode?

Not a silly question. I am not logged on. Can't see how I log on when already in safe mode. Previously when trying to resolve failure to start up I clicked an option that required logging on but after several attempts with my own user name and also as Administrator it locked me out. Haven't needed the password since computer installed in 2007. Thought I knew it but obviously have forgotten and not written down anywhere as far as I can see.
 

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You should be able to log out as usual, but while in Safe Mode. You would then be able to select to log in to your user account and still be in Safe Mode.
 

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It appears that Windows Live Mail is no longer available. It cannot be found at any of the links in this entire thread. Maybe the tutorial should be updated to mention that.

Also, I've scanned every page but didn't find the answer to my question. I'm attempting a reset of Windows Mail. Will all the emails be imported as unread? I have thousands of emails to import in several folders. Some of them are read and some unread. I'd like to keep them marked as such.
 
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Thanks Brink. That's going to be a "last resort".


Also, I just did a test of an import. I imported a folder that had both read and unread emails in it. They all imported as read. I guess I'll have to go through all my folders and create new "Unread" folders for the unread emails before doing the export. Then when I reset and do the import, I can manually mark them as read and move them into the appropriate folders before deleting the interim folders. Can you think of a better or faster way of doing this? This might take a couple of days.

EDIT: All flags and Watched markings are also gone. I'll need folders for those too.
 

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PLEASE HELP!?

The instructions were perfect, but they didn't give me the results I wanted. I had exported the messages to a temporary directory and then managed the folders so that I could get them the way I wanted. I even separated my read and unread messages into folders so that when I imported them, I could mark them as unread again and move them to the proper folder. Because I was also importing the WINMAIL.FOL files, Windows Mail was remembering some of the folder settings and moving the emails back.

What I ended up doing to get what I wanted was to Reset Windows Mail again. Then I manually created all of the folders in Windows Mail and dragged all of the messages a folder at a time into the proper folder.

Here's the problem. Now that I have my messagaes where I want them, when I try to change Options or Create a message, Windows Mail closes down without an error message at all. This is my fourth day on this and now that I've corrected one thing, another fails. Please help.

I'm trying to avoid Windows Live Mail because it forces you to have an Inbox for each email account. I like my one Inbox and want to keep it.
 

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As the very first commenter noted, if you add folders (like I do) you have to create a folder in one of the accounts to move the messages to. It seems you've stopped helping people with Windows Mail and opted to only get them on Live Mail.

BTW, my text signatures did not stay with the reset.
 

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I just try to get people off of Window Mail since it's a dead buggy unsupported email client, but you can use whatever email client program you like best. I just have more experience with the free Windows Live Mail, and prefer Outlook.
 

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I may have merged my .reg file too early. I just re-merged it and it appears Windows Mail is working normally again. It no longer crashes and I can edit the options. The only thing missing with the way I did it is that the emails I dragged into place don't tell me from which account they came. I can live with that. Now I can move on to other problems like my latest BSOD, why the Boot Partition suddenly becomes invalid, and why it only boots up half-way sometimes.
 

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Great news Andy. :)
 

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