Windows Defender

markeydsl

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After the vista update last night Defender has appeared in the notification area of my toolbar with a yellow triangle and an exclamation point. when I click on it to resolve what ever the issue is it tells me that defender needs to be updated, also in checking the Security center, if also indicates that defender is out of date. when I try to as it to update or look for an update I am told that it is up to date however nothing changes. I still have the defender notification on my tool bar, and the security center still tells me that it is out of date.

any ideas how to deal with this?:mad:
 

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    H/P dv7 Notebook PC
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    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5800 @ 2.00GHz
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    Compal ID 30F4 Version 99.67
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    4.096
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I also have the same issue with Windows Defender, for the first time starting yesterday defender has an exclamation mark asking to check for updates. Upon checking for updates , no new updates found. Also after running a scan and rebooting, Windows Defender is still on the task bar with the exclamation mark again asking to be updated. This seems to be some sort of problem as it has never done this before.
 

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    HP Media Centre PC m8400f
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    AMD Phenom 9500 Quad Core Processor
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    AMD Phenom
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    3.00 GB
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    NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT
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    Realtek High Definition Audio
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    Generic PnP Monitor
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    1024 x 768
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    ST336032 OAS SCSI Disk Device x 2
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    600 watt
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    HP
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    HP 5189
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    Broadband
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    DVD/CD-ROM Drive- TSSTcorp CDDVDW TS-H653N CdRom Device 1T Media Drive Logitech 400w sound system
Same problem butnow, in addition to WD with !, my wirelss card is orange, I bought a nw one, the wires look like one time use, I got the driver after buying Driver Detective just now I have fixed other problems in Xp with DD so,,,suggestions on waking up my broadcom wireless card, is there a need to update the BIOS?

I need help, thank goodness for old cat 5>

Rick
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All three of you with issues need to go to the windows Defender site and download a manual update - that should fix it up.
 

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    Windows 10 Pro X64 Insider Preview (Skip Ahead) latest build
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    Intel Core i7 965 EE @ 3.6 GHz
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    eVGA X58 Classified 3 (141-GT-E770-A1)
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    3 * Mushkin 998981 Redline Enhanced triple channel DDR3 4 GB CL7 DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3-12800)
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    Sabayon Linux (current, weekly updates, 5.1.x kernel)
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Hi all,

First time to this site and I enjoy it throughly.

I had a similar problem with windows 98 and Norton Antivirus. The solution, in that case was very simple. I had to correct the date and time that shows in the lower lright corner of the computer monitor.
 

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    Dell XPS420
    Memory
    6 gig
    Graphics card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD3650 256 MB
    Sound Card
    Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell SP2009W 20 inch Flat Panel w Webcam
    Hard Drives
    640 gb
    Cooling
    Fan
    Mouse
    Dell USB 4 button optical
    Keyboard
    Dell USB
    Other Info
    DSL provided by ATT
I am having similar probs with Defender showing that updates are required. However in my case there is an error code 0x80244019. This appears to be a virus/trojan (don't worry - I am using my laptop at present and it is all clear!) and whenever I try to update it will not let me contact the website (This is for all M/S updates). I use Kaspersky Internet Security and originally I was prevented from getting their updates but they advised me how to get around that and it is now back up to date. Despite having scanned the PC with Kaspersky, Spybot S&D and Adaware it appears to be firmly esconced in my machine. I am currently running a full scan with the latest version of M/S Malacious Software Tool - downloaded via the laptop to a memory stick then plugged into the PC - this being the only way that I could access it. It has been running for well over 1 hour and still has a long way to go. When the scan is complete I will come back and report the outcome. Meanwhile I would appreciate any suggestions in case the scan does not do the trick.
 
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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    AC Stealth Computers Ltd
    CPU
    Intel Core2 6700 2.66Ghz
    Motherboard
    ACPI x86-based PC
    Memory
    1 Gb
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce 7600 GS
    Sound Card
    Realtek AC '97 Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Chimei 22" W/S LCD
    Screen Resolution
    1360 x 768
    Hard Drives
    2 x Samsung HD400LD USB & 500Gb SATA
    Case
    Shuttle Midi Tower
    Cooling
    ACPI Fan - ACPI Thermal Zone
    Mouse
    M/S Intellimouse Explorer 2
    Keyboard
    M/S Laser 6000 V2.0
    Internet Speed
    2 Gb
    Other Info
    This info is in regard to my PC. I am currently using a Toshiba Satellite L300D-13R to contact you as I strongly suspect that the PC is infected with a Trojan that is preventing me accessing M/S updates in general and Windows Defender in particular. I run Kaspersky Internet Security which was also attacked originally but I contacted Kaspersky and they advised how to get around the problem to d/l
I am having similar probs with Defender showing that updates are required. However in my case there is an error code 0x80244019. This appears to be a virus/trojan (don't worry - I am using my laptop at present and it is all clear!) and whenever I try to update it will not let me contact the website (This is for all M/S updates). I use Kaspersky Internet Security and originally I was prevented from getting their updates but they advised me how to get around that and it is now back up to date. Despite having scanned the PC with Kaspersky, Spybot S&D and Adaware it appears to be firmly esconced in my machine. I am currently running a full scan with the latest version of M/S Malacious Software Tool - downloaded via the laptop to a memory stick then plugged into the PC - this being the only way that I could access it. It has been running for well over 1 hour and still has a long way to go. When the scan is complete I will come back and report the outcome. Meanwhile I would appreciate any suggestions in case the scan does not do the trick.


You might also try Malwarebytes. And if you wanted to, you could temp. disable Kaspersky and try Avast Home. You can run a boot time scan with it. It's free and works well. And if you can find the virus and the name of it, please post it as we might be able to suggest further action.


Malwarebytes.org
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Airbot 2.0
    CPU
    Core i7 920 (D0) @ 4Ghz, 26c idle- 65c full load on air
    Motherboard
    Asus P6X58D Premium -Sata 6Gb/s - USB 3.0
    Memory
    12GB Corsair Dominator -CMD12GX3M6A1600C8
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA Nvidia GTX 480 -Fermi
    Sound Card
    ASUS Xonar D2X
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 24" Flatron W2453V-PF Full HD 1080p 2ms response time
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080@60hz
    Hard Drives
    1 OCZ Vertex2 180GB SSD 1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 7200RPM 32MB cache 2 500GB WD Caviar Blacks 7200RPM 32MB cache (WD5001AALS) Pioneer DVD Burner DVR-S18M
    PSU
    Corsair HX1000W
    Case
    Cooler Master HAF 932
    Cooling
    Case Fans -3 230mm, 1 140mm/CPU - Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless MK700
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless MK700
    Internet Speed
    100 MBPS DL 30.17Mbps UL 0.98Mbps
    Other Info
    Windows 7 Processor-7.7 RAM- 7.9 Graphics-7.9 Gaming Graphics- 7.9 HDD- 7.8 W.E.I final score= 7.7 Windows Vista=5.9
Scanned with M/S mal software tool (took best part of 24 hours!) :sick: Nothing came up. Have been playing around with PC to see what happens. Tried to install "One Care" to see if this would produce anything. Two things of note. Something is informing me that mt PC is infected and trying to force me to download a program called "Wingard" (or similar - I close it down before it can get a hold) and I am getting another error message telling me that "c:\windows\system32\drivers\fidbox.dat is corrupt and unreadable. Please run chkdsk utility" - This is in ref to the OC setup.:mad:

I wiil leave it at that for now while I try to intall Malwarebytes.

Ian
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    AC Stealth Computers Ltd
    CPU
    Intel Core2 6700 2.66Ghz
    Motherboard
    ACPI x86-based PC
    Memory
    1 Gb
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce 7600 GS
    Sound Card
    Realtek AC '97 Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Chimei 22" W/S LCD
    Screen Resolution
    1360 x 768
    Hard Drives
    2 x Samsung HD400LD USB & 500Gb SATA
    Case
    Shuttle Midi Tower
    Cooling
    ACPI Fan - ACPI Thermal Zone
    Mouse
    M/S Intellimouse Explorer 2
    Keyboard
    M/S Laser 6000 V2.0
    Internet Speed
    2 Gb
    Other Info
    This info is in regard to my PC. I am currently using a Toshiba Satellite L300D-13R to contact you as I strongly suspect that the PC is infected with a Trojan that is preventing me accessing M/S updates in general and Windows Defender in particular. I run Kaspersky Internet Security which was also attacked originally but I contacted Kaspersky and they advised how to get around the problem to d/l
Yes, it sounds like you have something like Vundo/virtumonde variant or that itself. There is an earlier thread that SIW2 suggests an iso file rescue disk from Kaspersky. You can read this thread and follow his suggestion as well.


Try running this as well to see if you have vundo, though Malwarebytes should pick up something.

VundoFix by Atribune

The other thread.

http://www.vistax64.com/system-security/201791-trojan-zlob-g.html


The MSRT shouldn't have taken 24 hours :confused: Do you have a terabyte HDD or something?
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Airbot 2.0
    CPU
    Core i7 920 (D0) @ 4Ghz, 26c idle- 65c full load on air
    Motherboard
    Asus P6X58D Premium -Sata 6Gb/s - USB 3.0
    Memory
    12GB Corsair Dominator -CMD12GX3M6A1600C8
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA Nvidia GTX 480 -Fermi
    Sound Card
    ASUS Xonar D2X
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 24" Flatron W2453V-PF Full HD 1080p 2ms response time
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080@60hz
    Hard Drives
    1 OCZ Vertex2 180GB SSD 1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 7200RPM 32MB cache 2 500GB WD Caviar Blacks 7200RPM 32MB cache (WD5001AALS) Pioneer DVD Burner DVR-S18M
    PSU
    Corsair HX1000W
    Case
    Cooler Master HAF 932
    Cooling
    Case Fans -3 230mm, 1 140mm/CPU - Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless MK700
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless MK700
    Internet Speed
    100 MBPS DL 30.17Mbps UL 0.98Mbps
    Other Info
    Windows 7 Processor-7.7 RAM- 7.9 Graphics-7.9 Gaming Graphics- 7.9 HDD- 7.8 W.E.I final score= 7.7 Windows Vista=5.9
I also have problems with Defender. If you have a wellknown antivirus program you can inactivate Defender and activate it once a week if you want to scan your computer. Dont forget to Win Update before you scan just to have the latest update .My antivirus program is F-secure and I have run my computer a couple of months in this way and the stability of the computer have increase to 9,5
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 210
Re HDD

I have 2 x 400 Gb & 1 X 500Gb!
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    AC Stealth Computers Ltd
    CPU
    Intel Core2 6700 2.66Ghz
    Motherboard
    ACPI x86-based PC
    Memory
    1 Gb
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce 7600 GS
    Sound Card
    Realtek AC '97 Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Chimei 22" W/S LCD
    Screen Resolution
    1360 x 768
    Hard Drives
    2 x Samsung HD400LD USB & 500Gb SATA
    Case
    Shuttle Midi Tower
    Cooling
    ACPI Fan - ACPI Thermal Zone
    Mouse
    M/S Intellimouse Explorer 2
    Keyboard
    M/S Laser 6000 V2.0
    Internet Speed
    2 Gb
    Other Info
    This info is in regard to my PC. I am currently using a Toshiba Satellite L300D-13R to contact you as I strongly suspect that the PC is infected with a Trojan that is preventing me accessing M/S updates in general and Windows Defender in particular. I run Kaspersky Internet Security which was also attacked originally but I contacted Kaspersky and they advised how to get around the problem to d/l

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Airbot 2.0
    CPU
    Core i7 920 (D0) @ 4Ghz, 26c idle- 65c full load on air
    Motherboard
    Asus P6X58D Premium -Sata 6Gb/s - USB 3.0
    Memory
    12GB Corsair Dominator -CMD12GX3M6A1600C8
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA Nvidia GTX 480 -Fermi
    Sound Card
    ASUS Xonar D2X
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 24" Flatron W2453V-PF Full HD 1080p 2ms response time
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080@60hz
    Hard Drives
    1 OCZ Vertex2 180GB SSD 1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 7200RPM 32MB cache 2 500GB WD Caviar Blacks 7200RPM 32MB cache (WD5001AALS) Pioneer DVD Burner DVR-S18M
    PSU
    Corsair HX1000W
    Case
    Cooler Master HAF 932
    Cooling
    Case Fans -3 230mm, 1 140mm/CPU - Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless MK700
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless MK700
    Internet Speed
    100 MBPS DL 30.17Mbps UL 0.98Mbps
    Other Info
    Windows 7 Processor-7.7 RAM- 7.9 Graphics-7.9 Gaming Graphics- 7.9 HDD- 7.8 W.E.I final score= 7.7 Windows Vista=5.9
Have now scanned with VundoFix. It tells me my PC is fine yet I still cannot contact MS for any updates and if I try to contact any security suppliers website I am blocked from doing so. The bogus AV tried to download again this am and before I stopped it I saw that it was called WINIGARD.

I am now going to download AVAST etc and try them. Unfortunately I am going to be away for 3 days or so from to-night so I will report back at the weekend.

Meanwhile thanks to all for your suggestions - any more would be welcome!
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    AC Stealth Computers Ltd
    CPU
    Intel Core2 6700 2.66Ghz
    Motherboard
    ACPI x86-based PC
    Memory
    1 Gb
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce 7600 GS
    Sound Card
    Realtek AC '97 Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Chimei 22" W/S LCD
    Screen Resolution
    1360 x 768
    Hard Drives
    2 x Samsung HD400LD USB & 500Gb SATA
    Case
    Shuttle Midi Tower
    Cooling
    ACPI Fan - ACPI Thermal Zone
    Mouse
    M/S Intellimouse Explorer 2
    Keyboard
    M/S Laser 6000 V2.0
    Internet Speed
    2 Gb
    Other Info
    This info is in regard to my PC. I am currently using a Toshiba Satellite L300D-13R to contact you as I strongly suspect that the PC is infected with a Trojan that is preventing me accessing M/S updates in general and Windows Defender in particular. I run Kaspersky Internet Security which was also attacked originally but I contacted Kaspersky and they advised how to get around the problem to d/l
Hello
I have find at F-secure webbsite a file which you can download to remove Vundo.
Type Vundo and search on this website. I think I have been able to remove the trojan
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 210
Thanks LasseB

Will look into that when I return from my trip to the frozen North (of England, that is).
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    AC Stealth Computers Ltd
    CPU
    Intel Core2 6700 2.66Ghz
    Motherboard
    ACPI x86-based PC
    Memory
    1 Gb
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce 7600 GS
    Sound Card
    Realtek AC '97 Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Chimei 22" W/S LCD
    Screen Resolution
    1360 x 768
    Hard Drives
    2 x Samsung HD400LD USB & 500Gb SATA
    Case
    Shuttle Midi Tower
    Cooling
    ACPI Fan - ACPI Thermal Zone
    Mouse
    M/S Intellimouse Explorer 2
    Keyboard
    M/S Laser 6000 V2.0
    Internet Speed
    2 Gb
    Other Info
    This info is in regard to my PC. I am currently using a Toshiba Satellite L300D-13R to contact you as I strongly suspect that the PC is infected with a Trojan that is preventing me accessing M/S updates in general and Windows Defender in particular. I run Kaspersky Internet Security which was also attacked originally but I contacted Kaspersky and they advised how to get around the problem to d/l
Hi All,
I am now back in circulation. Subsequent to my last post I started getting error messages indicating that I had a number of problems with corrupt files and that I should run chkdsk. Again whatever I had on my PC would not allow this. However this am I downloaded malwarebytes to a mem stick via the laptop, got it on the PC, did just a Quick Scan, picked up about 6 probs, rebooted, the PC automatically ran chkdsk on reboot and I can now download all my updates.

Obviously this is early days to breathe too big a sigh of relief but should I have further probs I will let you know. Meanwhile thanks to you all for your help and input.

WilWiz
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    AC Stealth Computers Ltd
    CPU
    Intel Core2 6700 2.66Ghz
    Motherboard
    ACPI x86-based PC
    Memory
    1 Gb
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce 7600 GS
    Sound Card
    Realtek AC '97 Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Chimei 22" W/S LCD
    Screen Resolution
    1360 x 768
    Hard Drives
    2 x Samsung HD400LD USB & 500Gb SATA
    Case
    Shuttle Midi Tower
    Cooling
    ACPI Fan - ACPI Thermal Zone
    Mouse
    M/S Intellimouse Explorer 2
    Keyboard
    M/S Laser 6000 V2.0
    Internet Speed
    2 Gb
    Other Info
    This info is in regard to my PC. I am currently using a Toshiba Satellite L300D-13R to contact you as I strongly suspect that the PC is infected with a Trojan that is preventing me accessing M/S updates in general and Windows Defender in particular. I run Kaspersky Internet Security which was also attacked originally but I contacted Kaspersky and they advised how to get around the problem to d/l
Glad you got your problems solved wilwiz. :)
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Airbot 2.0
    CPU
    Core i7 920 (D0) @ 4Ghz, 26c idle- 65c full load on air
    Motherboard
    Asus P6X58D Premium -Sata 6Gb/s - USB 3.0
    Memory
    12GB Corsair Dominator -CMD12GX3M6A1600C8
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA Nvidia GTX 480 -Fermi
    Sound Card
    ASUS Xonar D2X
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 24" Flatron W2453V-PF Full HD 1080p 2ms response time
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080@60hz
    Hard Drives
    1 OCZ Vertex2 180GB SSD 1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 7200RPM 32MB cache 2 500GB WD Caviar Blacks 7200RPM 32MB cache (WD5001AALS) Pioneer DVD Burner DVR-S18M
    PSU
    Corsair HX1000W
    Case
    Cooler Master HAF 932
    Cooling
    Case Fans -3 230mm, 1 140mm/CPU - Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless MK700
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless MK700
    Internet Speed
    100 MBPS DL 30.17Mbps UL 0.98Mbps
    Other Info
    Windows 7 Processor-7.7 RAM- 7.9 Graphics-7.9 Gaming Graphics- 7.9 HDD- 7.8 W.E.I final score= 7.7 Windows Vista=5.9
I have Defender problems also. Slightly different see below:

HP PC with Windows Vista 64 bit OS Pops up window announcing "You haven't
scanned your PC in 3 Days. Recommend you schedule MS Defender to Scan
Daily". I have the following settings since (DOP) 12/20/2008 : Options:
Frequency=Daily; Time 2 AM; Type=Full Sys Scan. PC is never shut down at
night , only placed in sleep mode. What gives? Help?

Hokie 56
 

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Hi Hokie,

Looks like Defender has "forgotten " it has done a scan .

This may be because it's log files are being cleared.

Do you use some sort of cleaning utility, like Ccleaner ?

If so, check it's options to see if it is clearing Defender logs.

Hope it helps

SIW2
 

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System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Vista
    CPU
    Intel E8400
    Motherboard
    ASRock1333-GLAN R2.0
    Memory
    4gb DDR2 800
    Graphics card(s)
    nvidia 9500GT 1gb
  • Operating System
    win7/vista
    CPU
    intel i5-8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    ballistix 2x8gb 3200
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