Why, Exactly, Does Everyone "Hate" Vista?

Dzomlija

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I can't wait to hear all the arguments about how crap "Windows Seven" is and how cool and stable Vista is.
 

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vista isnt so bad. I got it when it was first released and it wasnt so great then but now it seems to be a lot better. One of the problems is that the people have rubbish computers.
 

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vista isnt so bad. I got it when it was first released and it wasnt so great then but now it seems to be a lot better. One of the problems is that the people have rubbish computers.

Ain't that true!

I purchased the the hardware I'm using now about 1 year before Vista RTM. And I haven't looked back.
 

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The big problem is not Vista itself, it's the fact that if you try and put a Vista machine onto a network running ANY other operating system there are so many unresolved problems that it's easier to dump Vista and install XP on everything instead.

Vista does weird stuff for no explanation. For example, I have a network comprising a desktop running Win2k that I use as a print server and backup storage, my own laptop that's running XP/Pro and my wife's new laptop that runs Vista Home. First problem is not being able to share files and folders between the Vista machine and the others. OK, we'll live with that and use a pen drive. The big problem we now have is that up to last week my wife could print to the printers on the W2K machine no problem, then one day the colour printer disappeared, and today the laser printer doesn't connect any more either, so she has no printing. Of course the printers are still there and work fine from the XP laptop, just not from Vista.

It's not a wireless networking problem as that's still working fine, so what the heck went wrong?????? We haven't changed any settings from when it was all working, it just decided over a 3 day period to not print any more. That's one reason why I HATE Vista right now....
 

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The big problem is not Vista itself, it's the fact that if you try and put a Vista machine onto a network running ANY other operating system there are so many unresolved problems that it's easier to dump Vista and install XP on everything instead.

Vista does weird stuff for no explanation. For example, I have a network comprising a desktop running Win2k that I use as a print server and backup storage, my own laptop that's running XP/Pro and my wife's new laptop that runs Vista Home. First problem is not being able to share files and folders between the Vista machine and the others. OK, we'll live with that and use a pen drive. The big problem we now have is that up to last week my wife could print to the printers on the W2K machine no problem, then one day the colour printer disappeared, and today the laser printer doesn't connect any more either, so she has no printing. Of course the printers are still there and work fine from the XP laptop, just not from Vista.

It's not a wireless networking problem as that's still working fine, so what the heck went wrong?????? We haven't changed any settings from when it was all working, it just decided over a 3 day period to not print any more. That's one reason why I HATE Vista right now....

Its a third party driver problem and not anything related to Vista. What happens is when XP was released back in the day, there was not as many third party hardware manufactures so driver compatibility was not a big issue, but now days almost all hardware is made for XP and not Vista.
 

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You might want to check for some updated drivers for your printers as well...

I have an HP Photosmart 2710.... I was having issues where the software would uninstall itself on Vista... the printer would work fine for weeks or months, then randomly wouldn't be available any more.

About 3 weeks ago I found that HP released a patch to stop the driver from uninstalling... not saying that's your problem... but it's something to think about.

TK.
 

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There's nothing wrong with the drivers - they're the latest versions. What REALLY bugs me is that the Vista laptop could send documents to the printers on the W2K desktop for about a month and for no apparent reason just decided to stop working. It tries to send them and after a few minutes comes back with an error message saying 'unable to print'. Very helpful...
 

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I hate Vista because I spent good cash for it and It gave me nothing but nightmares, so I had to un-install it. Now I am waiting till for SP1 so that I can reinstall and hope my Vista experience is slightly more pleasant this time.
 

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I have had no problems with vista. But I did build my own rig to run it on and make sure everything was compatable and had drivers before I bought them.

If you fail to aim then you aim to fail.
 

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I have had no problems with vista. But I did build my own rig to run it on and make sure everything was compatable and had drivers before I bought them.

If you fail to aim then you aim to fail.

Now thats the only way to build a PC!

My rig was built about 1 year before Vista RTM and was used extensively during the BETA phase of Longhorn/Vista.

Doing your homework right and making sure that your components are compatible is the single most important factor of having a sweet running Vista system.

Pity the likes of "Tiberius" and "Alias" don't see that...
 

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I don't hate Vista either. I just had bad experiences with it (Vista 64), and it did not work for me.

Not enough driver support from 3rd party so alot of my hardware was useless.
Constant driver updating - the first 6 months of Vista was like beta testing.

I went back to XP Pro and thinks are running great again. I hope to come back to Vista, I'd love to come back to Vista 64, but I need things to work. XP is a great OS, and is fast! Choking the OS with shiny transparent GUI is not a priority for me. I can disable this stuff, but XP still feels smoother for some reason.

I'll give it a go again with the SP in January 2008
 

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Doing your homework right and making sure that your components are compatible is the single most important factor of having a sweet running Vista system.

I bought a new computer from Dell about a month ago with Vista Home Premium pre-installed on it.

IMO, if I pay a company like Dell good money for such a system, they (and Microsoft) should be the ones doing the homework and not me.

Believe it or not, my friend, but the vast majority of computer buyers are not computer experts who know the ins and outs of these machines.
 

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vista seem's to have been sent out with too many bugs in it .
first off i have 4ghz of ram in the system. now i tryed installing
vista h/p 64 bit on it and kept getting the (bsod). so i came here
and saw a post that you have to remove 2ghz and any unused usb ports.
ok so it works like that, but thats like buying a new car and being
told before you can start it you need to take off the humcaps or
something like that.next if i try to install drivers for my board
before updating windows after windows updates my mouse moves around
the screen but if i try to click on any thing nothing happens? if i
do it the other way around and update windows first i works fine?
there's alot of other little things wrong with it aswell (Windows Media Center)
stopping for no reason after playing for about a hour.it seem's to take longer
when i click on something for it to come up . ( Windows Media Center ,
e-mail,internet) and so on. all there's little things make for a bad
os..and lets not forget trying to burn files to a disk , vista says
it needs to format the disk then i drag and drop files to it and click
on burn files to disk and it says the disk is full? or it says vista
needs to format the disk after it allready did it ? as for Performance
try copying a large file from one drive to another. it seem's to take forever
to do .maybe it's just my system but then again if you look at all the post
here were user's are also having so many problems with the os i'd have to say
it's the os and not my system.... i'm using asus p5n-e m/b with e6320 cpu , 4ghz of ram , NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS video card, 4 w/d 250ghz hd's 2 are raid 0 ,tv wonder 650 tuner card, memorex dvd multi format recorder.

when i run xp Media Center the system is fine fast and no trouble at all!

scrooge
 

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I've tried really hard to like Vista but I'm about ready to restore my old XP setup (Mac users - Winclone is awesome!). Too many things either outright don't work, or work but have issues that ultimately keep me from using said things.

I used to be the posterchild for hardcore computer guy.. but anymore, I just want stuff to work. Vista just doesn't work.
 

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I bought a new computer from Dell about a month ago with Vista Home Premium pre-installed on it.

IMO, if I pay a company like Dell good money for such a system, they (and Microsoft) should be the ones doing the homework and not me.

Believe it or not, my friend, but the vast majority of computer buyers are not computer experts who know the ins and outs of these machines.

You don't have to be a "computer expert" that knows the ins and outs in order to do your homework when buying a Vista based computer.

Surely even a "normal" user knows what software they use every day. And surely it can't be all that hard to find out if that software will work with their new Vista computer?

Case in point: You drive a 60's style VW Beatle, and are considering buying the newer one. Do you blindly buy the new style Beatle and hope that the accessories of your old car will work, or do you check them first? Chances are you check first before buying the new style Beatle.

Why should getting a new OS be any different?
 

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I'm not a 'gamer', but I do like playing games. Doom3 engine based games (Doom 3 and Doom 3 ROE, Quake 4 and Prey) are not playable. While they install and technically run under Vista (both 32 and 64 - swapping back and forth is pretty easy with Winclone), they perform horribly. No driver conflicts here, it's mouse lag and screen synch issues combined with complete 60-90 second freezes while the hard disk grinds away when you save something. I've installed updates to both the games and the OS, I've tried different video drivers, I've tried running games from different drives, etc. Nothing makes them playable.

They run perfectly under XP.

On second thought, maybe I am a hardcore gamer :) Valve's various games (Halflife2 and Portal and such) all work great under Vista, but I have a mod I've been trying to work on and none of the editing Source SDK tools work (random Exception errors - I'm on the Steam forums also, lots of Vista only issues).

Again, work fine under XP.

Adobe Creative Suite (original) wouldn't activate after installing, then after bruteforcing it over the phone (it wasn't a registered too may times problem), most of the programs won't run - just results in a 'Program .. has stopped responding' dialog.

Visual Studio [Express] is a complete pain in the ass. This could be a straight up x64 issue though.

On top of all of this, significant performance decreases (games, disk IO, interface response). Vista is far from snappy.

I could go on, but rather than complain, I just wiped my Vista64 partition. I have a Winclone saved of my fresh Vista32 partition, and also my XP setup. Going to wait a little bit before I decide what to restore.

If all you do is email, web, chat, maybe a game, Vista is probably fine. But if you actually 'use' your computer (or make money from it somehow), it doesn't seem to cut it.
 

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There are issues with the os I will agree. But it is a young os with alot of lines of code. There will be small things that annoy alot of people about it. It is impossible to test the code on every kind of setup. As problems arise microsoft do there best to solve them. Even if the component is not from microsoft. If you have a brand of gfx card that goes wrong who gets the error report? It is not the card developer but microsoft. There are small problems on my setup, eventhough I did my homework. Only time will tell how the os well end up.
 

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I would love to know how u got Ultimate to run dzom. I just couldn't for the life of me get vista to run correctly on 64 bit settings. I made sure everything was vista certified, I just get not responding from programs then they come back. XP i am not getting these issues. If all my drivers load and if it works in XP and its all Vista certified Its gotta be a bug in vista itself. For my case atleast.
 

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