What killed Vista will make Windows 7 fly

I'm one of those users who has been using Vista with no problems ever since Microsoft gave out RTM copies to beta testers. However, as a writer, I've watched the media completely destroy the public opinion of Vista, leading many to stick with Windows XP or to look for alternatives, even before they had tried Vista. Even with SP1 out, many have not bothered trying Vista on recent hardware and therefore could not realize the fact that it really is worthy of being XP's successor. If I had to lay the blame on one party for Vista's poor public opinion, I wouldn't lay it on Microsoft, I wouldn't lay it on hardware companies incapable of producing good drivers, I wouldn't lay it on the fact that XP is so good, I would lay it on the media for blowing things out of proportions.

Yes, the problem is exaggeration (it's in this article's title too, in case you missed it); bloggers and journalists alike use their personal experiences to prove their point in their writing. The blame doesn't solely lie with us, as Vista was by no means perfect, but we did manage to amplify the problems beyond reason. And if the beta is anything to go by, Windows 7 is going to fly. This is, by far, the best beta operating system the software giant has ever released. The media has locked on to this, and is using exaggeration already, before Windows 7 is even ready for prime time.

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[schultz911]

I installed the beta version of Windows Se7en on one of my drives. And man, does it work beautifully. Its is as said the best beta I have encountered and perhaps even the best OS. It seems like 7 is just a completed Vista. It is what Vista should have been. Great piece of work.

 

[randallrivy11]

so windows 7 is way better than vista ? where can i get a copy to try i have vista home prem 32 bit on one comp and 64 on another one not many problems but will win 7 con tain all the drivers needed for any hardrive graphics etc

 

[SIW2]

Hi ,

At the bottom of this page

Download the Windows 7 Beta

It had all the drivers I needed - as with Vista , some printers and cameras have a hard time - but that's the manufacturers not releasing updated drivers.

You may find this handy

http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_windows_vista_and_windows_7_vista_installed_first.htm

And here's a free .iso burner - if you're not familiar with iso burning - don't format the recordable dvd - if Autoplay pops up, just close it.

http://www.ntfs.com/downloads/Iso-burner.zip

Have fun

SIW2

 

[randallrivy11]

thank ya still wish i could us e xp i miss it it doesn t use as much ram and with tis one have dual core 2.5 intel and 4 gig of ram it would fly

 

[dinesh]

Its just the way how to advertise the product.
Windows 7 has gained nothing but advertisements.
Whereas, Windows Vista died because of rumours and hatred.
I've been using Windows 7 beta and found a couple of issues with it. im still waiting for the final release.

 

[gomez]

I have been using XP for years but just now changed to Vista.I found it works better and it contains more feature than XP.Even myself using the version 7.
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gomez

Home Based Business

 

[sygnus21]

I too have been using Vista since the beta days and really like it. I'm currently running Ultimate x64 and though it was a chore at first, drivers & software issues, things have gotten a lot better and performance is just as good as XP. I also like the addition of things like Aero, Gadgets, and the way Windows Explores displays items and folders, which to me is much better then XP.

I think the biggest problem with Vista, other than the initial slow performance prior to SP1's release, and getting use to the new interface, is that it makes you spend money, i.e. a lot of software and hardware had/has to be upgraded to run Vista, and that became a cost as well as a compatibility issue, which the media and critics harped on. Lucky for me, I had built this machine with Vista in mind, so my hardware was fine, though I did have to do some software upgrades, especially after moving to Vista 64.

At any rate when people hear (courtesy of the critics), they have to spend money on a broken OS, they tend to shy away. Unfortunately part of this was/is true (software & hardware upgrades).

Yes, consumers understand upgrades and will do them when necessary, but not on the scale of modders, tweak artists, and PC enthusiasts; mainstream consumers just want something that runs and works. XP has that right now because of its longevity…which is also a negative against Vista.

With Windows 7 and the positive reception it’s received thus far, those who have shied away from Vista or have been hesitant about leaving XP, will probably be willing spend to upgrade to an OS that has received such high praise and fanfare from the press and critics alike that really hadn’t been seen since…XP? And they’re being told that Window 7 is/will be a worthy upgrade over XP, and a “broken” Vista. FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt) killed Vista; Hype is giving life to W7.

The one big positive about Vista though is that it seems to be pushing 64-bit onto mainstream consumers at a far larger rate then XP 64 ever did, and software vendors realize this are finally starting to support 64-bit more and more each day, and it’s about time. Go into any mainstream computer store/outlet and you can buy Vista 64-bit machines right off the shelf; you didn't see this with XP; I myself didn't get into 64-bit till Vista.

So though the media/critics spew contempt for Vista, I don’t think they can deny the impact it has on pushing the 64-bit revolution to the forefront. To me that's a big plus for Vista. Windows 7 should make x64 even more commonplace once it’s released.

So do I do think Vista got a bad rap? Yeah, and Microsoft didn’t help things by accelerating the release date of Windows 7...right on the heels of Vista. Hmmm…shades of Window Millennium Edition? Or is Windows 7 destined to be a lite version of Vista? Things could get real interesting with the release of SP2 for Vista looming right around the corner.

Just my two cents.

Incidentally I have copy of Windows 7 x64 sitting on my machine, but I’ve yet to play with it.

 

[Ambrose]

Windows 7 does indeed fly, lets hope they dont change it at the last minute like they did with vista!!!!!
A few things dont work but thats down to 3rd party apps old drivers at the mo.

Vista gets a really bad press and it annoys the hell out of me, like "its a dog of an OS" 4 example ppl have said!! total rubbish!! Alot was down to bad 3rd party drivers, its matured now n with service pack1 it works gr8!!! And belive me i was a basher of vista When i 1st tried the beta..to be honest it just wasnt ready at the time!!!
I have no real problems at all now and i would never go back to XP!!!

The blame could be pointed at OEM's i feel, as they sent out PC's that just werent powerfull enough to run vista (ram is so cheap now there's no excuse!!!)
Apple wouldnt sell a computer to the consumer if it couldnt run the OS, microsoft dont make computers so they shouldnt take ALL the blame!!
Trouble with ppl off the street is they dont understand, like OSX, of course they 'may' seem to work better, but the hardware is chosen and tested to work specificly to work with OSX n everyone gets the same hardware!!! If Microsoft built their own harware pc's specifically for their OS im sure they would work better as well!!!!!!!

 

[randallrivy11]

Will windows 7 run on a 32 bit computer better ask tha t b4 i do all of this on a 32 bit computer that has a 232 bit system

 

[sygnus21]

Will windows 7 run on a 32 bit computer better ask tha t b4 i do all of this on a 32 bit computer that has a 232 bit system

Yes, Windows 7 comes in 32 and 64-bit flavors. You can download the trial version of either 32 or 64-bit.

 

[randallrivy11]

32 ops

 

[Hans23]

I have Windows Vista Ultimate x64 and have installed The Windows 7 Beta x64. I personally feel Windows 7 to be faster and better than Vista though, I found a couple of issues with Windows 7 that I have reported.
After the Final Release, I guess it would be a good idea to upgrade Vista to Windows 7.

 

[randallrivy11]

ty jus t oen more question can i put the program to shrink down vista down to make room on the hardrive the iso burner and windows 7 all on one dvd or do they have to be seperate

 

[randallrivy11]

can any1 tell me please so i can get this done

 

[SIW2]

Hi randall,

You need to put Win 7 on to dvd - you do that by using the iso burner to burn it to a dvd.

You don't put the isoburner on the dvd - just WIn7.

You burn the partitioning program onto a separate cd.

You use the iso burner to do that.

Again you don't put the isoburner on the cd - just the partitioning program.

If you rt click the zip file containing the burner and select extract - it will extract into a folder containing ths isoburner .exe.

Rt click the .exe and Browse to 7 iso . Then select the burn speed - a little lower than the max speed of your dvd drive and recordable dvd.

Put the dvd r in, close the tray , do not format it , if Autoplay pops up, just close it. Then click burn.

Then do the same with the partitioning program - it will fit on a cd and you can use a faster speed, say 32x.

Hope it helps

SIW2

 

[SIW2]

Here are some screenshots :











Hope it helps

SIW2

 

[randallrivy11]

thanks bud im gonna be watching the forum from my other computer so if i run n to any problems i can ask ive got 80 gig free do i still need to shrink vista down or can i skip that part and do i put just the iso which one is the partion manager

 

[SIW2]

Hi,

If you are able to shrink some space then create another partition using Vista Disk Management, you won't need another partition manager.

You do need a separate partition to install Win 7 on .

This video tutorial shows how to do it.

Windows 7 Forums - How to dual-boot Windows 7 BETA on a Vista computer

Hope it helps

SIW2

 

[randallrivy11]

thats helping alot would it be a good or bad idea to shrink the recovery partition also or elave it like it is