Stop unfairly comparing Vista to its predecessor and its successor

It seems like everywhere you turn on the Web these days, there’s another article bad mouthing Microsoft Windows Vista and telling you to stay with Windows XP — arguing that XP is the greatest Microsoft OS ever. It also seems like there are just as many articles praising Windows 7 as our OS savior — and it’s barely even a twinkle in Bill Gate’s eye at this point. While reading these types of articles recently, I’ve begun to recall other points in the history of Microsoft operating systems and draw parallels with what happened then with what is happening today with Vista. In this edition of the Windows Vista Report, I’ll explore some of these parallels.

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i think these comparisons will go till the time Windows 7 gets released. I still remmember my friends used to handsome frog about windows Xp when it was first released and argued that Windows 98 was the best OS ever. Same happened with Vista when XP became a household name. I think this is basic human nature and lack of product knowledge.
 

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Hi MSDOS and welcome to the Vista Forums, :party:

The thing is that a lot of the people who still rave about XP have known nothing else It's been around a long time and a lot of people grew up with it. and it's the old familiar friend.
But in this industry, hardware develops and the OS has to change to match, there are only so many service packs you can build before you have to start from scratch.

I personally think MS has done a good job with Vista and my experience with the Windows 7 beta is all positive, so far, so will watch with interest as things develop, as I have done with each OS from MS since early DOS :D
 

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i still like the early MSDOS , pretty nostalgic for me as i first got my hands on computer with MSDOS . I was in school then , brings back sweet memories but pains as i can not go back in time. They had 7 - 8 computers with Huge monster CPUs fitted with 5.5" floppy discs , Black screens with white writings. We used to do GW BASIC and play Space Commander , prince of Persia and Dave. The term virus was fairly unheard and the whole thing was quite a mystry.

I wish we could all be like that ....... all this time we have gained nothing but anarchy
 

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Hi,

The thing is DOS is still going strong - in the form of the Command line in Vista and will be I think Just as important in the future with Windows 7 - a quick look around this forum will show many solutions that start with "in a command prompt ... ".

In my times as a Network Admin it was always the case that a DOS box would be open somewhere on the screen.

Enjoy your time here, The members here are some of the most knowledgeable on the Web but are all approchable
 

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These idiots can only compare things they don't understand. Vista works fine. Its the users who are the problem.
 

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You guys are right, people tend to be biased towards the things they use quite often. And do not wish to change. So, they start bashing the new product. Same thing has happened with Windows Vista. I believe same thing will happen when Windows 7 comes out.
 

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Nothing makes me yawn quicker than a fanboi. Except maybe a thread full of them :p

Worse than the Vista bashers will be the "I told you so" crowd who sagely nodded their heads and 'advised' people through the bad days of Vista to wait for W7. I wonder who breeds all those high horses :huh:

Of course there are still going to be the haters who will bore you to tears no matter what :rolleyes:
 

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had a custom built pc with vista home premium installed, it works fine and much better than XP. Thought XP was naff when using win98SE, but came to understand XP was better, but would not install vista on the XP box...
 

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I think you'll aways get people complaining no matter what OS it is, me I like whichever one I'm using at the time and have found that they all have their faults as well as their strengths.

Look how they crucified WinME when it came out, yet I never had any problems with it, in fact it's still running and part of my network, yes it does have the occasional hiccup but don't they all, you just carry on and work with it's strengths and make the best of what you have.

The same goes for all of them, technology is forever moving forward and so you keep building newer machines to take advantage of it, but it doesn't mean that the old ones weren't just as good in their day.

OK after that load of rubbish from my point of view I'll go and see what else is going on :D
 

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It seems like everywhere you turn on the Web these days, there’s another article bad mouthing Microsoft Windows Vista and telling you to stay with Windows XP — arguing that XP is the greatest Microsoft OS ever. It also seems like there are just as many articles praising Windows 7 as our OS savior — and it’s barely even a twinkle in Bill Gate’s eye at this point. While reading these types of articles recently, I’ve begun to recall other points in the history of Microsoft operating systems and draw parallels with what happened then with what is happening today with Vista. In this edition of the Windows Vista Report, I’ll explore some of these parallels.
So true barman58 I have to admit I was one of the stubborn ones when it came to updating from win 98se to XP. Xp turned out to be a very good OS, but let's not forget SP1,SP2 and SP3 for XP. There will always be problems with new operating systems that will only surface when the operating system gets into the "real testers" hands Ie: the general public. For me Vista works fine, like all the other os's I have learned how to "tweak" my Vista to my liking.
 

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ok vista........ getting bashed..... yes it makes sense there are alot of thing Microsoft went halfway with on this os, they tried to fix some security issues... but went halfway and didn't finish it, they tried to fix some driver problems and again went halfway and made some of them worse.
 

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ME should have been a Service Pack release and not a full release. It actually did have many issues that caused timing issues and clock issues with the change to 2000. They rushed it to market without proper testing. Just like Vista. The main issue with Vista to start was stable video drivers and device support was flaky. SP1 resolved it. This was when I installed. I never do an OS with less than SP1 on the install disk.

memory management is much better in Vista
L2 cache reg entry inproved performance on my Xeons
UAC does work to stop trojans
ATI and Nvidia figured out driver support
DX10 and DX10.1 still have a few minor issues
 

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well the drivers for me haven't been great....
 

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I personally really like Vista. Sure we all liked XP but I welcomed the change. We needed it. Some people are just scared of the unknown as they say. Vista is unique in it's own right, you either like it or not. I say be happy with what you have, there's no need to bash one OS or another. My one cent. lol
 

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true....... but it would be nice i could get those drivers i need to work........
 

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true....... but it would be nice i could get those drivers i need to work........

Have you tried posting what you need in the drivers section here ;)
May not be immediate but one of the members may be able to help
 

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simple fact if you put an XP skin on vista and told ppl it was the new XP+1 they'd believe you and love every second of it.....

the big problem is they moved and re skinned things in vista and that was an unexpected change even for me, when u caompare how similar in a way 11.1 to 2000/xp look even though its cosmetic vista has changed and the biggest problem of all time is that people dont like change and thats why they wine about it so much, they cant deal with what the dont understand and know i.e better the devil you know than the devil you dont

silly really but thats just how people react when they dont understand
 

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There is more to it than "it just looks different" or it just feels different.

There is the usability factor, and by that I mean not only the usability of the OS itself in the hands of the end user, but also the usability of the hardware you already have for the new OS.

I have been around long enough to have made a transition from MS-DOS (well, Tandy MS-DOS lol) 2.11 to Windows 7. There are many who have been around longer (I can't really count my first computer, as it was a TI 99-4/A, which saved data to Cassette, and ran off of cartridges) but the fact remains that many people get set in their ways and want things to stay the same. Many people running XP were also running machines that were 4 even 5 years old, and although they might have upgraded components here and there, it was still basically a low end machine.

Then there come the niches - the gamers, the hardcore programmers, the bloggers, the social-network addicts, etc. - they have very specific machine needs in mind, and for them, unless they are in the market for a new machine, Vista was simply not priced right. Gamers split into two camps - those that acknowledged that Dx10 was better overall than Dx9 and those that still harped that Games performed better when running XP versus Vista (which will be true forever and ever for the most part if you run XP and Vista on the exact same machine - which is not fair - Vista is the newer, younger brother, and in and of itself is a lot larger in terms of lines of code than XP, thereby meaning it uses more resources. It's bound to be true that you'll need a machine that can keep up with Vista's demands, your 1999 Compaq Armada 1500C laptop or equivalent desktop (I suppose the tail end of the PIII era if the 366 Celeron base laptop was a mid range laptop then) just simple won't keep up with an OS released a full7+ years later. And yet, I can say from testing XP that XP did not run as well on older hardware (for its time) than Vista did when I was testing it.

I tested XP on a Pentium 200 machine with 96 MB RAM. That was achingly slow. Then after XP came out, I built a decent machine (for its time) around it - a P4 2.0(A) GHz (Northwood) CPU on a Tyan Trinity 510 motherboard with 1 GB of RAM. Started in Jan of '02 and finished the complete build in May of '02. It worked for a while - that same machine got upgraded many times, with a different CPU, then different mobo, different video card, different HDs more times than I could count, all leading up to testing Vista on a 3.2(E) (Prescott) CPU w/ HT on an MSI Neo-2 Platinum Edition mobo with 1 GB RAM. After Vista went RTM I went to 3 GB of RAM, and was loving Vista. Then I built the BeastIV in April, and I am already planning on upgrading the CPU, mobo an RAM within a few months.

The point of all this diatribe is that it is not just a resistance to change in a generalized way but it is a very specific need to keep working on a machine that has been true for a couple of years now. It's a bit of nostalgia, a bit of economics, and a bit of rebelliousness.

The only problem I have is that these days I hear idiots left and right complaining about things they have never even tried. Even if Vista isn't as speedy as XP on the same identical machine, with Vista native UAC, I can avoid having to run 4 or 5 layers of protection in the way of AV, anti-spyware, and other such nonsense. I guarantee if you put a well protected Vista machine (maybe 3 apps total) and a well protected XP machine (probably no less than 9 pieces of software, with at least 3 of those resident 24/7) you'll see XP is not nearly as fast as it seems to be. Nor it is nearly as forgiving as Vista is.

Case in point - in XP when I tried to enable SLI, I have to reboot. WTF?!? In Vista, it temporarily kills the VDDM, enables SLI, and enables the VDDM - a process that takes no longer than 15 seconds. XP may have been fast, but no one ever got a 15 second turnaround from a reboot. 30, maybe, 45 more likely, but 15? Feh.

Vista is a more intelligent OS, but you need horsepower to use it. There are a number of reasons not to use it - but the worst of the complainers and naysayers are those that continually say the current thing is the best. One noted 'writer' was busted by good old Ed Bott over at ZDNet because not only did he scathingly denounce Vista as a legitimate OS and extolling the virtues of XP, he tailored his piece to run very, very similar to his piece about 7 years previous - denouncing XP.

Same man, same (almost) words, same BS. And the worst part is that these days that man has a larger following than he did back then - so even *more* idiots will point their fingers and cry in fear thinking that Vista is just bad.
 

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    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkPad E545
    CPU
    AMD A6-5350M APU
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    8 GB
    Sound Card
    Conextant 20671 SmartAudio HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Lenovo 15" Matte
    Screen Resolution
    1680 * 1050
    Hard Drives
    INTEL Cherryvill 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SSD
    PSU
    Lenovo
    Case
    Lenovo
    Cooling
    Lenovo
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master (shared) | Synaptics TouchPad
    Keyboard
    Lenovo
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex
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