from xp to vista

I am not a PC expert but I am a car enthusiast. And that's why I stay away from anologies when driving (pardon the pun) a point.

Thunderbird happens to be a bad choice(sorry John). Same thing with Jaguar xke. These are two models - sleek two seater opera windowed T-bird and sexy front boobed Jaguar- that should have been left alone, retired...because they have reached the level of perfection. Subsequent models of these two cars are but horrible simulacrums of their glorious past. In other words...they were murdered.

But technology is another animal. It moves on...to better version...with changing times and changing world.

Dude, you've gotta move on with the times,,,and technology. Otherwise , you'd be still tied up to your corded phone. Or for that matter, corded mouse. Heck, I still cannot get over my newly acquired wirelss printer. (OK, sometimes, analogy is in order)

How can anybody be still with W95. Horrors!!!!Is he still on dial up connection?

I mean, XP was very good.... so was W98 before that and so forth and so on. But I am concerned for people who stick with XP due to Vistaphobia They are up to have a stroke or aneurysm when W7 gets released.
 

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...I've found people adapt to Vista much more easily when they forget about navigating paths, menus and sub~menus and just use the search. What you want pops up as fast as you can type.


It's a different OS - Best to treat it that way.
 

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...I've found people adapt to Vista much more easily when they forget about navigating paths, menus and sub~menus and just use the search. What you want pops up as fast as you can type.


It's a different OS - Best to treat it that way.


i completely agree. the new run/search line in the start menu is super awesome. and you put it very well. its not xp. its a different OS. its best to not listen to the crap you hear about it and others oppinions. just try it out for yourself, point and click to your heart's desire. if then you dont like it, then dont use it. that wont stop the rest of us from enjoying the fruits of our labor in getting used to it.:cool:
 

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First of all I appreciate all the feedback. Just because Vista is the latest OS does not mean that we have to buy it and use it whether it is good or not. If we blindly buy whatever is new then the companies that produce those goods will not care that much to give you their best.

I did not have any problems adapting to XP. Navigating with Vista is tantamount to walking a tightrope in the dark. The same goes for Office 2007. Again I ask. What are the benefits of going Vista? Being the latest OS is not necessarily a benefit. A flop is a Flop. Now I am NOT dismissing Vista; not until SP2. I truly hope they fix Vista and if not then the MAC may be my next PC.

The problem is that the more I ask the more negative replies I get. That is why I ask in this Forum. I want to hear the benefits from people who are happy using Vista.:confused:
 

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It's because Vistaphobes are operating on basically insufficient knowledge. In other words, they seem to give up after the first speed bump from starting gate.

I had similar XPphobia when I was sooo happy with W98. SP2 is not gonna make any diff for phobic people.
 

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It's because Vistaphobes are operating on basically insufficient knowledge. In other words, they seem to give up after the first speed bump from starting gate.

I had similar XPphobia when I was sooo happy with W98. SP2 is not gonna make any diff for phobic people.


i agree which is why i always tell ppl to not listen to opinions and just try it for themselves.

i was at my girl's moms house last night and she brought home a brand new sony vaio lappy. very sexy piece of hardware which came with vista. she had never used vista and was like everyone else who had heard all the crap ppl had to say about it. she was starting to ask me to reinstall xp on it. after a few huffs and puffs i sat down with her and made her turn it on. walked her through the basics in where stuff is like where pics and docs go and how the start menu works. after about 5 min she was very excited and wanted to use vista afterall. (besides i think reinstalling would've been a waste.

anyways heres what you are looking to hear from ppl.

what i actually like about vista:

My favorite things about vista are the ultimate extras, and a few normal features. I love the dreamscene feature (which lets you use videos as a desktop background). I also am totally addicted to windows aero (transparent windows) and the windows flip feature ( Windows key + tab) which is a very sexy way of changing and viewing your available windows and apps. Vista also provides much better memory management than xp (the longer you leave it on the more efficiently it uses it). not to mention the media center in vista is very awesome. thats one of the main reasons i dual boot because i couldnt live without media center. so i am one of the truely satisfied customers of vista and am on the waiting list to beta test windows 7. although i do agree the way microsoft unvieled vista to the public was a little annoying just because they didnt give 3rd party developers enough time to write compatiple drivers, its pretty much all good now so i give microsoft 2 thumbs up.:party::party:
 

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It's because Vistaphobes are operating on basically insufficient knowledge. In other words, they seem to give up after the first speed bump from starting gate.

My first computer was the Sinclair zx81, then Spectrum, then Atari 800, then Atari 1040STFM, and then it was PCs running windows 95 all the way to WinXP.

I tried using my sons pc (Vista) and felt so damn frustrated that I had to call a friend over to help on a problem. Sure if you spend time you will eventually learn how to use Vista. Personally I do not have the time to reinvent the wheel.

Since I can make Vista have the Classic look I do not mind so much. What I am afraid of is my new PC slowing down and my software not working properly and having to dish out more money to find solutions.

Unless one owns shares in Microsoft I do not see the reason why one would take offence at critique laid out on Vista.

My hard earned cash cannot be spent on problematic software. Come on guys you can see the reason here.

I expected to hear benefits and what I get is how cool it looks and how nice the windows look etc. The only benefit is memory management! If it is only that then there is not reason to go Vista.

Anyway thank you all for actually taking your time to inform me and answer to my queries. :)
 

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What does your son think?
 

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What does your son think?

Initially he begged me to install XP. I told him to learn as much as he can on Vista so in the rare case I have to do the same he can help me.

6 months later and he still hates Vista. I asked him today what his classmates think and he told me literally "Vista sucks".

We shall see what the future has in store for us.

Personally I think Vista is what Win ME was; a very bad OS before a Good one.:huh:
 

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I was hoping your son can help you...but looks like you are fixed. Closed.

Well....you can't win 'em all. Don't say we did not try. Goodbye!
 

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I was hoping your son can help you...but looks like you are fixed. Closed.

Well....you can't win 'em all. Don't say we did not try. Goodbye!


yep...good luck maybe you should try ummm leapard :sick:
 

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Leopard?
 

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OK...since this thread is no longer open for relevance, let me ask: Why am I a "Senior" member? Was I ever a newbie? Or "Junior"?

.......I have a bad feeling for posting this.
 

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It's because Vistaphobes are operating on basically insufficient knowledge. In other words, they seem to give up after the first speed bump from starting gate.

My first computer was the Sinclair zx81, then Spectrum, then Atari 800, then Atari 1040STFM, and then it was PCs running windows 95 all the way to WinXP.

I tried using my sons pc (Vista) and felt so damn frustrated that I had to call a friend over to help on a problem. Sure if you spend time you will eventually learn how to use Vista. Personally I do not have the time to reinvent the wheel.

Since I can make Vista have the Classic look I do not mind so much. What I am afraid of is my new PC slowing down and my software not working properly and having to dish out more money to find solutions.

Unless one owns shares in Microsoft I do not see the reason why one would take offence at critique laid out on Vista.

My hard earned cash cannot be spent on problematic software. Come on guys you can see the reason here.

I expected to hear benefits and what I get is how cool it looks and how nice the windows look etc. The only benefit is memory management! If it is only that then there is not reason to go Vista.

Anyway thank you all for actually taking your time to inform me and answer to my queries. :)

The basic idea here is that Vista, while definitely requiring better hardware to run (and XP *did* do the same thing when folks first went to it - but Vista will run *better* on old hardware than XP did on old hardware of its generation), will, in fact, make life a lot easier on you.

One of the key features is UAC, and that has been talked about enough to make your head spin. In a recap, though, Vista follows the corporate format of user permissions and ownership a lot better than XP ever did. Vista also realizes that uncontrolled and unlimited access to system files is simply dangerous - Most users of XP are instructed to use a layered approach for protection, involving anywhere from 5-7 applications, with nearly the majority of them running at all times. Vista is much more secure in this respect, and I know of people who get away without running *any* protection other than that offered already in Vista. It's one of the reasons that XP vs Vista in side by side tests are so unfair - OOB, XP includes nothing but a very basic Firewall - Vista has an advanced FW, Windows Defender and UAC OOB - so a truly *fair* test with XP would include, at the bare minimum, Defender for XP activated and running, plus an enhanced FW for XP, all running on Hardware that was prevalent in October 2003 (roughly 2 years after XP's release). Putting them on hte same exact platform is rather wasted, as it is obvious that a program with so much less in terms of program source code lines will almost always run faster than the program with more.

Then there are little things, like support for DirectX 10, sandboxing of executables in the OS (if Windows Explorer Crashes in Vista, getting it back up again is relatively easy. Stopping and restarting the Vista Display manager is a piece of cake - I can switch from non SLI mode to SLI mode with my dual graphics cards without having to restart the OS - Can't do that in XP. Cleartype support has been improved in Vista. Support for larger fonts *natively* in Vista is a lot better, in terms of scalig apps to meet with hte large font use (in XP, by contrast, most apps *don't* scale with the use of larger fonts, making the use of larger fonts very hard to accomplish iwthout sacrificing UI layout and / or aesthetics).

Finally, the search bar built into the start menu - Just that by itself works wonders. I want to open device manager but don't wnat ot navigate through 5 menus? I click the start button and type 'device' - and all references to the word device in terms of programs show up. Add to that that it can be enhanced with the BrandonTools to do so much more that it is ridiculous makes it a much improved interface over XP's start menu. That alone qualifies it for an *obvious* redesign of the XP OS< as opposed to just being new bloatware.

I suggest that you try using the start bar for a solid week - you'll find some quirks, but for the most part you'll find it a *lot* easier to deal with than the old way of navigating through menus.

There is a lot more but this should give you ideas that it isn't just a prettier, but bloated OS.

That being said, if you don't like Vista, you might wait another year or so and go straight to Windows 7 - in testing it, thus far, it has the best of both worlds - a lot of Vista features (and even several improved ones) as well as XPs zippiness.

What does your son think?

Initially he begged me to install XP. I told him to learn as much as he can on Vista so in the rare case I have to do the same he can help me.

6 months later and he still hates Vista. I asked him today what his classmates think and he told me literally "Vista sucks".

We shall see what the future has in store for us.

Personally I think Vista is what Win ME was; a very bad OS before a Good one.:huh:

Not even - for reasons above, especially those involving Security, Vista is a much better OS than XP ever was - even with SP2 added on as an after thought.

OK...since this thread is no longer open for relevance, let me ask: Why am I a "Senior" member? Was I ever a newbie? Or "Junior"?

.......I have a bad feeling for posting this.

You might try asking this in another forum instead of hijacking this thread :p

I think ti is based upon # posts though....
 

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Hi, I have just bought a new hard drive with Vista Home premium and have managed to (or still managing to) complete the transfer and understand the differences. One dissapointment was that the machine did not come with Microsoft Office. Do you suggest I download from the disc i already have or is there something I am missing in Vista that replaces it? I am not really thick just tired as i had to change from microsoft outlook to outlook express then merge with windows mail and life is too short!

Many thanks

Eileen
 

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Hi, I have just bought a new hard drive with Vista Home premium and have managed to (or still managing to) complete the transfer and understand the differences. One dissapointment was that the machine did not come with Microsoft Office. Do you suggest I download from the disc i already have or is there something I am missing in Vista that replaces it? I am not really thick just tired as i had to change from microsoft outlook to outlook express then merge with windows mail and life is too short!

Many thanks

Eileen

Microsoft Office is an entirely different, and seperate product, usually bought as an additional installation. If the company that supplied the computer DOES install it, it will likely be a 30-day trial, for which you still need to purchase the license seperately.

If you already have an Office installation disc, you can install it onto you new pc, but you will be required to first remvoe it from the computer onto which it was originall installed. It's usually easier (but more expensive) to just buy another Office.
 

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Sorry but I have another question.....using windows mail, I cannot auto correct the grammer for example all my capital letters would be corrected etc...I type very fast so loved this feature. can i get it back by installing microsoft office or was it just on microsoft outlook? sorry again if i am in the wrong thread... E
 

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Sorry but I have another question.....using windows mail, I cannot auto correct the grammer for example all my capital letters would be corrected etc...I type very fast so loved this feature. can i get it back by installing microsoft office or was it just on microsoft outlook? sorry again if i am in the wrong thread... E

I think that feature was with Office Outlook. I can't tell about Windows Mail, because I don't use it...
 

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