ATI vs. Nvidia

[skunksmash]

Nvidia = high price, but peace of mind

ATI = raw power at a low price... but far less driver support


both company's have merit, i don't like the way Nvidia go about their marketing, they're greedy thief's..... but their cards are far more stable on a variety of H/W

 

[smarteyeball]

ATI = raw power at a low price... but far less driver support

As an added bonus, you get a free game with every Catalyst driver release called " What have they fixed, what have they broke? "

Hours of extra fun at no added cost

Nvidia = high price, but peace of mind

Nvidia, not to be outdone, gave away the same game with their latest forceware release

 

[thepizzaman]

Nvidia to the death.

Most games are written for their cards, their drivers actually occasionally improve performance, and the performance of the current best nvidia card in SLI - the GTX 295 massacres any ATI offering with a suitable i7 processor and RAID setup along with plenty of RAM.

um...... i would not say that.........as a 4870x2 outpreforms the geforce 295........... and a single 4890 is only 40 fps slower on fear2 than the 2 core 295........ so that means a cf 4890 will out preform a 295.....
Charts, benchmarks Gaming Graphics Cards Charts 2009 (High Quality), F.E.A.R. 2

It was 2 GTX 295's in SLI, which are better than a 4890 or Crossfire. The drivers for a 4870X2 are rubbish and most games are built for nvidia cards. Have you ever seen ATI the way its meant to be played?

ok so two 295....... thats four gpus vs two gpus well duh its gonna win.... now lets make it a fair match...... 4 on 4......... 295's lose plan and simple,
and yes i have my two fav games on my computer are perfect with my card (call of juarez, and stranglehold) or if we do a cf on a 4870x2 setup..... 295 loses....... and soon to have the HD5000 series...... nivida is going to be a little behind

 

[lemur]

A Little Help?

From the list below, which card would you recommend? Looking for one that won't burn out after a short time. No interest in OC.

Sapphire Radeon HD 4770 - $116.97 from Newegg
EVGA GeForce GTS 250 Video Card -$119 from TigerDirect
GigaByte Radeon HD 4850 Video Card - $113.96 Buy.com
MSI Radeon HD 4850 - $110 Buy.com
BFG Technologies GeForce GTS 250 - $122 TigerDirect

Please forgive the cross-post.

Thank you!

 

[the2baddavid]

From the list below, which card would you recommend? Looking for one that won't burn out after a short time. No interest in OC.

Sapphire Radeon HD 4770 - $116.97 from Newegg
EVGA GeForce GTS 250 Video Card -$119 from TigerDirect
GigaByte Radeon HD 4850 Video Card - $113.96 Buy.com
MSI Radeon HD 4850 - $110 Buy.com
BFG Technologies GeForce GTS 250 - $122 TigerDirect

Please forgive the cross-post.

Thank you!

what games do you want to play?
what is the resolution of your monitor?
are you interested in anti aliasing?
would you be crossfiring/ sli?

 

[lemur]

From the list below, which card would you recommend? Looking for one that won't burn out after a short time. No interest in OC.

Sapphire Radeon HD 4770 - $116.97 from Newegg
EVGA GeForce GTS 250 Video Card -$119 from TigerDirect
GigaByte Radeon HD 4850 Video Card - $113.96 Buy.com
MSI Radeon HD 4850 - $110 Buy.com
BFG Technologies GeForce GTS 250 - $122 TigerDirect

Please forgive the cross-post.

Thank you!

what games do you want to play?
what is the resolution of your monitor?
are you interested in anti aliasing?
would you be crossfiring/ sli?

Good questions!
I have an Asus M2N-E SLI motherboard which means I could use SLI. However, I don't have any short term need for SLI (or crossfiring).
Games - SPORE, Second Life, and possibly more graphic intensive games
Max monitor rez - 1280 x 1024
My current anti-aliasing is application controlled

Thanks!

 

[smarteyeball]

If it's a SLI board, go for an Nvidia card. (you can't crossfire ATI cards on an SLI board)

At that res either the EVGA or BFG gtx 250 will be sufficient.

 

[the2baddavid]

From the list below, which card would you recommend? Looking for one that won't burn out after a short time. No interest in OC.

Sapphire Radeon HD 4770 - $116.97 from Newegg
EVGA GeForce GTS 250 Video Card -$119 from TigerDirect
GigaByte Radeon HD 4850 Video Card - $113.96 Buy.com
MSI Radeon HD 4850 - $110 Buy.com
BFG Technologies GeForce GTS 250 - $122 TigerDirect

Please forgive the cross-post.

Thank you!

what games do you want to play?
what is the resolution of your monitor?
are you interested in anti aliasing?
would you be crossfiring/ sli?

Good questions!
I have an Asus M2N-E SLI motherboard which means I could use SLI. However, I don't have any short term need for SLI (or crossfiring).
Games - SPORE, Second Life, and possibly more graphic intensive games
Max monitor rez - 1280 x 1024
My current anti-aliasing is application controlled

Thanks!

what i meant by anti aliasing, is if you are interested in it? if you arent or are can mean a big price difference.
also, does your psu have a plug for a graphics card?
and lastly what are you looking to spend?
but i think we have narrowed down that you will want nvidia (incase you ever want to sli to get a second cheap card instead of a new expensive one)

look at this on how much to spend
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-graphics-card,2362.html

and these are the 2008 and 2009 benchmarks
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-charts-q3-2008/Assassins-Creed-v1.02,738.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-charts-2009/benchmarks,54.html

 

[Ojaser6]

hmmmmm...

 

[Frostmourne]

um...... i would not say that.........as a 4870x2 outpreforms the geforce 295........... and a single 4890 is only 40 fps slower on fear2 than the 2 core 295........ so that means a cf 4890 will out preform a 295.....
Charts, benchmarks Gaming Graphics Cards Charts 2009 (High Quality), F.E.A.R. 2

It was 2 GTX 295's in SLI, which are better than a 4890 or Crossfire. The drivers for a 4870X2 are rubbish and most games are built for nvidia cards. Have you ever seen ATI the way its meant to be played?

ok so two 295....... thats four gpus vs two gpus well duh its gonna win.... now lets make it a fair match...... 4 on 4......... 295's lose plan and simple,
and yes i have my two fav games on my computer are perfect with my card (call of juarez, and stranglehold) or if we do a cf on a 4870x2 setup..... 295 loses....... and soon to have the HD5000 series...... nivida is going to be a little behind

You'd be lucky to get 20fps with a single 4870X2 in Crysis at 1920x1200 with settings maxed out and AA at 8x. As for Crossfire those cards drop out in most new games - from Far Cry 2 to FEAR 2. Lucky if crossfire is even detected.

 

[smarteyeball]

As for Crossfire those cards drop out in most new games - from Far Cry 2 to FEAR 2. Lucky if crossfire is even detected.

Ah, no - wrong.

 

[Frostmourne]

As for Crossfire those cards drop out in most new games - from Far Cry 2 to FEAR 2. Lucky if crossfire is even detected.

Ah, no - wrong.

And the microstuttering too:

HD 4870X2 QuadFire vs GTX 295 Quad SLI Compared - Page 2 - XtremeSystems Forums

 

[archie123]

good god no not another ATI versus Nvidia thread.....itll go on and on and on and on............

i rest my case......................light the blue touch paper and stand back

 

[smarteyeball]

And the microstuttering too:

HD 4870X2 QuadFire vs GTX 295 Quad SLI Compared - Page 2 - XtremeSystems Forums

Your point being? Regardless of platform, all multi-gpu/ Crossfire/SLI cards can suffer micro-stuttering to varying degrees.

The GTX-295 was also renowned for micro stutter as much as the 4870x2 was. In both cases, drivers have largely eliminated the problem.

I personally don't have any problems with microstutter with my crossfire setup and if it's there, it's certainly not worth noticing.

Next

good god no not another ATI versus Nvidia thread.....itll go on and on and on and on............

i rest my case......................light the blue touch paper and stand back

Whoosh :D

 

[thepizzaman]

And the microstuttering too:

HD 4870X2 QuadFire vs GTX 295 Quad SLI Compared - Page 2 - XtremeSystems Forums

Your point being? Regardless of platform, all multi-gpu/ Crossfire/SLI cards can suffer micro-stuttering to varying degrees.

The GTX-295 was also renowned for micro stutter as much as the 4870x2 was. In both cases, drivers have largely eliminated the problem.

I personally don't have any problems with microstutter with my crossfire setup and if it's there, it's certainly not worth noticing.

Next

very nice job :D haha

good god no not another ATI versus Nvidia thread.....itll go on and on and on and on............

i rest my case......................light the blue touch paper and stand back

Whoosh :D[/QUOTE]
no no..... whoosh is a little off..... more like...... Kabooooooooooooooooooooooooooom :D haha

 

[Ojaser6]

I'm not much of a gamer anyway, so I'll just go with ATI.

 

[zigzag3143]

good god no not another ATI versus Nvidia thread.....itll go on and on and on and on............

Oh please archie I want more neverending holy war threads. We should start a windows vs mac, a amd vs intel, and many more. I just need to fill my brain with useless information. I even use hulu because I just dont get enough useless info to rot my brain

Ken

 

[archie123]

microstuttering is a product of sli/crossfire , some people notice it some dont , some games get it bad some dont and it depends on what type is being used "split frame rendering" or ALTERNATE FRAME RENDERING" its not worth putting it in the mix as both brands are affected , its due to the way the two cards render the entire scene when in sli/crossfire mode.

it was ALOT worse back in the voodo days when each card would render half the scene then put the two together , now its much much more complicated

 

[dustinface]

Ojaser, you never posted the specs that were asked of you so we could help you out!
What PSU do you have? What's your motherboard? What processor do you have? What's your spending limit?
With that info we would be much more suited to helping you out.

p.s. this thread was doomed to be off topic the instant it was named "ATI vs. Nvidia"
fanbois ftl.

 

[skunksmash]

I'm not much of a gamer anyway, so I'll just go with ATI.

LMAO.........D:D

maybe ATI should use this as their marketing slogan.