2 os in 1 partion?

kiddieboy12

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can i make 2 os in 1 partion?
 

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I highly doubt it. Unless you want to store an ISO file, and load it up with a Virtual Machine...

~Lordbob
 

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i know that. i tried. well not really. i had nstalled files on the partion. (program files) it renemed then ...old. i amcurious if u can. any other offers?
 

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No can do because the bootsectors would simply crash and burn, the closest to would be creating a seperate partition like you normally would.

Nice thought though, imaginative.

Cheers
 

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Well, trying to install another Microsoft OS would crash it for sure, or overwrite it. I have to wonder about linux though...

~Lordbob
 

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exactly
 

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I don't think it would work.

~Lordbob
 

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why not?
 

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Two OS's cannot share the same partition. That's just how it is. ;)

The only workaround I know of is to install one OS on the partition, then have the other OS in a VHD (Virtual Hard Drive) file that is also on the same partition. This tutorial shows you how to create the VHD file and install the other OS into the VHD file from boot onto the C: partition with the other OS.

Virtual Hard Drive VHD File - Create and Start with at Boot - Windows 7 Forums

Hope this helps,
Shawn
 

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aww. then is it possible to hack it so i can have more than 4 partion in 1 hard drive?
 

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  • CPU
    amd 64x2 4200+ 2.2ghz per core
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    ECS NETTLE
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    3 gb
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    nvdia 6150se nforce 430(old rig, upgrading)
    Sound Card
    reltrek hd audio
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    hp w1907
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    1440x968/1024x768
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    320gb
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    upgrading, Coolmax CA-450 450watts
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    hp casing
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    defult..
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    hp
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    hp
    Internet Speed
    768kbps down and 128 up...very slow..
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    not great compared to other people..
Having more than 4 partitions on a hard drive is not recommened since you cannot use the ones past 4 to boot and install a OS from.

Using the OS in a VHD is a good option for this if you have the space available for it that partition.
 

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    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
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    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
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    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung Odyssey G7 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2, 4TB Samsung 990 PRO PRO M.2, 8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
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    Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
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    Thermaltake Core P3
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    Logitech MX Master 3
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    Conexant ISST Audio
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    17.3" UHD IPS touch
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    512 GB M.2 SSD
Hello Kiddieboy,

You can have more than 4 partitions on a single drive - what you cannot have is more than 4 primary partitions.

and the good news is you do not need a primary partition to contain an OS, just for the boot sector needed to actually use it.

As you can see from the attached image I currently have 7 partitions, six in use plus a bit of spare space which may end up with server 2008 R2 beta on it soon

partitions.JPG

Mind you I don't recommend anyone else to try this but it's stable enough at the moment.

For an explanation of how it works the two Win7 installations actually share the boot sector with the Vista (system) partition as this existed prior to them being created, the un-named partitions are Linux and it's swap disk
 
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can i make 2 os in 1 partion?

Depends if you count Dos as an "OS" or not.
I seem to remember having Dos 5.x on C: with Windows9x.
You booted Dos and if you wanted to run Windows you
ran the Windows.com executable. Sort of like the old
days of Slackware where you booted Linux to a console
and if you wanted XWindows you started up the X server.

The other method is actually separate partitions but a dual boot setup
so whichever OS you boot sees itself as C: and the partition of the
non-booted OS is hidden. The scheme is rarely used nowadays
because it's unreliable. Seems like just a matter of time until booting one
OS from the other mixed up some boot file or setting and then neither
would boot correctly.
 

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    CRT
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Hi miles,

There is at least one Linux distro (maybe Ubuntu, but don't quote me :) ), that allows you to boot from within windows and run as an application on top of windows, just like Win9.x and DOS
 

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    Windows 10 Pro x64 Latest Release Preview
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    Acer G276HL 27", (DVi) + Samsung 39" HDTV (HDMI)
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 1920x1080 @50Hz
  • Manufacturer/Model
    Real World Computers (Custom by Me)
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    AMD FX8350 Vishera 8 Core @4GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus M5A78L-M USB3
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    32GB [4x8GB] DDR3 1600 MHz
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    ASUS Xoner DG + SPDIF to 5.1 System + HDMI
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    Samsung 32" TV
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    1920 x 1080
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    Internal Crucial CT256MX100SSD1 256GB SSD, Seagate ST2000DM001-1CH1 2TB, External (USB3) Seagate Backup+ Hub BK SCSI Disk 8TB 2.5/3.5 Hot Swap Cradle, USB3 + eSata (client HDDs) NAS 4TB
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    Aerocool Templarius Imperator 750W 80+ Silver
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    AeroCool X-Warrior Red Devil Tower
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    Hyper103 CPU, Rear 120mm, Front 2x120mm, Side 2x120mm
    Internet Speed
    68 MB Down 18.5 MB Up
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    Six Sensor Auto / Manual Digital cooling (Fan) control with Touch control Panel
Hi miles,

There is at least one Linux distro (maybe Ubuntu, but don't quote me :) ), that allows you to boot from within windows and run as an application on top of windows, just like Win9.x and DOS

Yup, I think there were quite a few distros that would let you do that. Plus there's VMWare type stuff etc.. I did some Linux for awhile but I haven't kept up with it.

What I really wanted was a kick-ass desktop with lots of disk space and ram running VMS. I got to play around with one for a little while. It was pretty cool. The VAX assembler is very similar to 80x86. From what I've heard those systems made things easy. That's why I often say a lot of these PC problems have already been solved. Just nobody wants to get stuff that "wasn't done here" unless they have no choice.

From what I was told by someone who serviced the Dec minicomputers both hw and sw configuration, decades before "plug & play," on a Vax system, you could hook up all kinds of HD and tape systems and when all the hardware was hooked up you entered like one command... something like
SYS$SYSGEN config /all
and the computer would come up, recognize and configure all the devices correctly.

I'm not privy to how it handled HD at the low level but I know they didn't have the drive letter reassignment nightmare we are still stuck with, on those machines. I seem to remember drives had a short serial number or some alphanumeric id like D1533 or something, but the OS let you assign a user friendly alias, like MainDrive or whatever you wanted that wasn't already in use.


The thing I don't understand is why Windows doesn't steal the "boot into the OS on hd from floppy/CD" mechanism from Linux. Really handy if your boot management got hosed, just stick in the boot floppy and boot into the Linux installed on the HD. Then you had tools running to fix the boot management problem. You'd think it would have occurred to somebody by now? Go figure. :)
 

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    Some Radeon Cheapie with 512 MB Ram
    Monitor(s) Displays
    CRT
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    750 GB SATA 3G 2 SIIG Superspeed docks w/WD Caviar Black Sata II or III
but i have only 1 hard rive. new pc have like 3 sata drives. i have a old er one. will it work?
 

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  • CPU
    amd 64x2 4200+ 2.2ghz per core
    Motherboard
    ECS NETTLE
    Memory
    3 gb
    Graphics card(s)
    nvdia 6150se nforce 430(old rig, upgrading)
    Sound Card
    reltrek hd audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    hp w1907
    Screen Resolution
    1440x968/1024x768
    Hard Drives
    320gb
    PSU
    upgrading, Coolmax CA-450 450watts
    Case
    hp casing
    Cooling
    defult..
    Mouse
    hp
    Keyboard
    hp
    Internet Speed
    768kbps down and 128 up...very slow..
    Other Info
    not great compared to other people..
How old is your PC? If it only ha IDE connecters, then I think you can only do 4 drives max. Thats 2 HDD's and 2 CD/DVDs or 4 HDDs.

If you have one with SATA connections, then you can put in as many as you have connections.

~Lordbob
 

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    Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 2.33GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS P5QC
    Memory
    2x2GB
    Graphics card(s)
    NVidia GeForce 9500GT 1Gb
    Sound Card
    Mobo
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster 206bw
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SP2514N ATA 250Gb 7200RPM Samsung [Model] 1Tb 7200RPM SATA2
    PSU
    Cooler Master Real Power Pro 750W
    Mouse
    Razer Lachesis
    Keyboard
    Razer Tarantula
    Internet Speed
    not fast enough
my pc was made in 2006. hp a6042n
 

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System One

  • CPU
    amd 64x2 4200+ 2.2ghz per core
    Motherboard
    ECS NETTLE
    Memory
    3 gb
    Graphics card(s)
    nvdia 6150se nforce 430(old rig, upgrading)
    Sound Card
    reltrek hd audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    hp w1907
    Screen Resolution
    1440x968/1024x768
    Hard Drives
    320gb
    PSU
    upgrading, Coolmax CA-450 450watts
    Case
    hp casing
    Cooling
    defult..
    Mouse
    hp
    Keyboard
    hp
    Internet Speed
    768kbps down and 128 up...very slow..
    Other Info
    not great compared to other people..
It should have at least two SATA ports, in addition to two IDEs and maybe even some more SATA ports. I bought a cheap (200) computer that was maybe three years old now, and it had like 5 SATA ports. So you should be able to add like 4 HDD's.

~Lordbob
 

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  • Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 2.33GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS P5QC
    Memory
    2x2GB
    Graphics card(s)
    NVidia GeForce 9500GT 1Gb
    Sound Card
    Mobo
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster 206bw
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SP2514N ATA 250Gb 7200RPM Samsung [Model] 1Tb 7200RPM SATA2
    PSU
    Cooler Master Real Power Pro 750W
    Mouse
    Razer Lachesis
    Keyboard
    Razer Tarantula
    Internet Speed
    not fast enough
do u have a [ppicture of it?
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    amd 64x2 4200+ 2.2ghz per core
    Motherboard
    ECS NETTLE
    Memory
    3 gb
    Graphics card(s)
    nvdia 6150se nforce 430(old rig, upgrading)
    Sound Card
    reltrek hd audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    hp w1907
    Screen Resolution
    1440x968/1024x768
    Hard Drives
    320gb
    PSU
    upgrading, Coolmax CA-450 450watts
    Case
    hp casing
    Cooling
    defult..
    Mouse
    hp
    Keyboard
    hp
    Internet Speed
    768kbps down and 128 up...very slow..
    Other Info
    not great compared to other people..
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