Opinions needed

amplid

amplid

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Hey guys, I just wanted to ask your opinions on a system I'm building (well the first one ever atually, but I've been poking around in my current system already:D). I'm building it for my grandfather so nothing too fancy, but I'd like you guys to comment and help me improve it maybe:)
Here it is: (sorry for the dutch;))



And also I wanted to know something about accesories: Obviously I'm using an anti-static wrist band and all those precautions, but things like that paste you put on top of your CPU, is it really necessary, or will my CPU fan cool enough without it?

Can't wait to see replies;),

Amplid
 

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My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    Intel Q9550 @ 3.2 GHz (for now)
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Striker 2 Extreme
    Memory
    2 x 2Gb Patriot DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    XFX GeForce 9800 GTX+
    Sound Card
    Creative Supreme FX 2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Neovo F417 17''
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SP2504C SATA 7200rpm
    PSU
    Pc Power & Cooling 750
    Case
    Coolermaster CM 690
    Cooling
    6 120mm's, Xigmatek HDT 1283 with crossbow backplate
    Keyboard
    Logitech G11
    Mouse
    Logitech Cordless Trackman Wheel
    Internet Speed
    ~1000 Kb/sec
Oh and also, does anyone know an equivalent for newegg that ships to Europe? Pretty important that is:p

I just checked the mobo manual and apparently I can't install but two system fans. Am I right saying that that means trouble with that COSMOS 1000 case?

Thanks in advance as always;)

Amplid
 
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My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    Intel Q9550 @ 3.2 GHz (for now)
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Striker 2 Extreme
    Memory
    2 x 2Gb Patriot DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    XFX GeForce 9800 GTX+
    Sound Card
    Creative Supreme FX 2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Neovo F417 17''
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SP2504C SATA 7200rpm
    PSU
    Pc Power & Cooling 750
    Case
    Coolermaster CM 690
    Cooling
    6 120mm's, Xigmatek HDT 1283 with crossbow backplate
    Keyboard
    Logitech G11
    Mouse
    Logitech Cordless Trackman Wheel
    Internet Speed
    ~1000 Kb/sec
Yes, I've checked it by now and indeed...:p
Thanks Clevo, any thoughts on the system (if you've the time;))

Greetings,

Amplid
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    Intel Q9550 @ 3.2 GHz (for now)
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Striker 2 Extreme
    Memory
    2 x 2Gb Patriot DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    XFX GeForce 9800 GTX+
    Sound Card
    Creative Supreme FX 2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Neovo F417 17''
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SP2504C SATA 7200rpm
    PSU
    Pc Power & Cooling 750
    Case
    Coolermaster CM 690
    Cooling
    6 120mm's, Xigmatek HDT 1283 with crossbow backplate
    Keyboard
    Logitech G11
    Mouse
    Logitech Cordless Trackman Wheel
    Internet Speed
    ~1000 Kb/sec
As I doubt your grandfather will be playing many videogames, I would suggest a fanless videocard to keep noise levels down. But looks good to me otherwise.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    HP tx2000z
    CPU
    AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-68 Gold Edition
    Motherboard
    Quanta 305E/nVidia nForce 430
    Memory
    4096MB DDR2 PC2-5300 @ 5-5-5-15
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GeForce Go 6150 64MB
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio/Altec Lansing
    Hard Drives
    250GB 5400RPM SATA
    PSU
    8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
    Case
    HP Echo tx2000z
Hmm that's right, but on the other hand, I stay at my grandfather's quite often and I don't think noise will bother him compared to the system he's currently got...:p

Cheers,

Amplid
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    Intel Q9550 @ 3.2 GHz (for now)
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Striker 2 Extreme
    Memory
    2 x 2Gb Patriot DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    XFX GeForce 9800 GTX+
    Sound Card
    Creative Supreme FX 2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Neovo F417 17''
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SP2504C SATA 7200rpm
    PSU
    Pc Power & Cooling 750
    Case
    Coolermaster CM 690
    Cooling
    6 120mm's, Xigmatek HDT 1283 with crossbow backplate
    Keyboard
    Logitech G11
    Mouse
    Logitech Cordless Trackman Wheel
    Internet Speed
    ~1000 Kb/sec
So what you are saying is that the old fellow is a wee bit deaf lol?

Make sure you put this site in the tool bar of Granddads browser so he will know where to come for help when you are finished :p.

Seriously though lol, if you are using a new processor, it will come with the paste on the fan. But the silver paste is really cheap and even the smallest package is more than you will probably ever use. I'd let you have mine tube if you lived close by.

You should have no problems as you seen like a rather bright young person. If you have changed out parts then you already are on your way, that's all I ever did before I built this system. Of course I credit 90% of my limited success to finding this site and the smart folks on it to carry me through my mistakes .............

One tip that may sound really stupid but.......... make sure that the screwdrivers you use don't have magnetized tips. Most screwdrivers sold (in the US anyways) have them. I almost messed up that way........
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    Intel Core2Quad Q9450
    Motherboard
    nForce 790i Ultra SLI(evga)
    Memory
    8 GB DDR3 1333MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    2 e-GeForce 9800GX2(SLI mode)
    Hard Drives
    WD1500AHFD
    (Raptor 150 GB 10,000 RPM)
I don't have microsoft word in my new system yet.. so I coulnd't look at your system specs you attached..

but yes the thermal Paste is very important.. also, some places to put an X on the CPU, some say to put a line down entire thing.. don't use that much.

on both my dual core AMD 2.8, and my new Quad core Q6700.. I only put a tiny bit.. like the size of a UNCOOKED grain of Rice.. so pretty small.. some people spread it around with there finger.. don't do that either. just maybe mush it down a little bit with the head of the tube.. but for the most part the CPU coolers weight from bein tightened down will be enough force to spread it.. I wouldn't even touch it.. just so no oils get on it..

a small amount is all thats needed.. same with changing a FAN on a video card.. i used a tiny bit also and it helped about 10 degree's celsius.

how about in a post type what system your building
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    Q9650 E0 4.0 GHz @1.304v
    Motherboard
    eVGA 750i FTW
    Memory
    2x2GB Corsair Dominator PC2-8500C5D
    Graphics Card(s)
    eVGA/MSI GTX 260 SLI
    Sound Card
    X-Fi XtremeGamer
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung T240 & 226BW
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1200 & 1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Cuda 500GB 32mb Cache SATA 7200.(11) + 500GB Seagate Cuda External eSATA, USB, FW400
    PSU
    PC P&C 750w Silencer PSU
    Case
    CoolerMaster HAF 932 (Water-Cooled)
    Cooling
    Plenty of Fans, and a few 230mm Fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech G11
    Mouse
    Logitech MX-518
    Other Info
    ASUS 20x Optical, Bose Companion 3, ATH-AD500 Cans :), Patriot Xporter 16GB Flash Drive (Very Fast), & Sandisk Micro 8GB.

    Nikon D40 DSLR with 18-105mm VR & 55-200mm VR
I'm with Gunther, I haven't done word yet either so I couldn't read your file. But gunther? THAT small? I smeared the crap all over, and no, i didn't use my finger OR touch it with the tip to the CPU.
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    Intel Core2Quad Q9450
    Motherboard
    nForce 790i Ultra SLI(evga)
    Memory
    8 GB DDR3 1333MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    2 e-GeForce 9800GX2(SLI mode)
    Hard Drives
    WD1500AHFD
    (Raptor 150 GB 10,000 RPM)
Curious about the need for a network card when this one has gigabit ethernet on it already (Realtek 8111B chip (10/100/1000 Mbit)? Save a few Euros/Dollars, or are those rather less than adequate.. Other than that... looks good here... :)
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    Athlon 3700+ 2.2
    Motherboard
    Abit AN8 32x
    Memory
    3gig
    Graphics Card(s)
    Dual SLI GForce 6800 GS
    Hard Drives
    2 SATA 320 gig Barracuda drives running XP Pro and Vista Ultimate each on its own drive
well it will work, but not very well.. any aftermarket wireless card will work better, and pickup a more stable line.. Get a N series also.. like a Netgear 802.11 N not G but N.. N router and Card.. N's the best right now, but if you don't need the best.. than G is good.

and Bubba.. ya, thats all you need. I might possibly need a lil more cuz It's a quad core.. but i heard thats all you need.. it worked WONDERS on my AMD 5400+ 2.8 it idles around 19 degrees.. thats pretty good.

and on the actual website for the BEST thermal paste.. Artic silver 5.. they say use that same amount. the size of a uncooked grain of rice.. thats all they say to use.. or to use the same size.. but a little longer. for quad core.. a small line, but by no means from one side to the other
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    Q9650 E0 4.0 GHz @1.304v
    Motherboard
    eVGA 750i FTW
    Memory
    2x2GB Corsair Dominator PC2-8500C5D
    Graphics Card(s)
    eVGA/MSI GTX 260 SLI
    Sound Card
    X-Fi XtremeGamer
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung T240 & 226BW
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1200 & 1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Cuda 500GB 32mb Cache SATA 7200.(11) + 500GB Seagate Cuda External eSATA, USB, FW400
    PSU
    PC P&C 750w Silencer PSU
    Case
    CoolerMaster HAF 932 (Water-Cooled)
    Cooling
    Plenty of Fans, and a few 230mm Fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech G11
    Mouse
    Logitech MX-518
    Other Info
    ASUS 20x Optical, Bose Companion 3, ATH-AD500 Cans :), Patriot Xporter 16GB Flash Drive (Very Fast), & Sandisk Micro 8GB.

    Nikon D40 DSLR with 18-105mm VR & 55-200mm VR
You'll be fine with the Gigabit Ethernet really, no need to go wireless unless you want to. Wireless isn't more stable than a hardwired system...wireless is always susceptible to interference, and it's definitely not faster by default.

Artic Silver 5 is the Best grease to use and I recommend you also use the Artic Silver Cleaner compound also. I've built over 50 machines and most builders will cover the CPU heatspreader with a very thin layer, then lightly twist and rub the 2 surfaces together while installing the cooler to ensure a good bond between them. Arctic Silver used to recommend using a small piece of hard plastic to spread the grease on the surfaces, some types come with a small brush to do this.

Arctic Silver now states that their studies show that by applying a rice grained size of grease to the center of the CPU heatspreader and then mating the 2 surfaces with the twisting motion, the most critical area of the surfaces will be covered and will work. I still prefer to spread over the entire surface as all the thermal contact you can get will only be better, not worse. The only reason that Arcic Silver has changed this is because too many people were NOT following proper anti-static procedures and killed their CPU's, so they studied the best way to do it without physically touching the CPU heatspreader.
VERY THIN layer tho, like really thin, but remember to twist-mate the surfaces together to get the best contact.

Arctic Silver Thermal Grease Application Instructions
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Personal Build
    CPU
    Intel E6750 Core 2 Duo
    Motherboard
    Asus Commando MoBo (P965/ICH8R)
    Memory
    4G's Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR2 PC26400 RAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    BFG 8800GTS OC2 320MB
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster X-FI Platinum FATAL1TY (next)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x 22" w2207 LCD Monitors
    Screen Resolution
    1- 1680 x 1050, 1 - 1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    3 x 500G SATA II WD Caviar HDD's
    PSU
    EnerMax NoiseTaker II 600W
    Case
    NZXT Lexa Classic (modified, dual doored & windowed)
    Cooling
    Zalman 9700 CPU cooler, 4-120mm fans, 1-90mm
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical Trackman trackball
    Other Info
    NZXT Lexa Classic Case, Zalman 9700 CPU Cooler, 2 DVD Burners c/w LightScribe (Sony, TSST), Enermax NoiseTaker II 600W PSU with Custom Chrome cable sleeving, Hauppauge HDTV TV Tuner Card, 5.1 Logitech Z5500 speakers, 15 in 1 Multi-card reader
amplid said:
Oh and also, does anyone know an equivalent for newegg that ships to Europe? Pretty important that is:p

I just checked the mobo manual and apparently I can't install but two system fans. Am I right saying that that means trouble with that COSMOS 1000 case?

Thanks in advance as always;)

Amplid
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I have Cosmos 1000 and I plug my fans directly into mother board. By the way you connect two fans and use only one fan plug.... ( thats for the top 2 fans)
Other I have plugged in spare USB port connectors

As for your Video card I would go something like 8800GT S or X. With power supply make sure you put it fan facing down rather than up because it is sucking cold air to cool you PSU, I have done that with mine
 
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My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    Q6600
    Motherboard
    MSI P36 NEO2
    Memory
    4GB 5-5-5-12
    Graphics Card(s)
    8800GTS 512Mb Overclocked
    Sound Card
    5.1 surround sound
    Hard Drives
    500Gb Samsung SATAII XP
    500GB Samsung SATAII
    PSU
    1000W CoolerMaster power supply
    Case
    CoolerMaster Cosmos 1000 case
    Cooling
    120mm ThermalTake Big Typhoon CPU cooler, 3 x 120mm exhaust
    Keyboard
    Wireless Keyboard and mouse 3000
    Other Info
    1TB WD My Book Office edition external drive x 2, Dual layer LG DVD-Rom burner,
    15 in 1 card reader
    Triple boot: XP, Vista Ultimate 64 and Windows 7 Ultimate 64
Glad to hear about the Arctic Silver. In my gross stupidity (seriously lol) that's what I bought and used. Is there such a thing as too much?
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    Intel Core2Quad Q9450
    Motherboard
    nForce 790i Ultra SLI(evga)
    Memory
    8 GB DDR3 1333MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    2 e-GeForce 9800GX2(SLI mode)
    Hard Drives
    WD1500AHFD
    (Raptor 150 GB 10,000 RPM)
Are we talking about the goo that goes between the CPU cooler/fan and the CPU? If so...my CPU cooler already had some of that on it...so I just used that.... Should I have bought extra? :S
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    Q6600 @ 3.4GHz
    Motherboard
    EVGA 780i
    Memory
    8GB OCZ Fatal1ty DDR2 800 (PC26400)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GTX 280 superclocked edition
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Westinghouse
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1200
    Hard Drives
    750GB Seagate Barracuda
    PSU
    ePower 850W Zumax x4 series
    Case
    XCLIO A380PLUS Case
    Cooling
    Artic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
    Keyboard
    Razer Lycosa Mirror
    Mouse
    Razer Lachesis
    Internet Speed
    DSL
    Other Info
    Razer Carcharias Gaming Headset
    &
    Razer Destructor Mousepad w/ eXactRest
Haha indeed Bubba, and that I was going to do anyway (even though his English is not the best:p). And I used to not even dare to get into my own pc before I found this forum... So thanks vistaforums!

Okay moving on...
The specs on the system are:

Mobo: Gigabyte GA-EP35-DSR3
GPU: EVGA Geforce 6800 GS 256 Mb
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint T Series 320 Gb
Memory: Crucial 4Gb (2x2Gb) DDR2 PC 6400, 240-pin DIMM
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo, E6850 Conroe, 3.0 GHz
Case: Rosewill R-5717 + PSU 450W
Optical drive: Pioneer 20x DVD burner
OS: Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit

Hmm that would be quite silly indeed, that's the little hints I need Lid8nhx (even if they make me look like a complete retard...) Thanks;)

So here you go Bubba and Gunther (and I won't forget the paste;))

Ampid
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    Intel Q9550 @ 3.2 GHz (for now)
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Striker 2 Extreme
    Memory
    2 x 2Gb Patriot DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    XFX GeForce 9800 GTX+
    Sound Card
    Creative Supreme FX 2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Neovo F417 17''
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SP2504C SATA 7200rpm
    PSU
    Pc Power & Cooling 750
    Case
    Coolermaster CM 690
    Cooling
    6 120mm's, Xigmatek HDT 1283 with crossbow backplate
    Keyboard
    Logitech G11
    Mouse
    Logitech Cordless Trackman Wheel
    Internet Speed
    ~1000 Kb/sec
Hmm that's good tip chappy, thanks.

Acdcfan if the top fans are on one plug then I should indeed be ok, but I've changed the case already because it's just too noisy for grandpa with all those fans:p

Amplid
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    Intel Q9550 @ 3.2 GHz (for now)
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Striker 2 Extreme
    Memory
    2 x 2Gb Patriot DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    XFX GeForce 9800 GTX+
    Sound Card
    Creative Supreme FX 2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Neovo F417 17''
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SP2504C SATA 7200rpm
    PSU
    Pc Power & Cooling 750
    Case
    Coolermaster CM 690
    Cooling
    6 120mm's, Xigmatek HDT 1283 with crossbow backplate
    Keyboard
    Logitech G11
    Mouse
    Logitech Cordless Trackman Wheel
    Internet Speed
    ~1000 Kb/sec
Yes about the GPU acdcfan, I'm not going to hook my grandpa up with an 8800GTX (first of all because I don't want him to have a better GPU than me...:p) and second of all because I have a certain budget and he reaally doesn't need a card like that.

Thanks,

Amplid
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    Intel Q9550 @ 3.2 GHz (for now)
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Striker 2 Extreme
    Memory
    2 x 2Gb Patriot DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    XFX GeForce 9800 GTX+
    Sound Card
    Creative Supreme FX 2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Neovo F417 17''
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SP2504C SATA 7200rpm
    PSU
    Pc Power & Cooling 750
    Case
    Coolermaster CM 690
    Cooling
    6 120mm's, Xigmatek HDT 1283 with crossbow backplate
    Keyboard
    Logitech G11
    Mouse
    Logitech Cordless Trackman Wheel
    Internet Speed
    ~1000 Kb/sec
amplid said:
Yes about the GPU acdcfan, I'm not going to hook my grandpa up with an 8800GTX (first of all because I don't want him to have a better GPU than me...:p) and second of all because I have a certain budget and he reaally doesn't need a card like that.

Thanks,

Amplid
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Sorry man
I thought if was for you.... I read the post but I couldn't see grandpa anywhere....
In that case even Cosmos 1000 was an overkill.
No offense intended
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    Q6600
    Motherboard
    MSI P36 NEO2
    Memory
    4GB 5-5-5-12
    Graphics Card(s)
    8800GTS 512Mb Overclocked
    Sound Card
    5.1 surround sound
    Hard Drives
    500Gb Samsung SATAII XP
    500GB Samsung SATAII
    PSU
    1000W CoolerMaster power supply
    Case
    CoolerMaster Cosmos 1000 case
    Cooling
    120mm ThermalTake Big Typhoon CPU cooler, 3 x 120mm exhaust
    Keyboard
    Wireless Keyboard and mouse 3000
    Other Info
    1TB WD My Book Office edition external drive x 2, Dual layer LG DVD-Rom burner,
    15 in 1 card reader
    Triple boot: XP, Vista Ultimate 64 and Windows 7 Ultimate 64
Oh, no problem.. :) I had to look at the board specs to see if you had a gigabit ethernet connection before asking~~ :)
Sounds like a good set up indeed~~
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    Athlon 3700+ 2.2
    Motherboard
    Abit AN8 32x
    Memory
    3gig
    Graphics Card(s)
    Dual SLI GForce 6800 GS
    Hard Drives
    2 SATA 320 gig Barracuda drives running XP Pro and Vista Ultimate each on its own drive
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