Yay or Nay? Internet Explorer 8

[Pharaoh]

Not sure if there's already a thread here like this but I'll give it a shot.

I'm curious what opinions everyone has out there about IE 8 B2?

So far I've tried it two times. I installed it a few months back when I still had XP and didn't like it at all. Then, after I upgraded to Vista, I tried it again and still didn't like it, 2 months later. Top it all off, I couldn't revert back to IE 7 as easily. I had to completely do a System Restore in order to do so. What's even worse, is even though I did that, some things were all messed up from the process. So I just ended up re-installing Vista to fix it.

So now I'm completely anti-IE8. I love IE entirely. But it just doesn't seem ready yet. I know they're still working on it and is not due for official release until possibly November, however, is that still too soon?


Some features I disliked:

• Colored tabs. ew. hard on the eyes, what's going on? keep them all the same.
• Location bar drop down menu. wayyyy too complicated, and right about where I have my mouse when I click it to select a previous website I entered, a small delete button appears and many times I click that and then realize, crap I just deleted it - annoying.
• Compatibility Option. Okay what's with this? What are they changing that's making it INCOMPATIBLE with websites in the first place? Shouldn't it be compatible with all websites? Kind of annoying to have to even worry about that.

Features I do like:

• Crisper appearance. Pretty much the look of the tabs. I like how flatter they are and brighter and without having the colored tabs option on.
• Accelerators. I can see how this is going to get sloppy over time but choosing to be smart about it and keeping it simple, this is quite handy.
• Additional Security. Finally MS is stepping it up. I like the SmartScreen Filter and InPrivate Browsing add ons.

Feature I'm neutral on:

• Web Slices. I don't know. I have a thing about so much stuff running in the background literally, looking for information keeping you updated behind the scenes (like RSS feeds) hogging bandwidth. I hardly have any reason to concern myself with speed considering my connection but, I just don't like stuff running in the background. Plus, isn't this the same as RSS feeds. So now they're just giving you a pop up display when you mouse over it in your Favorites bar to show you more.

Seems like it's getting more trashy with all that kind of stuff. Like having toolbars. Toolbars are just "junk drawers" full of stuff for people to sift through. I like to keep it clean and organized.

However I can see how the Web Slices is handy if you keep it simple. Like for weather. Then when you mouse over it, it shows you 5 day forecasts. Or their example in their video for Ebay users. Me not being an Ebay person, I would never utilize that. So it's 50/50 on that one.
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Even when it is officially released, I'm not planning on upgrading to it for a while. Especiallly not until I know for sure that if I do, I can revert back to IE 7 easily, if I want to.

So those are my view points. I'm curious what others have to say.

 

[NormCameron]

I am not that keen on IE anyway. Seems whenever I use it I get overrun with spyware. I prefer Firefox which at least keeps my computer relatively clean.

 

[Pharaoh]

I am not that keen on IE anyway. Seems whenever I use it I get overrun with spyware. I prefer Firefox which at least keeps my computer relatively clean.

Interesting. I have never used a spyware program or virus program ever on my system and have never been attacked. Vista comes with Windows Defender, I know that. But I just upgraded. Before, having XP same scenario. I never had a virus or spyware program and never, never was attacked.

I wonder if you adjusted any of the security settings. I frequently always go into Internet Options to make sure ALL security and privacty settings are set to Default. That being done, I think that alone prevents a lot of stuff from happening. Most spyware and adware these days run using Active X controls or other types of Installers that if using the latest official release of Internet Explorer at it's default settings. prevents ANYTHING from running without your permission.

 

[Fumz]

Interesting. I have never used a spyware program or virus program ever on my system and have never been attacked.

That you know of.

Vista comes with Windows Defender, I know that. But I just upgraded. Before, having XP same scenario. I never had a virus or spyware program and never, never was attacked.

Again, that you know of.

I wonder if you adjusted any of the security settings. I frequently always go into Internet Options to make sure ALL security and privacty settings are set to Default. That being done, I think that alone prevents a lot of stuff from happening.

Wishful thinking perhaps?

Most spyware and adware these days run using Active X controls or other types of Installers that if using the latest official release of Internet Explorer at it's default settings. prevents ANYTHING from running without your permission.

Ethical hacking classes did not teach you that.

 

[NormCameron]

I'm not talking about viruses or really malicious stuff. Between Defender and my Anti-Virus I seem to be fairly well protected. It's more the nuisance adware I suppose, and I know that whenever my kids use the computer, they prefer IE, I have to clean it out, and, I seem to get a lot of spam emails. Because Microsoft is a big target and the most popular browser most malicious spyware or adware is targeted at IE. I am sure as Firefox is more widely acceptedit will become less resistant.

As a footnote . The only Spam Emails I get now are from the Vista Forums (JOKE: JOKE: JOKE: Please don't ban me)

 

[Pharaoh]

Interesting. I have never used a spyware program or virus program ever on my system and have never been attacked.

That you know of.

Vista comes with Windows Defender, I know that. But I just upgraded. Before, having XP same scenario. I never had a virus or spyware program and never, never was attacked.

Again, that you know of.

I wonder if you adjusted any of the security settings. I frequently always go into Internet Options to make sure ALL security and privacty settings are set to Default. That being done, I think that alone prevents a lot of stuff from happening.

Wishful thinking perhaps?

Most spyware and adware these days run using Active X controls or other types of Installers that if using the latest official release of Internet Explorer at it's default settings. prevents ANYTHING from running without your permission.

Ethical hacking classes did not teach you that.

Har Har Har. You're funny. I do know. I'm not that dumb.

 

[Pharaoh]

I'm not talking about viruses or really malicious stuff. Between Defender and my Anti-Virus I seem to be fairly well protected. It's more the nuisance adware I suppose, and I know that whenever my kids use the computer, they prefer IE, I have to clean it out, and, I seem to get a lot of spam emails. Because Microsoft is a big target and the most popular browser most malicious spyware or adware is targeted at IE. I am sure as Firefox is more widely acceptedit will become less resistant.

Well perhaps I will also point out one additional thing. With IE 7 I use MS's official add on called IE 7 Pro. Inside that, it comes with an Ad blocker and Flash blocker which I love. I absolutely hate Flash anymore all over the place and though it doesn't fully stop Flash from displaying, I just go into the Manage Add Ons feature and disable the active x control. If I really really need to see something in Flash I enable it all, but it's very rare I do.

Anyway, along with IE 7 Pro, you get a few other additonal features too that are handy but not needed.

Funny thing is with this, some of it is compatible with IE 8, but some of it not. So along with that, I choose to stay with IE7 until then.

 

[Fumz]

Interesting. I have never used a spyware program or virus program ever on my system and have never been attacked.

That you know of. Again, that you know of.

Wishful thinking perhaps?

Most spyware and adware these days run using Active X controls or other types of Installers that if using the latest official release of Internet Explorer at it's default settings. prevents ANYTHING from running without your permission.

Ethical hacking classes did not teach you that.

Har Har Har. You're funny. I do know. I'm not that dumb.

Then you know that your reply is non-responsive...

You're selling something. I get that. There's a place for salesmen in this world. I get what you're selling and I can appreciate why you're selling it... but, if you're not going to respond honestly, then why bother... the guys here are a lot sharper than you seem to be giving them credit for... which is insulting... and I probably don't have to tell a salesman that's it's generally not a good idea to insult the guy you want something from.... right?

We're all Vista users... go whore a MAC forum... be smart.

 

[Pharaoh]

That you know of. Again, that you know of.

Wishful thinking perhaps? Ethical hacking classes did not teach you that.

Har Har Har. You're funny. I do know. I'm not that dumb.

Then you know that your reply is non-responsive...

You're selling something. I get that. There's a place for salesmen in this world. I get what you're selling and I can appreciate why you're selling it... but, if you're not going to respond honestly, then why bother... the guys here are a lot sharper than you seem to be giving them credit for... which is insulting... and I probably don't have to tell a salesman that's it's generally not a good idea to insult the guy you want something from.... right?

We're all Vista users... go whore a MAC forum... be smart.

WHOA DUDE CHILL OUT! Are all these forums the same with the big headed geeks and technology nerds that they have to get instantly offended and defensive about their knowledge. I hardly know a damn thing other than as I stated, PERSONALLY I have not ever been attacked so therefore I do not see fit the means to use a virus program or spyware.

Is it some QUEST that there always has to be one person out there that has to come in and demote everything a person says just to gain some kind of satisfaction in being right or better?

Whatever. I could give a sh*t. I'm just talking about IE 8 here. Not how much you know, I know or whatever.

So go ahead and prove me right and reply back with something clever because what we all know here, is it's all about you.

And no, I'm not selling anything. But apparently, you are and it's all about how much you know, and everyone else doesn't.

Jesus.

 

[NormCameron]

Pharaoh, Settle down mate. These "big headed geeks and technology nerds" help a lot of people with serious problems, I haven't seen too much (if any) evidence of self promotion or grandstanding. This is only a forum, we don't take the chill-out room seriously, and neither should you. Just remember, you joined this forum because you had a problem and it was the "big headed geeks and technology nerds" who were willing to give you their time and knowledge for free. Try going to a Computer Tech for advice and see how much that will cost. Be cool. Life will work a lot better.

 

[Pharaoh]

Pharaoh, Settle down mate. These "big headed geeks and technology nerds" help a lot of people with serious problems, I haven't seen too much (if any) evidence of self promotion or grandstanding. This is only a forum, we don't take the chill-out room seriously, and neither should you. Just remember, you joined this forum because you had a problem and it was the "big headed geeks and technology nerds" who were willing to give you their time and knowledge for free. Try going to a Computer Tech for advice and see how much that will cost. Be cool. Life will work a lot better.

Oh I completely understand. I just don't need someone to go completely off topic with which I started and "demote" me as if I'm a complete retard. I'm just as much a nerd as any. I admit it. I do not promote myself however replying to each statement a person writes by typing "That you know of..." after it. Come on. Just leave it alone. What business is it of anyone's if I have ever been attacked or not. Since that is what this dude apparently cares about and typed like 2 or 3 times.

Anyway. Whatever. I'm done.

 

[Fumz]

Whatever. I'm done.

I'm sorry I could not help you resolve your issue.

 

[koch]

I don't think the issue was an issue to be resolved. Pharaoh just wanted opinions on IE8. I haven't installed it yet. I'm waiting to find a good reason to do so. I know there's more under the hood, but it seems to me the improvements are more cosmetic than anything else.

 

[Fumz]

I don't think the issue was an issue to be resolved. Pharaoh just wanted opinions on IE8.

Seemingly, yes. However, if one were to take a look at Phatroh's post over (oh i don't know) lets say the last 24 hours... a pattern emerges. If you're interested, you can go see it for yourself.

This forum doesnt' exist to sell. This forum exists to help. There's really nothing more to say on the issue. The guys who put time in here aren't paid and they aren't looking for a dollar, period. This is really the wrong place to sell the stuff we're here to help fix... it's offensive.. really offensive.

 

[rive0108]

I haven'y yet tried ie8.

 

[wysiwyg]

Pharaoh, I find if you use Beta versions you are effectively creating a rod for your own back, you cannot reasonably give a fair assessment of any Beta system without reservations as to what the final release will be.

Everything you said about it, only refers to the Beta version, but that gives no definite information on what the final release will perform like.

Don't condemn an unfinished product.

 

[koch]

I don't think the issue was an issue to be resolved. Pharaoh just wanted opinions on IE8.

Seemingly, yes. However, if one were to take a look at Phatroh's post over (oh i don't know) lets say the last 24 hours... a pattern emerges. If you're interested, you can go see it for yourself.

This forum doesnt' exist to sell. This forum exists to help. There's really nothing more to say on the issue. The guys who put time in here aren't paid and they aren't looking for a dollar, period. This is really the wrong place to sell the stuff we're here to help fix... it's offensive.. really offensive.

Honestly Fumz, I don't see what it is that he's selling. What pattern? Perhaps posts were deleted?