TurgidLeafMan
New Member
Hi guys I've been scanning the vista forums for a while now and must say that the advice and tutorials given here are by far the best that I've seen so I've come to you in the hope that someone has experienced this and actually managed to fix it.
Despite the fact that this is almost a repost in that so many people have complained of the same issue, I have tried all the fixes that I have seen suggested to others, and thusfar nothing has worked for me.
The Problem: After hitting restart or turning the machine on after shut down the screen remains black for anywhere from 5-15 minutes, after this the bootup runs as normal and takes around 50-60 seconds if that.
The problem started shortly after I installed Vista Home Prem. x64 on my new machine, originally the machine restarted fine, then after a few software installs of sound/gfx/mobo etc. drivers (and maybe sp updates), the reboot time suddenly skyrocketed (This was before any extra hardware installation and unneccessary software installation).
System Specs:
OS: Vista Home Prem. x64 SP1
Mobo: Asus P5Q-E iP45 Socket 775
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4Ghz (not overclocked)
RAM: 4gb PC2 (2x2)
GFX: NVidia GeForce GTX 260
SFX: Onboard
HDD x 4 :
1TB Maxtor Diamondmax 22 SATA (2 partition with system and drivers only on one)
200Gb Maxtor 6Y2 Sata (Added after Problems Started)
60Gb Maxtor 6Y0 Ide (No Data Stored) (Added after Problems Started)
1TB WD 10EAVS Sata (External) (Added after Problems Started)
Fixes:
1. Originally I wondered if the machine was just booting using one CPU so I tried a tutorial by Brink to make sure that all 4 were used. This affected the boot time only after the 5-15 min blank period.
2. Using 'Computer Management > Event Viewer > Applications > Service Logs' I looked for the eventid's beginning in the 100's, a few entries were present and one showed an unusually long time when running a facet of Media Centre. I have now stopped the .exe running on startup and taken control of the file and renamed it to be sure (not a vital .exe). This made no change to the Boot time
3. I cleared the logs and rebooted, now only 2 logs present. The only entry that seemed wierd was this:
BootTsVersion 2
BootStartTime 2009-01-19T10:53:38.671Z
BootEndTime 2009-01-19T10:57:14.079Z
SystemBootInstance 25
UserBootInstance 19
BootTime 47998
MainPathBootTime 34798
BootKernelInitTime 17
BootDriverInitTime 1560
BootDevicesInitTime 14331
BootPrefetchInitTime 28650
BootPrefetchBytes 407617536
BootAutoChkTime 0
BootSmssInitTime 12995
BootCriticalServicesInitTime 561
BootUserProfileProcessingTime 234
BootMachineProfileProcessingTime 2
BootExplorerInitTime 2403
BootNumStartupApps 7
BootPostBootTime 13200
BootIsRebootAfterInstall false
BootRootCauseStepImprovementBits 5242880
BootRootCauseGradualImprovementBits 4194304
BootRootCauseStepDegradationBits 0
BootRootCauseGradualDegradationBits 0
BootIsDegradation false
BootIsStepDegradation false
BootIsGradualDegradation false
BootImprovementDelta 9031
BootDegradationDelta 0
BootIsRootCauseIdentified true
The Boot start and end time show a 4 minute delay that seems to correspond to my problem (although I timed this restart at 8 minutes) but either no other info is given here or I just dont understand the info given here.
4. HDD removal - I started by removing the external drive and rebooting, no change, then unplugged each internal drive one by one (except the os drive obviously) and still no change
If anyone can shed any light on this it would greatly ease my pain, is there any way that I can test my RAM? also I dont reboot often but after a week of not rebooting I was told that my system memory was low so I couldnt play video files.
This seems kind of obvious after a week but my old single core cpu with 500mb of ram could stay on for months and have no problem. Now I have a high spec machine with 4gb ram and its playing up when under the same duress, I cant make sense of it.
One last question, I have 4 slots for RAM and I am using 2 of them, they are coloured yellow/black/yellow/black from left to right and my RAM is installed in the yellow slots. Should changing this around make any difference at all?
Thanks in advance for any and all advice
Regards
Despite the fact that this is almost a repost in that so many people have complained of the same issue, I have tried all the fixes that I have seen suggested to others, and thusfar nothing has worked for me.
The Problem: After hitting restart or turning the machine on after shut down the screen remains black for anywhere from 5-15 minutes, after this the bootup runs as normal and takes around 50-60 seconds if that.
The problem started shortly after I installed Vista Home Prem. x64 on my new machine, originally the machine restarted fine, then after a few software installs of sound/gfx/mobo etc. drivers (and maybe sp updates), the reboot time suddenly skyrocketed (This was before any extra hardware installation and unneccessary software installation).
System Specs:
OS: Vista Home Prem. x64 SP1
Mobo: Asus P5Q-E iP45 Socket 775
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4Ghz (not overclocked)
RAM: 4gb PC2 (2x2)
GFX: NVidia GeForce GTX 260
SFX: Onboard
HDD x 4 :
1TB Maxtor Diamondmax 22 SATA (2 partition with system and drivers only on one)
200Gb Maxtor 6Y2 Sata (Added after Problems Started)
60Gb Maxtor 6Y0 Ide (No Data Stored) (Added after Problems Started)
1TB WD 10EAVS Sata (External) (Added after Problems Started)
Fixes:
1. Originally I wondered if the machine was just booting using one CPU so I tried a tutorial by Brink to make sure that all 4 were used. This affected the boot time only after the 5-15 min blank period.
2. Using 'Computer Management > Event Viewer > Applications > Service Logs' I looked for the eventid's beginning in the 100's, a few entries were present and one showed an unusually long time when running a facet of Media Centre. I have now stopped the .exe running on startup and taken control of the file and renamed it to be sure (not a vital .exe). This made no change to the Boot time
3. I cleared the logs and rebooted, now only 2 logs present. The only entry that seemed wierd was this:
BootTsVersion 2
BootStartTime 2009-01-19T10:53:38.671Z
BootEndTime 2009-01-19T10:57:14.079Z
SystemBootInstance 25
UserBootInstance 19
BootTime 47998
MainPathBootTime 34798
BootKernelInitTime 17
BootDriverInitTime 1560
BootDevicesInitTime 14331
BootPrefetchInitTime 28650
BootPrefetchBytes 407617536
BootAutoChkTime 0
BootSmssInitTime 12995
BootCriticalServicesInitTime 561
BootUserProfileProcessingTime 234
BootMachineProfileProcessingTime 2
BootExplorerInitTime 2403
BootNumStartupApps 7
BootPostBootTime 13200
BootIsRebootAfterInstall false
BootRootCauseStepImprovementBits 5242880
BootRootCauseGradualImprovementBits 4194304
BootRootCauseStepDegradationBits 0
BootRootCauseGradualDegradationBits 0
BootIsDegradation false
BootIsStepDegradation false
BootIsGradualDegradation false
BootImprovementDelta 9031
BootDegradationDelta 0
BootIsRootCauseIdentified true
The Boot start and end time show a 4 minute delay that seems to correspond to my problem (although I timed this restart at 8 minutes) but either no other info is given here or I just dont understand the info given here.
4. HDD removal - I started by removing the external drive and rebooting, no change, then unplugged each internal drive one by one (except the os drive obviously) and still no change
If anyone can shed any light on this it would greatly ease my pain, is there any way that I can test my RAM? also I dont reboot often but after a week of not rebooting I was told that my system memory was low so I couldnt play video files.
This seems kind of obvious after a week but my old single core cpu with 500mb of ram could stay on for months and have no problem. Now I have a high spec machine with 4gb ram and its playing up when under the same duress, I cant make sense of it.
One last question, I have 4 slots for RAM and I am using 2 of them, they are coloured yellow/black/yellow/black from left to right and my RAM is installed in the yellow slots. Should changing this around make any difference at all?
Thanks in advance for any and all advice
Regards