PerfectDisk system file defragmenter

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frankzappa77

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I just reformated and noticed that it took Vista an average of 12 seconds for the boot screen to finish loading (I didn't count before or after that, just from when I see the green bar to when it finishes). After installing PerfectDisk 10 and doing an entire disk defragmentation, the time stayed about the same. But when I did a boot time defragment of my system files, the loading time for the boot screen actually increased to 40 seconds! I've rebooted about 5 times to measure the times and I've gotten up to 60 seconds as well!

Has anyone else who uses PerfectDisk had similar experience? Did the boot time get better over time or did it stay the same?

Also, in the program settings, it asks me whether I want PerfectDisk to manage my layout.ini file or if I want Windows to handle them; does anyone know which is preferred?
 

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    Intel Integrated GMA 950 256MB
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    200GB 5400rpm Toshiba MK2035GSS ATA-7, 250GB 7200rpm Maxtor External USB Hard Drive
You need to let Vista build the tracing files optimizing boot - and give PerfectDisk time to deal with content. Defragging is not rocket science, the scheme x program uses for layout can be. 1 defrag after a reformat wont be enough if PerfectDisk scheme is based on your usage of Vista.

Layout.ini is for prefetching files, feeds Superfetch which wont be optimal either yet, but if you mainly care for boot time look up Readyboot and check in windows/prefetch/readyboot folder. Those files speed up boot and Perfectdisk can probably work with both them and content. Might have own rules for that, like not doing anything before there are X tracing files or something.

I use JkDefrag so dont really know PerfectDisk but I think matter of time and you setting it up correctly. Read help file.

Btw, if you disable Readyboost, "increasing memory" through flash drives, you also disable Readyboot so dont.
 

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Also this tutorial shows how you can set Superfetch to only preload boot files. I get relatively fast boots while reducing HD access once booting is completed.
 

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    Phenom X4 9850
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    Some Radeon Cheapie with 512 MB Ram
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    CRT
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
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    750 GB SATA 3G 2 SIIG Superspeed docks w/WD Caviar Black Sata II or III
I did not like how Perfectdisk defragmented. I went with O&O Defrag and have had better success.
 

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SCSIraidGURU said:
I did not like how Perfectdisk defragmented. I went with O&O Defrag and have had better success.
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I'll try that out. I'm a bit cheesed now that it takes around 50 seconds just for that green loading bar to finish. It doesn't even seem like it's improving over time.

Is O&O a single-pass defragmenter or a multi-pass one? I never liked Diskeeper too much because it was a multi-pass defragger.
 

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    Acer Aspire 5630
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    Intel Core 2 Duo T5500 1.66GHz 65nm 667MHz FSB 2MB L2
    Motherboard
    Acer Grapevine Intel i945GM Chipset
    Memory
    2x1GB DDR2 333MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Integrated GMA 950 256MB
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.4" WXGA Acer CrystalBrite LCD 16ms
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    200GB 5400rpm Toshiba MK2035GSS ATA-7, 250GB 7200rpm Maxtor External USB Hard Drive
I recommend turning on boot logging.
Then look in \Windows\ntbootlog.txt

If you see it trying to load a bunch of drivers and those
files aren't even on your hd anymore, could be something
that left stuff in the registry when uninstalled. As example,
Norton internet protection or whatever it is. I had to download
the removal tool to get all the crap out of the registry. My reboot
time was 2 minutes. Now it's about 78 seconds(and that's for
Vista 64 bit. My Vista 32 bit reboot is about 10 seconds faster.)
 

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  • Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion m9515y
    CPU
    Phenom X4 9850
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Some Radeon Cheapie with 512 MB Ram
    Monitor(s) Displays
    CRT
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    750 GB SATA 3G 2 SIIG Superspeed docks w/WD Caviar Black Sata II or III
I'll try that MilesAhead, but I doubt it'll make a difference as this is a very recent install.

I remember my last install taking this long as well after defragmenting my system files with PerfectDisk 2008 at the time; but I never guessed the slow down was caused by that. My previous install was about 1.5 years old and the boot time never did decrease. Well at least I learned my lesson.

Question about that article you linked: if I only enable boot files, does that mean Superfetch will only preload boot files during boot or will it disable the preloading of programs once I log in? Because I want to keep the programs to be preloaded once I log in, because it makes a big difference.

Edit:
Code: 
 Service Pack 1 4  7 2009 21:09:45.375
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\hal.dll
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\kdcom.dll
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\mcupdate_GenuineIntel.dll
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\PSHED.dll
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\BOOTVID.dll
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\CLFS.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\CI.dll
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\Wdf01000.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\WDFLDR.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\sptd.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\WMILIB.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\SCSIPORT.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\acpi.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\msisadrv.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\pci.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\partmgr.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\compbatt.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\BATTC.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\volmgr.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\volmgrx.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\intelide.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\PCIIDEX.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\pcmcia.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\mountmgr.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\atapi.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\ataport.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\fltmgr.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\fileinfo.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\psdfilter.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\ksecdd.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\ndis.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\msrpc.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\NETIO.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\tcpip.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\fwpkclnt.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Ntfs.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\volsnap.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\spldr.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\psdvdisk.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\PSDNServ.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\mup.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\ecache.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\disk.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\CLASSPNP.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\crcdisk.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\tunnel.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\tunmp.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\intelppm.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\wmiacpi.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\dxgkrnl.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\igdkmd32.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\HDAudBus.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\NETw5v32.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbuhci.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbehci.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\bcm4sbxp.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\EMS7SK.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\sdbus.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ESM7SK.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ESD7SK.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\CmBatt.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\i8042prt.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\DKbFltr.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\kbdclass.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\SynTP.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mouclass.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\cdrom.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\NTIDrvr.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\GEARAspiWDM.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\ax7enlrf.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\msiscsi.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rasl2tp.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ndistapi.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ndiswan.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\raspppoe.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\raspptp.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rassstp.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\teamviewervpn.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\pcouffin.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\termdd.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\VBoxNetFlt.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\swenum.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mssmbios.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\umbus.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbhub.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\LVUSBSta.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\RTKVHDA.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\HSXHWAZL.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\HSX_DPV.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\HSX_CNXT.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\modem.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbccgp.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\LVUSBSta.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbscan.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbprint.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\hidusb.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\lvuvc.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\kbdhid.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mouhid.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Fs_Rec.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Null.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Beep.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\vga.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\RDPCDD.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\rdpencdd.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Msfs.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Npfs.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\rasacd.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\tdx.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\smb.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\aswTdi.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\afd.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\aswRdr.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\netbt.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\pacer.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\netbios.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\wanarp.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\VBoxUSBMon.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\VBoxDrv.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rdbss.sys
Loaded driver \??\C:\PROGRA~1\LAUNCH~1\DPortIO.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\nsiproxy.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\dfsc.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\aswSP.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\monitor.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\luafv.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\aswMonFlt.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\aswFsBlk.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\drmkaud.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\lltdio.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\nwifi.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ndisuio.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rspndr.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\HTTP.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\srvnet.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\bowser.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\mpsdrv.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\mrxdav.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mrxsmb.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mrxsmb10.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mrxsmb20.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\srv2.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\srv.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\srv.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\cdfs.sys
Loaded driver \??\C:\Windows\system32\drivers\int15.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mdmxsdk.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\peauth.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\secdrv.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\tcpipreg.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\xaudio.sys
Loaded driver \??\C:\Program Files\RMClock\RTCore32.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\fastfat.SYS
 
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My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 5630
    CPU
    Intel Core 2 Duo T5500 1.66GHz 65nm 667MHz FSB 2MB L2
    Motherboard
    Acer Grapevine Intel i945GM Chipset
    Memory
    2x1GB DDR2 333MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Integrated GMA 950 256MB
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.4" WXGA Acer CrystalBrite LCD 16ms
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    200GB 5400rpm Toshiba MK2035GSS ATA-7, 250GB 7200rpm Maxtor External USB Hard Drive
On Superfetch you're right. If you want the runtime prefetching then leave the default settings. On the defragger if you have past experience then unfortunately you're probably right. I only saw a couple of "failed to load" entries in your log. Doesn't look like mine.

The only free quick thing you may try is open an administrator commend prompt and enter

defrag C: -b

to defrag boot files. Even though it's not documented in Vista, it works same as XP defrag. It may help a bit with the boot time.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion m9515y
    CPU
    Phenom X4 9850
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Some Radeon Cheapie with 512 MB Ram
    Monitor(s) Displays
    CRT
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    750 GB SATA 3G 2 SIIG Superspeed docks w/WD Caviar Black Sata II or III
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