PC to TV Vista Issue

[Twist86]

Hello everyone I am having issues with Vista x64 Ultimate and my 8800GT.


Firstly I did a lot of reading on the forums here and on Nvidia's forum and no one seems to have my setup/issue and most said "thanks its fixed" on the NV forums without listing the actual fix so that was crappy

System Specs.

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 400x8- 3.2ghz
Evga 8800GT 512mb
2x2GB G-skill PC6400 DDR2 800
GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R LGA 775 Intel P45
TX750w Corsair PSU
Seagate ST3320620AS 7200RPM 320gb
Windows Vista Ultimate x64


178.13 is my current drivers.


I have windows defender/shadow drive/super fetch/firewall all that crap disabled and tweaked for performance and I am patched to the current updates for Vista.

I am wanting to hook PC to TV and am curious how to get around this.


I have a coax TV with nothing else so I use a old RF modulator I hook it up to the TV...then I take a 4 pin S-Video cable and hook it up to my 8800GT and the RF modulator. I then use a RCA red/white connector and adapter to hook from PC speaker jack to the RF modulator.

Now this works perfectly with my old XP Home and 7600GT system but it does not work at all with Vista/8800GT. Not even a screen flicker.


The issue starts I get the option of choosing single/clone/dual....I select Clone...I hit Apply then it flickers and is back to single. I do anything and it says "apply settings yes or no" no matter what I hit I lose clone/dual and all it shows is my PC monitor on Single.

I reboot and it is reset...rinse and repeat. Now I have tried old 175 drivers with no luck and this is using the same TV/wires so it should work.


Anyone have a clue what the issue could be?

 

[AstaLaVista]

Well, I have a clue but don't know if it will work for you since, to be honest, I seem to be able to use mine from time to time but deciphering what I did is a crap shoot.

Somehow, the only way for me to be able to view a movie or TV Show from my PC to my TV is by actually making the TV my primary monitor, of course, this means that I have a hard time getting to my icons and other stuff to pause, stop, FF or RW the clip I am watching.

Again, this is not a solution but I only have to run through this nigthmare whenever I want to watch the MotoGP races, otherwise, I just leave it alone since I don't have the patience to make it work for daily purposes.

 

[Twist86]

Well firstly thanks for the help but sadly I can't even get it to actually use my TV either way.

It gives me the option of monitor + TV at first then it disappears once I do anything such as clone or dual mode so I making it primary causes the same issue to occur.

 

[Twist86]

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[MrNeeds]

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can you tell me if you have a scart connector on the TV or RGB connections? if you have those, can you use them for connectivity? the adaptors come with the graphics cards and all you need is the yellow RCA cable to connect to your TV.

 

[Twist86]

Well due to my TV being older I don't have such connections all I have is coax which looks like this.
http://www.w-l-t.org/Pix/Coax w-F connector.jpg

To combat that I have a RF modulator looks pretty much like this.
http://www.moregadgets.ca/catalog/images/dvd647c.jpg

Now the only thing that came with my the GPU other then connectors for monitor was a RCA female blue/red/green to 7 pin S-Video cable.

Going to try using it see if that might be the issue as well.

 

[Twist86]

Well I just got done messing with the RCA female blue/red/green to 7 pin S-Video cable.

It worked out I have picture but its grey...I also can't keep my monitor resolution @ 1024x768 on clone without losing picture on the TV and the option to change picture/resolution is greyed out so I can't change it.

Its a step forward at least. I can live with having to re-arrange my icons and resolution each time I wanna watch my TV however need to figure out why I can't get color to my TV now.

 

[MrNeeds]

Well I just got done messing with the RCA female blue/red/green to 7 pin S-Video cable.

It worked out I have picture but its grey...I also can't keep my monitor resolution @ 1024x768 on clone without losing picture on the TV and the option to change picture/resolution is greyed out so I can't change it.

Its a step forward at least. I can live with having to re-arrange my icons and resolution each time I wanna watch my TV however need to figure out why I can't get color to my TV now.

it is a bit of a predicament, its not like british RF output cables, and on the RF modulator, are you setting it to a frequency that is not in use by non digital channels?

 

[Twist86]

Do you mean the signal in the control panel?

Only one I could get to work was under "component high definition" and on 480i SDTV. Anything higher I get a error with my monitor for "to high frequency"

Thing I find odd is my tv far as I know is not high def so not sure why it works on that setting.

Only other ones I tried was USA NTSC and Any NTSC under "S-Video" Going to go through all the other ones later once I get back home. See if any others will work.

 

[MrNeeds]

Do you mean the signal in the control panel?

Only one I could get to work was under "component high definition" and on 480i SDTV. Anything higher I get a error with my monitor for "to high frequency"

Thing I find odd is my tv far as I know is not high def so not sure why it works on that setting.

Only other ones I tried was USA NTSC and Any NTSC under "S-Video" Going to go through all the other ones later once I get back home. See if any others will work.

where do you live and what does your tv support? if your USA then NTSC should do the trick as these TVs are designed to run at 60Hz so greying shouldnt be present, if you have it set to NTSC and your using a 50Hz TV then thats why you have greying, try it at SECAM/PAL

 

[Twist86]

Well that is the strangest thing though...on my 7600GT and XP system what worked was S-Video ANY-NTSC and then I would go to video settings and go to TV and turn the color up to prevent my current grey screen.

I could also leave my monitor @ 1024x768 and the TV could have its own native resolution..monitor @ 75hz and TV @ 60hz made it work. Which I can't do on Vista currently.


Now the only setting that will work is the one I mentioned in my above post and I am unable to move anything for my TVs settings except for Saturation and Flicker both of which do nothing when moved to the TV.

Very confusing problem I have.


*edit*
I am from the US btw and I also have a Sansui TVS2541 but I am having issues finding information on it. Not the greatest of brands but lasted me 9 years now so I can't complain about its quality.

 

[Twist86]

Well I just updated to 181 drives for my GPU and it fixed some of the issues. I can now move the TV and Monitor to its own resolutions and I can change all color settings.

I am now locked to "s-video" option but I can't get the screen back.

When I move from USA - NTSC to Any - NTSC my TV flickers and I see a fully colored background for 1 second then it jumps back to white snow.

So now I just need to get my screen back and I am set.


Jumping to PAL gives me a 1 second grey screen then back to snow so I think NTSC is the option.

 

[panais]

The best way to connect PC+TV is HDMI to HDMI

I have 2 T.Vs connected in my:
Graphic Card: Ati Radeon HD 3870x2 hdmi 1080P
and they work perfect.
Monitor Samsung LE40A656F1 1080p 100Hz LCD HD TV 50,000:1 connected HDMI<->HDMI
and
LG32 lcd 32LB1R-ZE (clone)

 

[MrNeeds]

The best way to connect PC+TV is HDMI to HDMI

I have 2 T.Vs connected in my:
Graphic Card: Ati Radeon HD 3870x2 hdmi 1080P
and they work perfect.
Monitor Samsung LE40A656F1 1080p 100Hz LCD HD TV 50,000:1 connected HDMI<->HDMI
and
LG32 lcd 32LB1R-ZE (clone)

hes on an old tv, not even widescreen, CRT?

 

[Twist86]

Yeah old CRT...was made back in 2000 to give you a idea. Just your normal 30 inch TV.

 

[panais]

Yeah old CRT...was made back in 2000 to give you a idea. Just your normal 30 inch TV.

sorry for disappointing you but...
Doesn't worth the trouble.
I tried the same thing before 2 or 3 years with my old nvidia 128mb and my 28'' telefunken via rca,the picture was terrible,just terrible.

 

[Twist86]

Well the thing is it worked just fine on my old 7600GT and XP system. I don't demand perfect quaility but it beats trying to get comfy in a PC chair for 2 hours when I watch a movie vs 5 feet from me being a nice 80F water bed.

I am starting to think its not a hardware issue...I am wondering if all the anti-copyright crap Vista forced down our throats is the reason. Going to try installing XP on a spare HDD and see if I get better results.

 

[MrNeeds]

Well the thing is it worked just fine on my old 7600GT and XP system. I don't demand perfect quaility but it beats trying to get comfy in a PC chair for 2 hours when I watch a movie vs 5 feet from me being a nice 80F water bed.

I am starting to think its not a hardware issue...I am wondering if all the anti-copyright crap Vista forced down our throats is the reason. Going to try installing XP on a spare HDD and see if I get better results.

ok mate, sorry we couldnt help you, good luck with xp though :D

 

[Twist86]

No problem thanks for trying

I figure worst case I will upgrade to a LCD TV later.