Out Of The "STONE AGE"

[hdbg62]

Don't know, just don't about Vista and IE7; got all updates except SP1, did tweaking out the kazoo based on information obtained through here and other sites (haven't done that many registry backups in 10 years) and still I'm not too happy, mostly with Vista; I can put up with the pecularities of IE7 but find the constant restrictions, slowness and downright assinine behavior of Vista unacceptable; in fact I wish I had never gotten to this point. Now, I came out of the "Stone Age" as stated, from Windows 98SE, IE6, an AMD400 processor, 128MB Ram and 8 GB hard drive with Xanadoo 784 kbps wireless; but folks IT WORKED! I'm just an average internet user, no gaming, no mega downloads, just browsing, e-mail, an occasional fax and limited videos all of which I could do with more speed, ease and less complications than Vista is providing me with now. I graduated to a Dell, 500 Gig HD, 2 Gig Memory, Intel Core 2 4500 processor; hell, with a 22" LCD Flatpanel monitor for under $800.00 I thought it was a bargain! Now I wish I had spent just a fraction of that on a new motherboard (old one fried) and gone on for a few more years with that. Still, I'm very grateful for all the help from here (tutorials), tried SP1 (thanks, no!) and had my "insanity weeks" as another member had; restored to factory condition twice and am now wondering what will come next; certainly no SP1 for me, I finally can get all my external drives (USB) to show on the system and with tweak info from here there has been an improvement but overall I'm still disappointed. Sorry guys, just had to get this off my chest.

 

[SnarkyTwit]

Don't know, just don't about Vista and IE7; got all updates except SP1, did tweaking out the kazoo based on information obtained through here and other sites (haven't done that many registry backups in 10 years) and still I'm not too happy, mostly with Vista; I can put up with the pecularities of IE7 but find the constant restrictions, slowness and downright assinine behavior of Vista unacceptable; in fact I wish I had never gotten to this point. Now, I came out of the "Stone Age" as stated, from Windows 98SE, IE6, an AMD400 processor, 128MB Ram and 8 GB hard drive with Xanadoo 784 kbps wireless; but folks IT WORKED! I'm just an average internet user, no gaming, no mega downloads, just browsing, e-mail, an occasional fax and limited videos all of which I could do with more speed, ease and less complications than Vista is providing me with now. I graduated to a Dell, 500 Gig HD, 2 Gig Memory, Intel Core 2 4500 processor; hell, with a 22" LCD Flatpanel monitor for under $800.00 I thought it was a bargain! Now I wish I had spent just a fraction of that on a new motherboard (old one fried) and gone on for a few more years with that. Still, I'm very grateful for all the help from here (tutorials), tried SP1 (thanks, no!) and had my "insanity weeks" as another member had; restored to factory condition twice and am now wondering what will come next; certainly no SP1 for me, I finally can get all my external drives (USB) to show on the system and with tweak info from here there has been an improvement but overall I'm still disappointed. Sorry guys, just had to get this off my chest.

I'm sorry yer having so many problems. Seems to me, I recall people having troubles with win 98 when it first came out and again with windows xp. Whenever a new operating system comes out, there is some growing pains. I think in a couple years people will be lamenting the release of Windows 7 and wishing they could all go back to Vista. Just my 2 cents.

Snarks

 

[hdbg62]

Or maybe Vista will suffer the same fate as some of those between 98SE and XP editions did.

 

[sidney1st]

I graduated to a Dell, 500 Gig HD, 2 Gig Memory, Intel Core 2 4500 processor; hell, with a 22" LCD Flatpanel monitor for under $800.00 I thought it was a bargain!

I personally run Vista and never had any problems except when running Vista installed on Dell computers.
Each time i formatted the HDD including their "partition" and made a new install with unfortunately a new license.

 

[hdbg62]

"out Of The Stone Age" Redux

Seems like this time around installation of SP1 went flawlessly (I hope!). Put Windows in 'Selective Startup" downloaded and installed SP1 (a bit tedious) through Windows Update and I'll be d*#+%!, it worked; my external drives are visible and accessible and so far I see no glitches. Just don't understand what caused my external drives not to be recognized after the first try which by the way was not through Windows Update but through a Stand Alone Download of SP1.

 

[hdbg62]

Below I've listed a couple of ERROR and a couple of WARNING MESSAGES which now abound in EVENT VIEWER since the installation of SP1. Any comments would be appreciated. Geez, you could GOOGLE yourself silly with this stuff; there was life before VISTA!






ERROR:

Log Name: System
Source: Microsoft-Windows-HttpEvent
Date: 5/11/2008 19:29:43
Event ID: 15016
Task Category: None
Level: Error
Keywords: Classic
User: N/A
Computer: hdbg62-PC
Description:
Unable to initialize the security package Kerberos for server side authentication. The data field contains the error number.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-HttpEvent" Guid="{7b6bc78c-898b-4170-bbf8-1a469ea43fc5}" EventSourceName="HTTP" />
<EventID Qualifiers="49152">15016</EventID>
<Version>0</Version>
<Level>2</Level>
<Task>0</Task>
<Opcode>0</Opcode>
<Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2008-05-12T00:29:43.752Z" />
<EventRecordID>27929</EventRecordID>
<Correlation />
<Execution ProcessID="4" ThreadID="48" />
<Channel>System</Channel>
<Computer>hdbg62-PC</Computer>
<Security />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data Name="DeviceObject">\Device\Http\ReqQueue</Data>
<Data Name="SecurityPackage">Kerberos</Data>
<Binary>000004000200300000000000A83A00C00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000E030980</Binary>
</EventData>
</Event>


<Execution ProcessID="4" ThreadID="60" />
<Channel>System</Channel>
<Computer>hdbg62-PC</Computer>
<Security />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data Name="DeviceObject">\Device\Http\ReqQueue</Data>
<Data Name="SecurityPackage">Kerberos</Data>
<Binary>000004000200300000000000A83A00C00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000E030980</Binary>
</EventData>
</Event>


Log Name: System
Source: Microsoft-Windows-Dhcp-Client
Date: 5/11/2008 15:29:21
Event ID: 1002
Task Category: None
Level: Error
Keywords: Classic
User: N/A
Computer: hdbg62-PC
Description:
The IP address lease 192.168.1.64 for the Network Card with network address 001D098A33B7 has been denied by the DHCP server 192.168.0.1 (The DHCP Server sent a DHCPNACK message).
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-Dhcp-Client" Guid="{15A7A4F8-0072-4EAB-ABAD-F98A4D666AED}" EventSourceName="Dhcp" />
<EventID Qualifiers="0">1002</EventID>
<Version>0</Version>
<Level>2</Level>
<Task>0</Task>
<Opcode>0</Opcode>
<Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2008-05-11T20:29:21.000Z" />
<EventRecordID>27671</EventRecordID>
<Correlation />
<Execution ProcessID="0" ThreadID="0" />
<Channel>System</Channel>
<Computer>hdbg62-PC</Computer>
<Security />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data>192.168.1.64</Data>
<Data>001D098A33B7</Data>
<Data>192.168.0.1</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>



WARNING:

Log Name: Application
Source: Microsoft-Windows-User Profiles Service
Date: 5/11/2008 17:36:28
Event ID: 1530
Task Category: None
Level: Warning
Keywords: Classic
User: SYSTEM
Computer: hdbg62-PC
Description:
Windows detected your registry file is still in use by other applications or services. The file will be unloaded now. The applications or services that hold your registry file may not function properly afterwards.
DETAIL -
1 user registry handles leaked from \Registry\User\S-1-5-21-201424868-309763313-2130168460-1000:
Process 960 (\Device\HarddiskVolume3\Windows\System32\svchost.exe) has opened key \REGISTRY\USER\S-1-5-21-201424868-309763313-2130168460-1000
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-User Profiles Service" Guid="{89B1E9F0-5AFF-44A6-9B44-0A07A7CE5845}" EventSourceName="profsvc" />
<EventID Qualifiers="32768">1530</EventID>
<Version>0</Version>
<Level>3</Level>
<Task>0</Task>
<Opcode>0</Opcode>
<Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2008-05-11T22:36:28.000Z" />
<EventRecordID>3934</EventRecordID>
<Correlation />
<Execution ProcessID="0" ThreadID="0" />
<Channel>Application</Channel>
<Computer>hdbg62-PC</Computer>
<Security UserID="S-1-5-18" />
</System>
<EventData Name="EVENT_HIVE_LEAK">
<Data Name="Detail">1 user registry handles leaked from \Registry\User\S-1-5-21-201424868-309763313-2130168460-1000:
Process 960 (\Device\HarddiskVolume3\Windows\System32\svchost.exe) has opened key \REGISTRY\USER\S-1-5-21-201424868-309763313-2130168460-1000
</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>


Log Name: System
Source: e1express
Date: 5/11/2008 16:02:57
Event ID: 30
Task Category: None
Level: Warning
Keywords: Classic
User: N/A
Computer: hdbg62-PC
Description:
Intel(R) 82562V-2 10/100 Network Connection is set up for auto-negotiation but the link partner is not configured for auto-negotiation. A duplex mismatch may occur.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="e1express" />
<EventID Qualifiers="40964">30</EventID>
<Level>3</Level>
<Task>0</Task>
<Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2008-05-11T21:02:57.875Z" />
<EventRecordID>27792</EventRecordID>
<Channel>System</Channel>
<Computer>hdbg62-PC</Computer>
<Security />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data>\Device\NDMP2</Data>
<Data>Intel(R) 82562V-2 10/100 Network Connection</Data>
<Binary>0000040002003400000000001E0004A00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001E0004A0</Binary>
</EventData>
</Event>


Log Name: System
Source: Microsoft-Windows-Dhcp-Client
Date: 5/11/2008 15:30:34
Event ID: 1003
Task Category: None
Level: Warning
Keywords: Classic
User: N/A
Computer: hdbg62-PC
Description:
Your computer was not able to renew its address from the network (from the DHCP Server) for the Network Card with network address 001D098A33B7. The following error occurred:
The semaphore timeout period has expired.. Your computer will continue to try and obtain an address on its own from the network address (DHCP) server.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-Dhcp-Client" Guid="{15A7A4F8-0072-4EAB-ABAD-F98A4D666AED}" EventSourceName="Dhcp" />
<EventID Qualifiers="0">1003</EventID>
<Version>0</Version>
<Level>3</Level>
<Task>0</Task>
<Opcode>0</Opcode>
<Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2008-05-11T20:30:34.000Z" />
<EventRecordID>27677</EventRecordID>
<Correlation />
<Execution ProcessID="0" ThreadID="0" />
<Channel>System</Channel>
<Computer>hdbg62-PC</Computer>
<Security />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data>001D098A33B7</Data>
<Data>%%121</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>

 

[hkancyr]

I just got a Dell 530S for my TV and it runs fine. I added many programs and customized it to my liking and it is on my wireless N network. This being said, I have a few other computers with Vista that I cut my teeth on, and it wasn't all that wonderful of an experience. Now that I know what's up it is much easier.
Once you restore from the Dell partition get enough of your settings on it to get on the internet and get your email. Get all the updates for the hardware and OS. Mine needed a BIOS update which should have been done by Dell, but it shows that you have to check more things than you might think. I upgraded it (BIOS) through the Dell support software and it was quite easy.
Once you have it set up with no other software on it, use it like that for a while. It is going to act slow and use the HDD more than you really want it to as it indexes the disc.
If you try to install while it is getting itself together it may act even slower. This will be a good time to insure that you are using the latest installers for all your programs, which are hopefully Vista compatible. If you are trying to use your Win98SE stuff your misery will be exacerbated. Most things are compatible, if you go to the company site they will usually mention it.
Hardware is sometimes not compatible, due to no driver support. Sorry, but your printer or scanner may not work. I had to get a new scanner and printer, which was kind of cool because I could afford it at the time, if this is not your situation it will be less cool.
It's good you mention that you gave it a couple weeks, but your couple weeks starts again with each reinstall.
Sounds like you got a nice rig for a great price. Believe me it will run. Once it learns what you want from it, it will tailor itself to you.
Calling Dell tech support can sometimes be quite frustrating, I personally have given it up.
I hope this helps. I know you probably do some of this stuff already, but you never know.

 

[hdbg62]

The truth is that now every thing's running fine, much better than I expected after giving SP1 another try. And yes, I did use the Vista Compatibility Tool or whatever you call it to install WORD and EXCEL from my old OFFICE PRO edition without any glitches whatsoever, although I installed that on a second drive. I get the occasional IE7 crash, a blue screen once in a Blue Moon but keep getting these ERROR and WARNING notices in EVENT VIEWER. Info on some sites says to just ignore them if things are running o.k., perhaps that's what I need to do. I feel much better about VISTA and my system now that I have SP1 behind me and there's no way I am ever going back to "Factory Condition". Am with Xanadoo Wireless at the time (784kbps) but on speed tests am never doing better than 450-500; supposed to get AT&T Dry Loop tomorrow (up to 6Mbps), perhaps that'll make everything more enjoyable.

 

[hkancyr]

Awesome. Glad your experience has improved. Nice that MS makes sure you can use THEIR older software with Vista.