no vista disk what can i do?

kev duncan

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hi,
i recently bought a pc system with vista home premium already installed,
av got no disks relating to vista with my system.
iam planning to upgrade the memory,processor and graphics card but frightened if i do this will i lose vista when i connect the system back up? or how can a make a copy of my vista and put it on a disk??
any helps appreciated thanks.
 

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    430@ 1.80GHZ
    Motherboard
    ?????
    Memory
    1.00GB
    Graphics card(s)
    INTEL 82945G EXPRESS CHIPSET FAMILY
    Sound Card
    ?????
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ?????????????????????
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    ?????????????????????//
    Hard Drives
    ?????????///
    PSU
    ????????????????/
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    DESKTOP TOWER
    Cooling
    ???????????
    Mouse
    ???????????????????
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    ????????????????
    Internet Speed
    QUICK?
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    NOT 100% COMPUTER LITERATE BUT WILLING TO TRY.

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Self built
    CPU
    Intel E8400 3GHz
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    Intel DX48BT2
    Memory
    Kingston PC3-10666 4Gb
    Graphics card(s)
    XFX 9800 GTX XXX
    Sound Card
    Soundblaster X-Fi XtremeMusic
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2x Samsung SM-T220HD 22"
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    1680x1050 on two monitors
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    WD Raptor X/150Gb in RAID0 WD Raptor 36gb 3x Samsung F1 1Tb
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    Thermaltake ToughPower 850w
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    Thermaltake Armor
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    Tuniq Tower 120
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    Razer Diamondback 3G
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    Dell Multimedia Enhanced USB
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    Thermaltake Muse esata caddy
Hi Kev,

This took a bit of finding, so I hope it is what you are looking for. You will need to create an account if you want to follow the instructions in the link 'For more information on how to run the system recovery click here'.

Welcome to Recovery Media

For more information, click on the following in this order:

1) Support from The TechGuys
2) An extensive library of desktop guides
3) Ei System
4) E Series
5) E2xx
6) EiSystem E207

This brings you to the main EiSystem E207 information page. To create your own recovery DVD, continue by clicking on the following in the order given below:

7) Recovery
8) Windows Vista recovery DVD creator

Follow the instructions. If you cannot find the program, you can always type 'The TechGuys DVD' into the search box and run it from there.
 
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  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dwarf Dwf/11/2012 r09/2013
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    Intel Core-i5-3570K 4-core @ 3.4GHz (Ivy Bridge) (OC 4.2GHz)
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z77 Extreme4-M
    Memory
    4 x 4GB DDR3-1600 Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B (16GB)
    Graphics card(s)
    MSI GeForce GTX770 Gaming OC 2GB
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition on board solution (ALC 898)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic VA1912w Widescreen
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900
    Hard Drives
    OCZ Agility 3 120GB SATA III x2 (RAID 0) Samsung HD501LJ 500GB SATA II x2 Hitachi HDS721010CLA332 1TB SATA II Iomega 1.5TB Ext USB 2.0 WD 2.0TB Ext USB 3.0
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    XFX Pro Series 850W Semi-Modular
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    Gigabyte IF233
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    Microsoft Comfort Mouse 3000 for Business (USB)
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    Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 3000 (USB)
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    NetGear DG834Gv3 ADSL Modem/Router (Ethernet) ~4.0 Mb/s (O2)
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    Optical Drive: HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH10LS30 SATA Bluray Lexmark S305 Printer/Scanner/Copier (USB) WEI Score: 8.1/8.1/8.5/8.5/8.25 Asus Eee PC 1011PX Netbook (Windows 7 x86 Starter)
Hello Kev,

In addition to the above posts:

Does your computer have a D: Recovery partition that you can use to reinstall Vista with? If you do, then the OEM computer may have a way to also create a Vista Recovery installation CD/DVD of your own. You can use either one to reinstall Vista though.

However, if you are only upgrading those items, then you should not have to reinstall Vista. I would recommend that you uninstall the old video drivers before installing the new graphics card though.

Hope this helps,
Shawn
 

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    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
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    Custom
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    Intel i7-8700K 5 GHz
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    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
    Memory
    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
    Graphics card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung Odyssey G7 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2, 4TB Samsung 990 PRO PRO M.2, 8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
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    Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
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    Thermaltake Core P3
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    Corsair Hydro H115i
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    Logitech MX Master 3
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    Logitech wireless K800
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    1 Gb/s Download and 35 Mb/s Upload
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    Logitech Z625 speaker system, Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam, HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn, APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI, Galaxy S23 Plus phone
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    Windows 10 Pro
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy Y0F94AV
    CPU
    i7-7500U @ 2.70 GHz
    Memory
    16 GB DDR4-2133
    Sound Card
    Conexant ISST Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" UHD IPS touch
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512 GB M.2 SSD
Hi ken,

You may not need to reinstall with those changes - you will need a new product key if change your motherboard though. However, it worth getting organised so you can reinstall if and when you wish.

The first thing you need to do is get the Product ID and your Product Key
and write them down - they're long , so be careful to get them right.

Hit the Windows and Break keys on your keyboard together , and the System window will pop up - wait a few seconds and the Product ID will appear at the bottom of the screen. If it includes the letters OEM, then an OEM dvd was used to install Vista.

Download the free SIW from here www.gtopala.com

Run it, click Licenses in the left pane and it will recover your Product Key from the hard drive. It can tell you just about everything you have on your machine.

Check and see if there is a product key on a sticker anywhere on the machine - this may or may not be the same as the you one recovered from the hard drive.

Now you need to get hold of an installation dvd. There is no way of making one from an actual installed operating system as far as I know.

However, if there is a recovery partition on your hard drive, which contains files called WAU, it is easy to make one from that.

Microsoft will only do free (£6 shipping ) replacement dvd if you have the Retail version - you will have this if your product ID does not contain the letters OEM. If you have the Retail version , order a replacement dvd from here

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/1033/ordermedia/default.mspx

Or you can borrow a dvd and use your product key- and make your own dvd easily from the borrowed one. It does not need to be the same edition as yours - all the dvd's have all the editions on them, Basic, Premium, Business and Ultimate. It is your product key that determines which of them is installed.

However, the bit version is important - 32bit dvd can only install 32bit Vista, 64bit dvd can only install 64bit Vista.

If you have an OEM product key, you could ask the manufacturer - Dixons to send you a replacement dvd for a nominal fee - some of the big companies will do this.

When you have got your dvd and your product key ,which you need to install Vista - it will not activate if you have made too many major hardware changes since it was last installed, if so you will need to get a new product key from microsoft - they have a toll free phone line

Hope this helps

SIW2
 
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System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Vista
    CPU
    Intel E8400
    Motherboard
    ASRock1333-GLAN R2.0
    Memory
    4gb DDR2 800
    Graphics card(s)
    nvidia 9500GT 1gb
  • Operating System
    win7/vista
    CPU
    intel i5-8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    ballistix 2x8gb 3200
hi,thanks all for the replys which have been helpfull but as my systems 32bit with service pack 1 unfortunately when i enter the product key ect windows says there is no update available when i try to order the 64bit dvd?
is this because im lacking memory? but when i did the checks it does say that my system is 64bit compatable?
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    manufacturer-DIXONSXP,model-EI SYSTEMS 207
    CPU
    430@ 1.80GHZ
    Motherboard
    ?????
    Memory
    1.00GB
    Graphics card(s)
    INTEL 82945G EXPRESS CHIPSET FAMILY
    Sound Card
    ?????
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ?????????????????????
    Screen Resolution
    ?????????????????????//
    Hard Drives
    ?????????///
    PSU
    ????????????????/
    Case
    DESKTOP TOWER
    Cooling
    ???????????
    Mouse
    ???????????????????
    Keyboard
    ????????????????
    Internet Speed
    QUICK?
    Other Info
    NOT 100% COMPUTER LITERATE BUT WILLING TO TRY.
Hi Kev,

Did you click on the link to microsoft to get the free upgrade to 64bit ?

Unfortunately, they now only do this if you have the Retail product key .

Perhaps it didn't work because you have the OEM product key.

Open the system window and wait a few seconds for your product ID to appear ( this is not the same as your product key , but if it includes the letters
OEM then you have the OEM version ).

Hope this helps

SIW2
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Vista
    CPU
    Intel E8400
    Motherboard
    ASRock1333-GLAN R2.0
    Memory
    4gb DDR2 800
    Graphics card(s)
    nvidia 9500GT 1gb
  • Operating System
    win7/vista
    CPU
    intel i5-8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    ballistix 2x8gb 3200
Hi Kev,

Did you click on the link to microsoft to get the free upgrade to 64bit ?

Unfortunately, they now only do this if you have the Retail product key .

Perhaps it didn't work because you have the OEM product key.

Open the system window and wait a few seconds for your product ID to appear ( this is not the same as your product key , but if it includes the letters
OEM then you have the OEM version ).

Hope this helps

SIW2

hi yea it states to oem - thats why it aint working.
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    manufacturer-DIXONSXP,model-EI SYSTEMS 207
    CPU
    430@ 1.80GHZ
    Motherboard
    ?????
    Memory
    1.00GB
    Graphics card(s)
    INTEL 82945G EXPRESS CHIPSET FAMILY
    Sound Card
    ?????
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ?????????????????????
    Screen Resolution
    ?????????????????????//
    Hard Drives
    ?????????///
    PSU
    ????????????????/
    Case
    DESKTOP TOWER
    Cooling
    ???????????
    Mouse
    ???????????????????
    Keyboard
    ????????????????
    Internet Speed
    QUICK?
    Other Info
    NOT 100% COMPUTER LITERATE BUT WILLING TO TRY.
This isn't just for the originator of this thread, but for every PC user everywhere, who reads this forum.

Many people come to the internet help forums asking "How can I secure this barn door?" when their horse has already escaped. It's a bit late at that point.

Every computer user in the world who knows enough to come to a forum and go thru all the registration and posting rigors, should also know that they need to be making whole system backups on a regular basis.
If not, then I'm right here to tell them that they should!;)

With XP, a whole-disk backup could be done to a single DVD or large flash drive. An external HD is also a great place to store Drive Images.

With Vista, the job of backing up gets just twice as hard. Twenty gig's or more on the C: drive, with Vista, is common. No longer is a DVD or Flash Drive satisfactory for a Whole System backup.

With every electronics dept. in town selling external USB drives, finding one is getting easier all the time and the prices are coming down too, due to increased competition between manufacturers.

Now for the software to backup your HD. That too is getting easier and easier to find. FREE backup software is available (for FREE) all over the internet.

For Vista, there are several titles that I have tried and know to work very well indeed.
If you have either a Seagate or Maxtor Hard Drive in your system, the FREE software from Seagate in their "Seagate DiscWizard"
(corrected to comply with info from OldBloak)

package or from Maxtor in their "Max Blast" package works like a champ. Download and install the software on your HD, then use the software to make a Recovery (BOOT) CD.
Then you can delete the original software from your hard drive, to lessen the file load on the HD.

Both Symantec Ghost and Acronis True Image work great, but both are Retail Software. Both the Seagate and Maxtor software is actually the Acronis software, offered for FREE from those companies. The software is easily downloaded from their web sites.

I've been using Ghost 2003 for my system backups for years and it's worked great, but it can't deal with the new format that Vista uses for it's hard drives.
Ghost 11.5 answers this need. I backed up my own Vista HD this morning with Ghost 11.5 and saved the image file to a second internal HD.
Now, if I or some piece of software screws up my Vista drive, a quick Restore of that Backup file, puts everything back in order again.

I've been doing Ghost backups every week for years and have many backup images saved to DVD's. I can open any of those old backup image files with "Ghost Explorer" and recover any file that may have become corrupted or lost.

Keeping your system SAFE by doing regular backups is NOT an expensive or complicated process. What is does require, is a user/operator with the commitment to do backups OFTEN.


Cheers mates! (I hope this helps someone, somewhere to protect their own system)

The Shadow :cool:
 
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  • CPU
    AMD Athlon Dual Core 5200+
    Motherboard
    MSI K9N Platinum
    Memory
    4 gigs DDR2-800
    Graphics card(s)
    WinFast
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    19" Envision LCD
    Hard Drives
    2 Maxtor 160 gig SATA2 1 Seagate 200 gig SATA2
    PSU
    Antec Earthwatts 650
    Case
    Pac Man
    Cooling
    13 fans
    Mouse
    MS-Digital
    Keyboard
    Generic
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    Cable-5 meg
    Other Info
    Homemade, under constant mod.
I agree with you completely, TheShadow

Just one detail:
"Seatools" is Seagate's free disk testing and repair utility. Their excellent free program for saving backup images and making clones of the system (based on Acronis TrueImage) is Seagate DiscWizard
Seagate Technology - DiscWizard
 

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  • Manufacturer/Model
    home assembled
    CPU
    Intel Q9450 quad core
    Motherboard
    Asus P5Q Pro, Intel P45 chipset
    Memory
    4GB : 2 x 2GB G.Skill DDR2 800MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Gigabyte 9600GT
    Sound Card
    Realtek onboard the mobo
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BenQ 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    2 of Samsung HD501LJ SATA2 500GB and a few IDE hard disks on USB for backups
    PSU
    Corsair TX-650 and APC UPS
    Case
    Antec P180
    Cooling
    OCZ Vendetta2
I have hundreds of customers and so far I have only one Home user and two Corp. CEO's who do regular Ghost backups of their C: drive.

That's pitiful, to say the least.

But, I can only recommend and encourage backups. I can't Force anybody to do anything that they really don't want to do.

Years ago, when I went to work in our County's IT Dept as a computer operator and PC tech, I found that County-Wide, there were NO backups being made on any PC.

With the help of the IT manager, I instituted daily backups on every PC.
You should have heard the screams of agony from those old operators.

Almost every PC in the county, was sitting on the floor under a desk.
To say they were filthy dirty would be a gross understatement.:mad:

With the help from the IT manager, I got every PC up on a desktop or table, cleaned up and initiated daily data file backups.

This was all in 1990 and I've been saying, "Backup! Backup! Backup!" ever since.

Try it......you'll like it!;)

Shadow :cool:
 

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System One

  • CPU
    AMD Athlon Dual Core 5200+
    Motherboard
    MSI K9N Platinum
    Memory
    4 gigs DDR2-800
    Graphics card(s)
    WinFast
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    19" Envision LCD
    Hard Drives
    2 Maxtor 160 gig SATA2 1 Seagate 200 gig SATA2
    PSU
    Antec Earthwatts 650
    Case
    Pac Man
    Cooling
    13 fans
    Mouse
    MS-Digital
    Keyboard
    Generic
    Internet Speed
    Cable-5 meg
    Other Info
    Homemade, under constant mod.
I have hundreds of customers and so far I have only one Home user and two Corp. CEO's who do regular Ghost backups of their C: drive.

That's pitiful, to say the least.

But, I can only recommend and encourage backups. I can't Force anybody to do anything that they really don't want to do.

Years ago, when I went to work in our County's IT Dept as a computer operator and PC tech, I found that County-Wide, there were NO backups being made on any PC.

With the help of the IT manager, I instituted daily backups on every PC.
You should have heard the screams of agony from those old operators.

Almost every PC in the county, was sitting on the floor under a desk.
To say they were filthy dirty would be a gross understatement.:mad:

With the help from the IT manager, I got every PC up on a desktop or table, cleaned up and initiated daily data file backups.

This was all in 1990 and I've been saying, "Backup! Backup! Backup!" ever since.

Try it......you'll like it!;)

Shadow :cool:

shadow,
thanks for your reply but fortunately my pc was returned to store as it was found to be faulty.
unfortunately i am unable to discuss yet,but the store now has there pc returned and i have not recieved a refund so its trading standards.
will backup when i buy a fully working pc.
thanks.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    manufacturer-DIXONSXP,model-EI SYSTEMS 207
    CPU
    430@ 1.80GHZ
    Motherboard
    ?????
    Memory
    1.00GB
    Graphics card(s)
    INTEL 82945G EXPRESS CHIPSET FAMILY
    Sound Card
    ?????
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ?????????????????????
    Screen Resolution
    ?????????????????????//
    Hard Drives
    ?????????///
    PSU
    ????????????????/
    Case
    DESKTOP TOWER
    Cooling
    ???????????
    Mouse
    ???????????????????
    Keyboard
    ????????????????
    Internet Speed
    QUICK?
    Other Info
    NOT 100% COMPUTER LITERATE BUT WILLING TO TRY.
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