Indexing Problem

[Dick Blaine]

Indexing does not work and "in Control Panel, the Advanced tab is unavailable. The tab appears dimmed, and you cannot select it. Additionally, the Windows Desktop Search service does not start." I have tried several fixes suggested in the MS KB and in this forum but none helped me - all of the fixes seem to be pre-SP1.

My Vista system is: Factory Installed Vista Home Premium 64 bit SP1 with all updates on Gateway 4 core processor and less than three months in use.

When I start Wsearch manually it terminates in about 3 seconds then repeats this in a loop till I disable the service. Tries to remove old catalog and create new one - Fails
One error is 0x80040D23 (Event ID 3026)- insufficient system resources. - Hard to believe with 600GB disk and 6GB memory! Also Event IDs 1008, 1015, 1004 1008 and 7024, 7031 and finally 0x80071a91 appear in varous dialog boxes.


Event ID 1006: The Windows Search Service has failed to create the SystemIndex search index. Internal error <7, 0x80071a91, Failed to save Crawl Scope Manager changes:

 

[Brink]

Hi Dick, and welcome to Vista Forums.

Did you already try everything in this tutorial?

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/85803-index-windows-search-service.html

If so, then see if running a sfc /scannow command can help.

Hope this helps,
Shawn

 

[SCSIraidGURU]

I have a pair of E5430 quad cores, 16GB of RAM, and SAS drives. I setup indexing because I have 1.1 million files with all my A/V and CAD projects. It was running the drives non-stop. I disabled it. It was not worth the drive cycles to do it.

 

[Dick Blaine]

Many thanks for your help, Brink. Yes I had previously tried both. Again note that the toutorial is pre-SP1.

I checked my wife's identical computer and operating system and found a very different structure under microsoft\search\data. Unfortunaltely I am unable to paste the jpg I captured so I have attached it.

This is a SP1 system and the structure has change. See attachment for top level structure - much more detail within this structure.

So now, what do I do to recreate the index?

 

[Brink]

It's the same steps for before or after SP1. What matters though is if you installed the Windows Search 4.0 update or not when you get to STEP THREE.

You may need to do a System Restore though instead.

 

[Dick Blaine]

Brian, thanks again. Skipping the gory detail, I found that Search 4 was installed but the folder, C:\Users\User_Name\AppData\Local\Search\Data,
did not exist. So I uninstalled serarch 4, restarted, and reinstalled search 4 and restarted. This folder still does not exist! I do display hidden and system folders/files.

So, any more suggestions?

Follow up on message of several minutes back.

I check my wife's identical computer/software and found the same. Search 4 was installed on 1/28/08 - same date as my original. The folder C:\Users\User_Name\AppData\Local\Search does not exist. However, i see the index files being updated with dates of just a few minutes back in the original (non search 4) folder , c:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Search\Data with the stucture I posted as an attachment.

So, again I ask, what is going on?

Correction to previous - Search 4 was installed on 10/28/08 on my wife's computer.

 

[Brink]

Dick,

I would recommend doing a System Restore using a restore point dated before this problem to see if it can fix it for you.

 

[Dick Blaine]

Brink, thanks again for all of your suggesting.

Here is a summary of where I stand:

1) My wife's identical hardware/software has a very different search structure than specified in the toturial and is working ok. I intend to attempt to copy her structure with her indexing files over to my computer or at least build the same structure.
2) I no longer have system restore points going back before the indexing problem started.
3) I have already attempted to do a refresh install of Vista. It went fine for about 60 minutes and just as it was about to compete, I got a messsage that the installation failed and the prior system was restored.
4) I did run SFC several times and also uninstalled/reinstalled the Search 4 update. One thing I neglected to try was to see if indexing would work without the Search 4 update - I may try that.

Bottom line, I am highly reluctant to do a clean install because of the time and trouble necessary to reinstall all of my programs, data and tunning.

Thanks, again - if I every resolve this problem I will post again.
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