Help! Please.

[Pieman]

Hi i own a Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit. I have an AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+2.6GHz, 3GB of RAM, and NVIDIA GeForce 9400GT. I recently bought MW2 from a recommendation from my friend. We have exactly the same thing in our computer except he has a 64bit and i have 32bit and he has a 9800 GT. He runs on 200 fps at max and i run on 45 fps at max. I'm wondering is there something wrong? Does the Graphics card do that much better? I've checked the systems on both and they are exactly the same. I don't think the Graphics card can make it that much better. Also does the 64bit run that much better? If so is there a way to upgrade? I would really appreciate help because he is always better than me because of fps and i would want mine to be like his. My brother suggested to me on my budget get faster RAM speeds but i was searching and i heard it can only increase fps by 10 or 20. If the graphics card or the 64bit does that much i would like information on how to change the 64bit. I am average tech savvy so excuse me if i don't understand some things.

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[richc46]

Welcome

If your computer came with the OS installed, you can call the mfg and get a 64 bit DVD for cost or something close

If you bought the DVD, you should have received 2 one for 64 and the other for 32

It is my opinion,however that the difference in performance is not due to 64 v 32 and 3gb of ram.

 

[Pieman]

So it's the graphics card?
The graphics card can handle the game just not too well and on NVIDIA's website i did help me choose and i did graphics cards for new games. Not super high res but 1680x1080. It didn't have my card in there so i went 1 back and it was in the section videos and HD or something like that so i think it might be just a little too old. I'm looking at the GTS 250 if anyone would like to help me make a choice on my budget around $100 and see if it is compatible. I dont think it will be because we could barely fit in the 9400GT.

 

[stoneys-nutz]

Hello Pieman.
The PC your comparing this against, does it have the same amount of ram ?.
Also, a lot will depend on what he has running in the background.

Go to search and type msconfig press enter and confirm the UAC prompt, go to Startup tab and see what is running.

Hope this helps, good luck and post your results.

 

[Pieman]

well i've checked his computer and he has like 3086mb free RAM and i have 3gb. We both turn off everything except firewall stuff.

Also I play MW2 with Vac Chaos i'm not sure if any of you are familiar with it but it loads the game and disables vac. Maybe thats it? It is also the only way i know of to know fps.

 

[v877051]

Welcome

If your computer came with the OS installed, you can call the mfg and get a 64 bit DVD for cost or something close

If you bought the DVD, you should have received 2 one for 64 and the other for 32

It is my opinion,however that the difference in performance is not due to 64 v 32 and 3gb of ram.

RichC46,

...would you expand on why/where you think the performance issue lies, or where the importance is?

Check out my system specs. I'm barely able to multi-task at times. I think it's something terribly simple. (Funny, I can help others all day & night, but when it comes to my system, I get confused a little more easily. ha.)

 

[richc46]

Welcome

If your computer came with the OS installed, you can call the mfg and get a 64 bit DVD for cost or something close

If you bought the DVD, you should have received 2 one for 64 and the other for 32

It is my opinion,however that the difference in performance is not due to 64 v 32 and 3gb of ram.

RichC46,

...would you expand on why/where you think the performance issue lies, or where the importance is?

Check out my system specs. I'm barely able to multi-task at times. I think it's something terribly simple. (Funny, I can help others all day & night, but when it comes to my system, I get confused a little more easily. ha.)

Sounds like you could have a virus or malware. Run a virus scan and download and scan with malwarebytes.

In addition Go to device manager makes sure that there are no yellow markers indicating problems with a driver or card. Make sure all drivers are up to date.
You can get a list of your drivers by typing driverquery in an elevated cmd prompt.

Download and run this memory test, pass at least 6 times
Guide to using Memtest86+

If everthing turns out ok, then we just have to remove some services/programs from startup.

 

[v877051]

Welcome

If your computer came with the OS installed, you can call the mfg and get a 64 bit DVD for cost or something close

If you bought the DVD, you should have received 2 one for 64 and the other for 32

It is my opinion,however that the difference in performance is not due to 64 v 32 and 3gb of ram.

RichC46,

...would you expand on why/where you think the performance issue lies, or where the importance is?

Check out my system specs. I'm barely able to multi-task at times. I think it's something terribly simple. (Funny, I can help others all day & night, but when it comes to my system, I get confused a little more easily. ha.)

Sounds like you could have a virus or malware. Run a virus scan and download and scan with malwarebytes.

In addition Go to device manager makes sure that there are no yellow markers indicating problems with a driver or card. Make sure all drivers are up to date.
You can get a list of your drivers by typing driverquery in an elevated cmd prompt.

Download and run this memory test, pass at least 6 times
Guide to using Memtest86+

If everthing turns out ok, then we just have to remove some services/programs from startup.

Rich,

...AWESOME follow-up. I'm in the process of rebooting & running MemTest.exe from flash. I frequently use (and LOVE) Malwarebyte's. I'm @ 1.46 w/ all updates. I also try to sneak-in usage of Spybot S&D (although it's a conflict w/ Norton, which I get free from my ISP, which I shut-down to run Spybot offline.)

No hits. (Including all external hard drives.)

Msconfig.exe, which I use through CCleaner, only loads iTunes, QuickTime and printer-related stuff. (Lexmark x2580)

I've verified all drivers current as of now, as I checked ASUS's website for my motherboard, the P5Q Premium. Note: I do not enable ExpressGate (no need for it,) nor have I ever flashed my BIOS (seems too risky for small increment in revisions/updates.)

We'll see what's up after I reboot! Thanks again for helping me w/ this.

 

[v877051]

Download and run this memory test, pass at least 6 times
Guide to using Memtest86+

If everthing turns out ok, then we just have to remove some services/programs from startup.

Hey, Rich,

Thanks again for helping me out in this. I did eventually get MemTest86+ to work; it ran through all 8 Gig's (I took them out one at a time, 4x 2GB DDR2 @ 400MHz each,) and then rebooted & let it read them all.

There were no errors or anything. There was one "pass," but I'm not sure what that was.

The CaS Latency seems intact and I'm not overclocking; As I'm sure you know, ASUS puts all kinds of preventative measures into motherboards (especially if you leave CMOS at defaults.)

I have not changed or upgraded my BIOS. It's AMI revision 2001. The only thing I did was disable this annoying ExpressGate so it didn't load @ boot or show it's splash screen.

My performance monitors and even the most basic taskmgr.exe numbers look correct/intact.

For some reason, though, there's still a huge lag and lack of multi-tasking capabilities. With the available HDD space, available virtual memory, processor type, etc., it just makes sense that this thing should be screaming, not making me scream.

I downloaded Lavalys Everest Ultimate and saved a plain text file report to my desktop. I haven't looked at it yet.

...any other suggestions as to how to proceed here?

Again, I really appreciate the input. FYI, no spyware/malware (despite conflicts, I uninstalled/installed/etc.) Malwarebyte's Anti-Malware, TrendMicro HouseCall 7.1 x64, Kapersky ISS 2010, TrendMicro Internet Security 2010 Pro x64 and also Spybot Search & Destroy (for advanced detection of Virtumundo, the only thing I can think would be causing all this!)

That's everything!

 

[richc46]

Only thing left that I can think of is to follow this Tutorial, that works for 7 as well as Vista.
Optimize Windows 7 - Windows 7 Forums

 

[wheelsmith]

there is a big difference between you card and your friends the 9400 is a entry level card. its comparable to most onbroad gpus. it has a texture fill rate of about 3.5billion the 9800 is about 33billion a big difference. for a upgrade have a look at the sapphire ati 5750s or 5750s they are not too long and will run most of the latest games on high settings on a moderate resolution, energy requirements and temps are lower than nviida and cost is about £85-£140 depending on onboard memory/cooling etc.

 

[v877051]

there is a big difference between you card and your friends the 9400 is a entry level card. its comparable to most onbroad gpus. it has a texture fill rate of about 3.5billion the 9800 is about 33billion a big difference. for a upgrade have a look at the sapphire ati 5750s or 5750s they are not too long and will run most of the latest games on high settings on a moderate resolution, energy requirements and temps are lower than nviida and cost is about £85-£140 depending on onboard memory/cooling etc.

Well the whitepapers dont lie; one can't compare something with the streamlined consistency and wear-with-all of an ATI 5770; I'm sure the Sapphire product measures-up; NVIDIA isn't exactly setting the world on fire; at best (unless you're with all that CUDA business) you get the convenience of easy-to-find (and, to a fault,) overbearing updates, which fix only their newest error, which doesn't impact sales figures because they easily write WHQL to their software and FW. I just don't see the hype or respect a capapble company like NVIDIA which, in its best moments, had the power and prowess to become a standard at the on-board level; their artificially inflated and overpriced (and colourful) vehicles just don't deliver. At risk of beating a dead horse here, their shelf life or half life or whatever just isn't par; it's frankly ACER quality nicely polished up and pretty to look at with the innundating CPL GUI which loves to randomly inject a right-click context menu entry to their propagandized and remedial "Hi and welcome to NVIDIA area!"

Honestly I thought this was universally understood by people with high level skills such as yourself. However the bottom line is that it's suspect; possible brand loyalty versus demonstrated success and more for your bundle of dollars youre giving either way is somewhat disagreeable.

 

[Madandfrustrate]

Hi i own a Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit. I have an AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+2.6GHz, 3GB of RAM, and NVIDIA GeForce 9400GT. I recently bought MW2 from a recommendation from my friend. We have exactly the same thing in our computer except he has a 64bit and i have 32bit and he has a 9800 GT. He runs on 200 fps at max and i run on 45 fps at max. I'm wondering is there something wrong? Does the Graphics card do that much better? I've checked the systems on both and they are exactly the same. I don't think the Graphics card can make it that much better. Also does the 64bit run that much better? If so is there a way to upgrade? I would really appreciate help because he is always better than me because of fps and i would want mine to be like his. My brother suggested to me on my budget get faster RAM speeds but i was searching and i heard it can only increase fps by 10 or 20. If the graphics card or the 64bit does that much i would like information on how to change the 64bit. I am average tech savvy so excuse me if i don't understand some things.

Wow i type a lot
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Well the 9800GT is a lot more powerful than your 9400GT, so yes it is a large factor, but I'm not sure if it's large enough for a 155fps difference. The ram might make fill in the gap, but unless you have several programs using up most of your hard drive space, I don't think it would slow you down that much.

 

[v877051]

Thanks for the update! I have a friend who's on the frontline in re: repair & stuff at a shop who said it's all about tweaking out the CMOS/BIOS. The ASUS P5Q Premium motherboard totally inundates me w/ jargon I totally admit I don't udnerstand.

I see where you're coming from, though. I did do the MemTestx86 bootable to test the RAM. I eliminated my pagefile from my friend's advice. I also set the x2 1TB HDD's mirrored, at RAID0. Big difference, but something's still majorly lacking.

Any ideas/advice? I'm told (a LOT) that the video card must go. However, I'm not a man of means.

I'd ideally love a better card + a better processor, but I'm told that I'm basically an anti-overclocker. I'm not making or letting it reach potential. Any suggestions will be WELL entertained, man!

Thanks again.
v877051
Erik

 

[Madandfrustrate]

Thanks for the update! I have a friend who's on the frontline in re: repair & stuff at a shop who said it's all about tweaking out the CMOS/BIOS. The ASUS P5Q Premium motherboard totally inundates me w/ jargon I totally admit I don't udnerstand.

I see where you're coming from, though. I did do the MemTestx86 bootable to test the RAM. I eliminated my pagefile from my friend's advice. I also set the x2 1TB HDD's mirrored, at RAID0. Big difference, but something's still majorly lacking.

Any ideas/advice? I'm told (a LOT) that the video card must go. However, I'm not a man of means.

I'd ideally love a better card + a better processor, but I'm told that I'm basically an anti-overclocker. I'm not making or letting it reach potential. Any suggestions will be WELL entertained, man!

Thanks again.
v877051
Erik

Hey, my name's Erik too! Sorry I went a bit off topic.

 

[v877051]

Haha ok. Coincidence! ...any advice on that topic or, perhaps, other means (hopefully w/o 3rd-party software!) of some general acceleration with this system?

It's maddening to have the potential to do what I want but not be able to accomplish it. I know I'm missing something important.

 

[Madandfrustrate]

there is a big difference between you card and your friends the 9400 is a entry level card. its comparable to most onbroad gpus. it has a texture fill rate of about 3.5billion the 9800 is about 33billion a big difference. for a upgrade have a look at the sapphire ati 5750s or 5750s they are not too long and will run most of the latest games on high settings on a moderate resolution, energy requirements and temps are lower than nviida and cost is about £85-£140 depending on onboard memory/cooling etc.

Well the whitepapers dont lie; one can't compare something with the streamlined consistency and wear-with-all of an ATI 5770; I'm sure the Sapphire product measures-up; NVIDIA isn't exactly setting the world on fire; at best (unless you're with all that CUDA business) you get the convenience of easy-to-find (and, to a fault,) overbearing updates, which fix only their newest error, which doesn't impact sales figures because they easily write WHQL to their software and FW. I just don't see the hype or respect a capapble company like NVIDIA which, in its best moments, had the power and prowess to become a standard at the on-board level; their artificially inflated and overpriced (and colourful) vehicles just don't deliver. At risk of beating a dead horse here, their shelf life or half life or whatever just isn't par; it's frankly ACER quality nicely polished up and pretty to look at with the innundating CPL GUI which loves to randomly inject a right-click context menu entry to their propagandized and remedial "Hi and welcome to NVIDIA area!"

Honestly I thought this was universally understood by people with high level skills such as yourself. However the bottom line is that it's suspect; possible brand loyalty versus demonstrated success and more for your bundle of dollars youre giving either way is somewhat disagreeable.

Well, ATI and AMD does gives you the best bang for your buck.