every other startup has freeze

aerofanadam

aerofanadam

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odd problem, my coumputer will crash after 20-40min. on the first startup, then runs fine on the second, then crashes again on third and so on. actually more of a freeze than a crash, it starts with lag (either in game or on desktop, even crashed once trying to type this.) followed by a total lockup with sound Millisecond repetition. If I catch the lag soon enough either in game (any game) or music or video I can get out of program and hit restart on windows menu. If not, it requires pushing the restart button on tower. I thought maybe a prob with windows shutdown procedure as I usually start from full shut down on first and from power restart on second due to freeze, but further testing says no. My little brother used to have same problem on his rig but it went away mysteriously. I am, however, using his old 9800 as a physX card but that should not matter surfing forums or wiki or such, also he claims it quit long before he gave me his old card. That and Vista are our only two common denominators. we don't even play the same games as he muti's on the web and I usually turn my internet off when I game. I will try turning the card off entirely next, but if some sagely wisdom is found let me know.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Home built
    CPU
    phenom IIx4 810
    Motherboard
    m4a79t deluxe
    Memory
    8Gb DDR3 OCZ Platinum AMD Edition
    Graphics card(s)
    evga 295 co-op and 9800 gtx for PhysX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Mk241H
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1200
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Barracuda 7200 750Gb
    PSU
    ABS Tagan BZ 800W
    Case
    Xclio A380PLUS-BK Fully Black
    Cooling
    Asus Royal Knight
    Mouse
    Logitech 5 button tilt wheel laser (don't remember model#)
    Keyboard
    Razor Lycosa Mirror edition
    Internet Speed
    Wireless Road Runner
Sounds pretty much like memory corrupted ......or under sufficient

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My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    S-Vaio FZ
    CPU
    Intel Core2duo T7100-1.8GHz
    Memory
    DDR2-2GB-PC2.5300-Sp.667MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Mobile Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100-358MBvideo ram
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    200GB/7200Rpm/Serial ATA
actually, I bought Auslogics. wonderful program and well worth the $$$. and no, i have 8 Gb of DDR3 fully memtested and on the "good" starts I can run crysis full specs and am currently playing last remnant with nvidia controll panels max settings (which are far and away higher than the games and actually show marked improvment as AA AF and Vsync are not options on the game) my rig should be posted on my profile not sure how that works am new to forum
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Home built
    CPU
    phenom IIx4 810
    Motherboard
    m4a79t deluxe
    Memory
    8Gb DDR3 OCZ Platinum AMD Edition
    Graphics card(s)
    evga 295 co-op and 9800 gtx for PhysX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Mk241H
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1200
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Barracuda 7200 750Gb
    PSU
    ABS Tagan BZ 800W
    Case
    Xclio A380PLUS-BK Fully Black
    Cooling
    Asus Royal Knight
    Mouse
    Logitech 5 button tilt wheel laser (don't remember model#)
    Keyboard
    Razor Lycosa Mirror edition
    Internet Speed
    Wireless Road Runner
One thing you can try .....
Swap out though memory modules ....

Put the first one to the last .....see if it goes away .....

(As for now....base on what you post which very little specs of your system ..
and what I offer is just a shot in the dark ....So ...please don't get offended)
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    S-Vaio FZ
    CPU
    Intel Core2duo T7100-1.8GHz
    Memory
    DDR2-2GB-PC2.5300-Sp.667MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Mobile Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100-358MBvideo ram
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    200GB/7200Rpm/Serial ATA
no offence taken just wasn't sure if you could see my sytem specs under my posts. If I click on the tab under yours it gives me it so what am I missing? Also, like i said I ran Memtest and tried it with only two dimms at a time (all possible combinations both in recomended slots and mixed) and still tested good nvidia sytem monitor shows low temps and occasional high hd usage but that's vista's indexing and can be turned off. also, had another anomaly while playing last remnant on this "good" start sound temp diasbled
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Home built
    CPU
    phenom IIx4 810
    Motherboard
    m4a79t deluxe
    Memory
    8Gb DDR3 OCZ Platinum AMD Edition
    Graphics card(s)
    evga 295 co-op and 9800 gtx for PhysX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Mk241H
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1200
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Barracuda 7200 750Gb
    PSU
    ABS Tagan BZ 800W
    Case
    Xclio A380PLUS-BK Fully Black
    Cooling
    Asus Royal Knight
    Mouse
    Logitech 5 button tilt wheel laser (don't remember model#)
    Keyboard
    Razor Lycosa Mirror edition
    Internet Speed
    Wireless Road Runner
aerofanadam said:
odd problem, my coumputer will crash after 20-40min. on the first startup, then runs fine on the second, then crashes again on third and so on. actually more of a freeze than a crash, it starts with lag (either in game or on desktop, even crashed once trying to type this.) followed by a total lockup with sound Millisecond repetition. If I catch the lag soon enough either in game (any game) or music or video I can get out of program and hit restart on windows menu. If not, it requires pushing the restart button on tower. I thought maybe a prob with windows shutdown procedure as I usually start from full shut down on first and from power restart on second due to freeze, but further testing says no. My little brother used to have same problem on his rig but it went away mysteriously. I am, however, using his old 9800 as a physX card but that should not matter surfing forums or wiki or such, also he claims it quit long before he gave me his old card. That and Vista are our only two common denominators. we don't even play the same games as he muti's on the web and I usually turn my internet off when I game. I will try turning the card off entirely next, but if some sagely wisdom is found let me know.
Click to expand...

What does event viewer say about the freezes. Are there any errors listed under the app tab? To open evntvwr type event viewer in search

Ken
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron E 1405
    CPU
    [email protected]
    Memory
    4 gigs
    Graphics card(s)
    integrated intel 945
    Sound Card
    integrated
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900
    Hard Drives
    300 gig internal
    Internet Speed
    10 down 1.5 up
huh event viewer fails to open Microsoft Management Console has stopped working AVG says no virus tho

New development: windows explorer stopped working when right clicking icons related?

Event viwer now working after explorer restart only error with corresponding frequency (i.e. once in last 24 hrs and roughly 10 or so in last 7 days) was no big surprise Last powerdown was unexpected
 
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My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Home built
    CPU
    phenom IIx4 810
    Motherboard
    m4a79t deluxe
    Memory
    8Gb DDR3 OCZ Platinum AMD Edition
    Graphics card(s)
    evga 295 co-op and 9800 gtx for PhysX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Mk241H
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1200
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Barracuda 7200 750Gb
    PSU
    ABS Tagan BZ 800W
    Case
    Xclio A380PLUS-BK Fully Black
    Cooling
    Asus Royal Knight
    Mouse
    Logitech 5 button tilt wheel laser (don't remember model#)
    Keyboard
    Razor Lycosa Mirror edition
    Internet Speed
    Wireless Road Runner
Ok...I got it ...
That's a ...impressive system ....

Whats spec of your PSU .....? ..Brand & model .....?

I have seen system acting Odd under power unit .....?
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    S-Vaio FZ
    CPU
    Intel Core2duo T7100-1.8GHz
    Memory
    DDR2-2GB-PC2.5300-Sp.667MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Mobile Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100-358MBvideo ram
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    200GB/7200Rpm/Serial ATA
i'll post a link to the newegg specs unfortunately it's nolonger carried as they have a new model out now (not as cool looking tho) Newegg.com - ABS Tagan BZ Series BZ800 800W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Patent Piperock Modular Power Supply - Power Supplies I wish they still carried these I'm going to build a similar rig for a cousin of mine soon and the piperock modular design was great to work with. never buying another non-modular again! Also, on last "good start left overnight and ran fine in morning testing now on restart to see if it's just cold natured (I know it's not a car but that's the only way i can think to describe it. Once a mechanic always a mechanic.)
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Home built
    CPU
    phenom IIx4 810
    Motherboard
    m4a79t deluxe
    Memory
    8Gb DDR3 OCZ Platinum AMD Edition
    Graphics card(s)
    evga 295 co-op and 9800 gtx for PhysX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Mk241H
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1200
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Barracuda 7200 750Gb
    PSU
    ABS Tagan BZ 800W
    Case
    Xclio A380PLUS-BK Fully Black
    Cooling
    Asus Royal Knight
    Mouse
    Logitech 5 button tilt wheel laser (don't remember model#)
    Keyboard
    Razor Lycosa Mirror edition
    Internet Speed
    Wireless Road Runner
Update: Left system on over night on "good" start then restarted in morning. What should have statistically been a "bad" start ran fine. left powered off overnight and had freeze on next start. definately sounds like my 9800 is cold-natured. Thanks to all for help.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Home built
    CPU
    phenom IIx4 810
    Motherboard
    m4a79t deluxe
    Memory
    8Gb DDR3 OCZ Platinum AMD Edition
    Graphics card(s)
    evga 295 co-op and 9800 gtx for PhysX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Mk241H
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1200
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Barracuda 7200 750Gb
    PSU
    ABS Tagan BZ 800W
    Case
    Xclio A380PLUS-BK Fully Black
    Cooling
    Asus Royal Knight
    Mouse
    Logitech 5 button tilt wheel laser (don't remember model#)
    Keyboard
    Razor Lycosa Mirror edition
    Internet Speed
    Wireless Road Runner
aerofanadam said:
huh event viewer fails to open Microsoft Management Console has stopped working AVG says no virus tho

New development: windows explorer stopped working when right clicking icons related?

Event viwer now working after explorer restart only error with corresponding frequency (i.e. once in last 24 hrs and roughly 10 or so in last 7 days) was no big surprise Last powerdown was unexpected
Click to expand...

Are you getting BSOD's? If you are you can check it here:http://www.vistax64.com/software/219790-reading-bsod-crash-files.html

If your memory is ok, hardware is ok, drivers are ok, and Windows features fail, system fails and is unstable, then I would suspect corruption of Windows. Usually this can result from using reg cleaner/optimizers, malware, and even User error.

1. AVG is not a very good AV, and performed poorly in recent AV-Comparatives, I would not rely on it, doublecheck and scan with NOD32, NORTON, Kaspersky online scanners to verify you have no malware.
http://www.vistax64.com/system-security/162362-antivirus-scanners-internet-security-tools.html

2. Run a System File Check to check the system for integrity violations
note- follow this tutorial- but instead of the defrag command, use sfc /scannow
http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/165576-how-make-vista-more-responsive-faster.html

3. Check your HDD that Windows is on for Attribute Corruption. (step 2)
(see above tutorial)
 
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System One

  • CPU
    T7600G Core2Duo 2.66 Ghz
    Motherboard
    Intel 945PM + ICH7 Chipset
    Memory
    4GB DDR2 PC2-5300 667MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Mobility Radeon x1900 256MB
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    WUXGA 17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920X1200
    Hard Drives
    640GB 7200RPM SATA/RAID 0 (2x320GB) and 320GB 7200RPM External
    Mouse
    Wireless Microsoft 3000
    Internet Speed
    10 mbps/2 mbps
    Other Info
    Optical Drive: Panasonic UJ-220 DL BD-RE (Blu-Ray)
no bsods just one little hiccup with windows explorer. never happened before hasn't since.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Home built
    CPU
    phenom IIx4 810
    Motherboard
    m4a79t deluxe
    Memory
    8Gb DDR3 OCZ Platinum AMD Edition
    Graphics card(s)
    evga 295 co-op and 9800 gtx for PhysX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Mk241H
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1200
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Barracuda 7200 750Gb
    PSU
    ABS Tagan BZ 800W
    Case
    Xclio A380PLUS-BK Fully Black
    Cooling
    Asus Royal Knight
    Mouse
    Logitech 5 button tilt wheel laser (don't remember model#)
    Keyboard
    Razor Lycosa Mirror edition
    Internet Speed
    Wireless Road Runner
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