Malware PRotection/Spyware?

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DarkDavil

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Currently.. All i am running is The Windows Def. The windows firewall(one that came with computer) and AVG Free version. But someone said something about spyware? Malware protection? And btw... i DO-NOT trust Malwarebytes Anti-Malware anymore. My dads friend had the free version on his computer and when he came over, (my wireless internet has super duper scanners built in)(my dad's business servers r at our basement) so it scanned my dads friends laptop, and their was like some sort of worm/trojan -like thing inside of malwarebytes anti-malware! So i just dont trust it! But all i got is -->

AVG Free, Windows Def, and normal Windows firewall. Any advice for Malware protetion/spyware stuff? OR is anti-spyware built-into AVG?
 

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    LAPTOP. HP Pavilion dv7-1005TX .
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    4.00 GB installed, max capacity 8 GB.
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    17.0" diagonal WXGA + High definition brightview widescreen infinity display.
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    SPECS. Drive 1. 298.09 GB Fujitzu MHZ2320BH G2 ATA Device Drive 2. [ All as above.] CONFIG. C:\287.65 GB, D:\298.09 GB, E:\10.44 GB.
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    Synaptics PS/2 Port touch pad.
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    ADSL [ Too slow.]
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So that, together with AVG will be great? :D
 

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  • Manufacturer/Model
    HP dv6000 CTO Entertainment Lappy :D
    CPU
    Intel Core 2 Duo T8300 @ 2.4GHz (2 CPUS), ~2.4 GHz
    Memory
    4094 MB Ram
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS, 2031 MB Memory
    Sound Card
    Realtek Hi-Def Sound Card
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Generic PnP Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1200x800
    Case
    HP Laptop :D
    Cooling
    Fans
    Mouse
    Microsoft Pro Mouse :D
    Keyboard
    Laptop
    Internet Speed
    DL: 20.51 Mb/s, Up-Load :5.27 Mb/s Ping: 10 ms
AVG free is so, so (according to the professional tests). But some people seem to be happy with it. I prefer Norton IS09, Kaspersky IS09 or NOD32. They have had top ratings recently.

PS: I also use SAS (superantispyware) as a scanner. It is quite good.
 

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    Also 1xHP desktop, 1xHP laptop, 1xGateway laptop
Yea, I want NOD32, but I'm not willing to pay for anything. And not able to get it via torrent. (If anyone know what that is..) So yea :( I might check out Panda? is it any good?
 

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  • Manufacturer/Model
    HP dv6000 CTO Entertainment Lappy :D
    CPU
    Intel Core 2 Duo T8300 @ 2.4GHz (2 CPUS), ~2.4 GHz
    Memory
    4094 MB Ram
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS, 2031 MB Memory
    Sound Card
    Realtek Hi-Def Sound Card
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Generic PnP Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1200x800
    Case
    HP Laptop :D
    Cooling
    Fans
    Mouse
    Microsoft Pro Mouse :D
    Keyboard
    Laptop
    Internet Speed
    DL: 20.51 Mb/s, Up-Load :5.27 Mb/s Ping: 10 ms
Panda is relatively new, so I'm not sure what types of tests it's been put through

Oh and Windows Defender is a malware scanner. Spyware is malware, so you have a scanner already.
 

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    9600M GT
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    Samsung PN50A550
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    Primary 1680 X 1050, Secondary 1920 X 1080
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    Logitech MX Revolution
    Internet Speed
    Satalite :-(
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    Running SUSE, Solaris, Kalyware, and BSD through vmware whenever the mood strikes
If you have been happy with AVG free, stick with it. It runs happily with Defender, the Win. firewall & SuperAnti Spyware.
[FWIW, we use AVG Anti Virus Pro here & see no reason whatsoever to change.]
 

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  • Manufacturer/Model
    LAPTOP. HP Pavilion dv7-1005TX .
    CPU
    IntelCore [email protected] x2
    Memory
    4.00 GB installed, max capacity 8 GB.
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce 9600M GT & 512MB DDR2 dedicated graphics mem.
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.0" diagonal WXGA + High definition brightview widescreen infinity display.
    Screen Resolution
    1440 x 900
    Hard Drives
    SPECS. Drive 1. 298.09 GB Fujitzu MHZ2320BH G2 ATA Device Drive 2. [ All as above.] CONFIG. C:\287.65 GB, D:\298.09 GB, E:\10.44 GB.
    Case
    Laptop / notebook.
    Cooling
    Stock.
    Mouse
    Synaptics PS/2 Port touch pad.
    Keyboard
    IBM enhanced
    Internet Speed
    ADSL [ Too slow.]
    Other Info
    Webcam.
A-ok :D Well, 1 more problem, i was just checkin out ESET SS(the one other than NOD32) and i cant download it? I went on their webpage and did the email sign-up trial thing. Will they email the 30-day trial to me? :D
 

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  • Manufacturer/Model
    HP dv6000 CTO Entertainment Lappy :D
    CPU
    Intel Core 2 Duo T8300 @ 2.4GHz (2 CPUS), ~2.4 GHz
    Memory
    4094 MB Ram
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS, 2031 MB Memory
    Sound Card
    Realtek Hi-Def Sound Card
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Generic PnP Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1200x800
    Case
    HP Laptop :D
    Cooling
    Fans
    Mouse
    Microsoft Pro Mouse :D
    Keyboard
    Laptop
    Internet Speed
    DL: 20.51 Mb/s, Up-Load :5.27 Mb/s Ping: 10 ms
Well they do say -
You need to have credentials to download ESET*********. Click here to request them. An email with username and password will be sent to you shortly.
Have you checked for the expected email?
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    LAPTOP. HP Pavilion dv7-1005TX .
    CPU
    IntelCore [email protected] x2
    Memory
    4.00 GB installed, max capacity 8 GB.
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce 9600M GT & 512MB DDR2 dedicated graphics mem.
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.0" diagonal WXGA + High definition brightview widescreen infinity display.
    Screen Resolution
    1440 x 900
    Hard Drives
    SPECS. Drive 1. 298.09 GB Fujitzu MHZ2320BH G2 ATA Device Drive 2. [ All as above.] CONFIG. C:\287.65 GB, D:\298.09 GB, E:\10.44 GB.
    Case
    Laptop / notebook.
    Cooling
    Stock.
    Mouse
    Synaptics PS/2 Port touch pad.
    Keyboard
    IBM enhanced
    Internet Speed
    ADSL [ Too slow.]
    Other Info
    Webcam.
Yes, i now have Eset Smart Secruity running :D And it'll be here for 1 month!! Yay!!
 

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  • Manufacturer/Model
    HP dv6000 CTO Entertainment Lappy :D
    CPU
    Intel Core 2 Duo T8300 @ 2.4GHz (2 CPUS), ~2.4 GHz
    Memory
    4094 MB Ram
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS, 2031 MB Memory
    Sound Card
    Realtek Hi-Def Sound Card
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Generic PnP Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1200x800
    Case
    HP Laptop :D
    Cooling
    Fans
    Mouse
    Microsoft Pro Mouse :D
    Keyboard
    Laptop
    Internet Speed
    DL: 20.51 Mb/s, Up-Load :5.27 Mb/s Ping: 10 ms
DarkDavil said:
their was like some sort of worm/trojan -like thing inside of malwarebytes anti-malware! So i just dont trust it!
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LOL!!!

Just because there is a worm inside the MBAM folder does not mean MBAM put it there. Secondly a lot of these AV software packages use "quarantine files", which if scanned by another AV could show malware, thus making it look like MBAM is a trojan/worm/etc... I can asure you MBAM is safe, but then again what do I know :P

Regarding which AV to use, well, AV apps are a thing of the past.

If you secure your PC correctly you actually don't need an AV app. However, if I were to use AV products then I would go for these new cloud-based scanners. PandaCloud is currently free while its in Beta. And it does work. I scanned some 0day malware the other day and nothing was found. Waited for a few minutes and scanned again. Needless to say it was detected and deleted. Go Panda :D
 

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starflame said:
DarkDavil said:
their was like some sort of worm/trojan -like thing inside of malwarebytes anti-malware! So i just dont trust it!
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LOL!!!

Just because there is a worm inside the MBAM folder does not mean MBAM put it there. Secondly a lot of these AV software packages use "quarantine files", which if scanned by another AV could show malware, thus making it look like MBAM is a trojan/worm/etc... I can asure you MBAM is safe, but then again what do I know :P

Regarding which AV to use, well, AV apps are a thing of the past.

If you secure your PC correctly you actually don't need an AV app. However, if I were to use AV products then I would go for these new cloud-based scanners. PandaCloud is currently free while its in Beta. And it does work. I scanned some 0day malware the other day and nothing was found. Waited for a few minutes and scanned again. Needless to say it was detected and deleted. Go Panda :D
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If he knew how to secure his PC correctly, he probably wouldn't be asking for advice and would be getting paid to secure others systems.
 

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    Sager NG2096
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    4 Gigs
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    9600M GT
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung PN50A550
    Screen Resolution
    Primary 1680 X 1050, Secondary 1920 X 1080
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Revolution
    Internet Speed
    Satalite :-(
    Other Info
    Running SUSE, Solaris, Kalyware, and BSD through vmware whenever the mood strikes
Asking for advice is not a crime, infact it builds knowledge. Although suggesting that WinDefender is ok is bad advice IMO.

Rather than just suggest an AV app, I am suggesting way he can harden his system. I don't want his to think that AV along is ok, thats a huge mistake.
 

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starflame said:
Asking for advice is not a crime, infact it builds knowledge.

As for getting paid to secure systems I work for an anti-malware software developer. So yer ;)
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You're offering bad advice by suggesting AV isn't needed, when the majority of people that read through this don't have any real training or actually understand how attacks are performed.
 

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  • Manufacturer/Model
    Sager NG2096
    CPU
    Intel P8700
    Memory
    4 Gigs
    Graphics card(s)
    9600M GT
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung PN50A550
    Screen Resolution
    Primary 1680 X 1050, Secondary 1920 X 1080
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Revolution
    Internet Speed
    Satalite :-(
    Other Info
    Running SUSE, Solaris, Kalyware, and BSD through vmware whenever the mood strikes
Like I said, IF you secure your computer correctly you don't need AV. Regardless of if you know how to or not, it doesn't change the fact you don't need AV.
 

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starflame said:
Like I said, IF you secure your computer correctly you don't need AV. Regardless of if you know how to or not, it doesn't change the fact you don't need AV.
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That is your opinion which I respect.
However I, for one, don't agree with you.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    LAPTOP. HP Pavilion dv7-1005TX .
    CPU
    IntelCore [email protected] x2
    Memory
    4.00 GB installed, max capacity 8 GB.
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce 9600M GT & 512MB DDR2 dedicated graphics mem.
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.0" diagonal WXGA + High definition brightview widescreen infinity display.
    Screen Resolution
    1440 x 900
    Hard Drives
    SPECS. Drive 1. 298.09 GB Fujitzu MHZ2320BH G2 ATA Device Drive 2. [ All as above.] CONFIG. C:\287.65 GB, D:\298.09 GB, E:\10.44 GB.
    Case
    Laptop / notebook.
    Cooling
    Stock.
    Mouse
    Synaptics PS/2 Port touch pad.
    Keyboard
    IBM enhanced
    Internet Speed
    ADSL [ Too slow.]
    Other Info
    Webcam.
Thanks :)

Firewall
Anti-Virus/Malware
Cloud Anti-Virus/Malware
Behaviour Blocker
HIPS
Virtualization

Between all these types of products Anti-Virus wouldn't be high on my list. Almost always HIPs would come first, followed by a BB, and a firewall. If you could recommend 1 product from any of the above, or maybe more I have missed off, which would it be?


If you go down the Anti-Virus/Malware route, there is a good chance your AntiVirus will miss 0day threats, making it a pointless application to have in the first place.
 

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