Has Anyone Tried These Optimizers?

JoeVistax64 · Nov 12, 2012

https://www.slimwareutilities.com

http://www.bluesprig.com

tom982 · Nov 12, 2012

I would stay clear of them to be honest. I work with Windows Update issues quite a lot and you wouldn't believe the damage those sort of programs can do. It completely killed Windows Update all together in one thread I dealt with.

I would recommend CCleaner and Soluto:

https://www.soluto.com/

Windows defrags automatically, so you don't need to deal with that

Tom

Landlady · Nov 22, 2012

Hijacking thread for curiosity. Is the registry repair option in CCleaner actually helpful and how often should it be used? I've heard different stances on whether or not it's actually helpful and is potentially harmful.

richc46 · Nov 22, 2012

I have CC and enjoy it. The registry portion is one of the most benign, but dont use it often. At most use it when you have a problem that you feel is registry and even then a system restore to good times is the best way to go. There are not many here who will disagree with me.

richc46 · Nov 22, 2012

tom982 said:
I would stay clear of them to be honest. I work with Windows Update issues quite a lot and you wouldn't believe the damage those sort of programs can do. It completely killed Windows Update all together in one thread I dealt with.

I would recommend CCleaner and Soluto:

https://www.soluto.com/

Windows defrags automatically, so you don't need to deal with that

Tom

Tom Full agreement here, have used CC and have suggested Soluto to others. My only comment regards defrag. I have turned off the automatic defrag and use Auslogics, very fast, efficient and never a problem.

ilikefree · Nov 22, 2012

richc46 said:
tom982 said:

I would stay clear of them to be honest. I work with Windows Update issues quite a lot and you wouldn't believe the damage those sort of programs can do. It completely killed Windows Update all together in one thread I dealt with.

I would recommend CCleaner and Soluto:

https://www.soluto.com/

Windows defrags automatically, so you don't need to deal with that

Tom

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Tom Full agreement here, have used CC and have suggested Soluto to others. My only comment regards defrag. I have turned off the automatic defrag and use Auslogics, very fast, efficient and never a problem.

Me Too

richc46 · Nov 22, 2012

ilikefree said:
richc46 said:

tom982 said:

I would stay clear of them to be honest. I work with Windows Update issues quite a lot and you wouldn't believe the damage those sort of programs can do. It completely killed Windows Update all together in one thread I dealt with.

I would recommend CCleaner and Soluto:

https://www.soluto.com/

Windows defrags automatically, so you don't need to deal with that

Tom

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Tom Full agreement here, have used CC and have suggested Soluto to others. My only comment regards defrag. I have turned off the automatic defrag and use Auslogics, very fast, efficient and never a problem.

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Me Too

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ilikefree · Nov 22, 2012

Hi mate, just popping in

tom982 · Nov 22, 2012

richc46 said:
Tom Full agreement here, have used CC and have suggested Soluto to others. My only comment regards defrag. I have turned off the automatic defrag and use Auslogics, very fast, efficient and never a problem.

I've used Auslogics and Defraggler in the past, and I don't really have a preference of the two. I just use whatever takes my fancy when I get round to defragging!

richc46 · Nov 22, 2012

I have heard, and it may be erroneous information, that its best to use the same defragger and not change from time to time.

tom982 · Nov 22, 2012

Thanks for the tip, never knew that! Well, as the saying goes, you learn something new every day. I'll stick to Auslogics then.

ilikefree · Nov 23, 2012

I was using Defraggler and switched to Auslogics as my restore points were unusable after Defraggler
Don't forget to turn off windows defragger in Task Scheduler if using a third party program

NoelDP · Nov 23, 2012

richc46 said:
I have heard, and it may be erroneous information, that its best to use the same defragger and not change from time to time.

This is true.
The reason is that every defragger uses a slightly different logic in the preferred placement of files (it's not just a case of splicing together the different parts of a file, but of optimising the placement of every file on the drive)

I don't think there's as much difference nowadays as there used to be, between programs, but the first run of any new defragger will always do a lot more work than later runs - and it will be undone as soon as you switch back to another defragger.

This is also a reason for not deleting the various prefetch folders, as the data there is used in determining optimal file placement to reduce head travel in operations like booting the OS.

richc46 · Nov 23, 2012

TY for the additional information.

MilesAhead · Nov 23, 2012

ilikefree said:
I was using Defraggler and switched to Auslogics as my restore points were unusable after Defraggler
Don't forget to turn off windows defragger in Task Scheduler if using a third party program

Even better than another defragger would be a dependable utility that was both easy on resources and adept at determining when the HD was relatively idle. Windows doesn't have one built in. That's why you get unpleasant surprises like defrag.exe firing on schedule even though you're in the middle of a MyDefrag run.

At a minimum defrag.exe should hook the Windows defrag API calls that most programs use to reduce the chance it's going to start processing while another defragger is already running. But that would be cheating.

The open source stuff I've seen to detect disk activity amounted to using WMI to get the disk activity over the last 2 seconds. Nowhere near good enough. It should be as easy to call as the CPU usage.

Those defraggers that run in background must use a device driver to get rapid disk activity updates.

tom982 · Nov 23, 2012

MilesAhead said:
ilikefree said:

I was using Defraggler and switched to Auslogics as my restore points were unusable after Defraggler
Don't forget to turn off windows defragger in Task Scheduler if using a third party program

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Even better than another defragger would be a dependable utility that was both easy on resources and adept at determining when the HD was relatively idle. Windows doesn't have one built in. That's why you get unpleasant surprises like defrag.exe firing on schedule even though you're in the middle of a MyDefrag run.

The open source stuff I've seen to detect disk activity amounted to using WMI to get the disk activity over the last 2 seconds. Nowhere near good enough. It should be as easy to call as the CPU usage.

Those defraggers that run in background must use a device driver to get rapid disk activity updates.

Don't fancy the project then?

MilesAhead · Nov 23, 2012

Don't fancy the project then?

I'll try it after the help is translated from Russian. I don't think I can keep up with those guys when it comes to system innards.

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