Solved Overclocking? Really Worth it? (results from 2 PC's)

nostaw5

nostaw5

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Ok this was originally a long post to write and i accidentally clicked BACK when i was going to publish.:mad:

basically i got 2 pcs, a laptop and a desktop, and i overclocked them.

Both had DDR2 667MHZ, C2D cpus and stock gpus.


I overclocked and got lower fps in games, longer boot times and increased heat.

Cpu-z also detected my desktop memory was at 233Mhz ddr and 466Mhz DDR2.

So that means overclocking reduces performance. I could see my pc stuttering on Plants Vs Zombies when overclocked from 2.4GHz to 3.7GHz. 2.4GHz ran smooth 3.7Ghz was like grinding sand paper along sharp rocks.

The post that was original had more results but im not going to spend another 1 hr of my day writing it out again and getting a sore wrist.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Gaming Rig 780G
    CPU
    AMG Athlon II X2 255 3.8/2MB/2500MHz 45nm AM3
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-MA78LMT-S2 AM3, Core Boost, Ultra Durable 3
    Memory
    2X 4GB Kingston DDR3 1066MHz @ 1666MHz Dual Channel
    Graphics card(s)
    HIS HD Radeon 7770 GHz Edition iCooler Core: 1000MHz
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell E2311H DVI/VGA 5ms response, Full HD
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 @ 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    320GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.02 SATA II
    PSU
    Cooler Master Extreme Power Plus 700w
    Case
    Lian-Li PC-6010 With Side Window
    Cooling
    Aywun A4 80mm fan
    Mouse
    Logitech K120 Wired Mouse
    Keyboard
    Logitech K120 Wired Keyboard
    Internet Speed
    802.11B/G/N 17Mb/s
    Other Info
    AMD Catalyst 12.6 Thomson A/B/G/N Router LiteON CD/DVD Player GAME PERFORMANCE: Battlefield 3: 41 FPS High 1x AA @ 1280x720 Mass Effect 2 and 3: 60 FPS Highest 4x AA @ 1920x1080 Counter Strike Source (and other Valve games): 300 FPS (max FPS in game) Highest settings 8x AA 16x AF @ 1920x1080!!!
Over clocking a laptop is not recommended.
Those who have over clocked a desktop have shown some improvement.
Just watch the temps as you increase speed so goes the the temps. IMHO
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilon Elite
    CPU
    Intel(R)Core(TM)2 Quad CPU [email protected]
    Motherboard
    ASUS eK Berkeley
    Memory
    4GB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP w2408 Vivid Color Widescreen LCD
    Cooling
    That's where I keep my beer
    Mouse
    MS WIRELESS
    Keyboard
    MS WIRELESS
    Internet Speed
    AT&T Uverse DSL
I know it is not recommended but i do what i want to do. If i want to overclock a laptop i will.

Yes depending on hardware some will see an improvement. But my results show they dont.


EDIT: As i said i have been overclocking and testing clocks for over a year now.


Cheers
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Gaming Rig 780G
    CPU
    AMG Athlon II X2 255 3.8/2MB/2500MHz 45nm AM3
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-MA78LMT-S2 AM3, Core Boost, Ultra Durable 3
    Memory
    2X 4GB Kingston DDR3 1066MHz @ 1666MHz Dual Channel
    Graphics card(s)
    HIS HD Radeon 7770 GHz Edition iCooler Core: 1000MHz
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell E2311H DVI/VGA 5ms response, Full HD
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 @ 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    320GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.02 SATA II
    PSU
    Cooler Master Extreme Power Plus 700w
    Case
    Lian-Li PC-6010 With Side Window
    Cooling
    Aywun A4 80mm fan
    Mouse
    Logitech K120 Wired Mouse
    Keyboard
    Logitech K120 Wired Keyboard
    Internet Speed
    802.11B/G/N 17Mb/s
    Other Info
    AMD Catalyst 12.6 Thomson A/B/G/N Router LiteON CD/DVD Player GAME PERFORMANCE: Battlefield 3: 41 FPS High 1x AA @ 1280x720 Mass Effect 2 and 3: 60 FPS Highest 4x AA @ 1920x1080 Counter Strike Source (and other Valve games): 300 FPS (max FPS in game) Highest settings 8x AA 16x AF @ 1920x1080!!!
Of course you may do what you want.
I was just offering some advice not giving you a lecture.
Just don't want you to mess up your computer that you spent hard earned money on.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilon Elite
    CPU
    Intel(R)Core(TM)2 Quad CPU [email protected]
    Motherboard
    ASUS eK Berkeley
    Memory
    4GB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP w2408 Vivid Color Widescreen LCD
    Cooling
    That's where I keep my beer
    Mouse
    MS WIRELESS
    Keyboard
    MS WIRELESS
    Internet Speed
    AT&T Uverse DSL
I know you were giving advice but i keep hearing NOT RECOMENDED FOR LAPTOPS. Its true though. I do things more careful than people think. And by the way


LAB RAT #2 was made with Pretty cheap parts!


Thanks for the advice.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Gaming Rig 780G
    CPU
    AMG Athlon II X2 255 3.8/2MB/2500MHz 45nm AM3
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-MA78LMT-S2 AM3, Core Boost, Ultra Durable 3
    Memory
    2X 4GB Kingston DDR3 1066MHz @ 1666MHz Dual Channel
    Graphics card(s)
    HIS HD Radeon 7770 GHz Edition iCooler Core: 1000MHz
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell E2311H DVI/VGA 5ms response, Full HD
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 @ 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    320GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.02 SATA II
    PSU
    Cooler Master Extreme Power Plus 700w
    Case
    Lian-Li PC-6010 With Side Window
    Cooling
    Aywun A4 80mm fan
    Mouse
    Logitech K120 Wired Mouse
    Keyboard
    Logitech K120 Wired Keyboard
    Internet Speed
    802.11B/G/N 17Mb/s
    Other Info
    AMD Catalyst 12.6 Thomson A/B/G/N Router LiteON CD/DVD Player GAME PERFORMANCE: Battlefield 3: 41 FPS High 1x AA @ 1280x720 Mass Effect 2 and 3: 60 FPS Highest 4x AA @ 1920x1080 Counter Strike Source (and other Valve games): 300 FPS (max FPS in game) Highest settings 8x AA 16x AF @ 1920x1080!!!
But another problem is that you overclocked far too much. If you had overclocked less, you probably would have achieved better results.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 420
    CPU
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 2.50GHz
    Motherboard
    Stock Dell 0TP406
    Memory
    4 gb (DDR2 800) 400MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD 3870 (512 MBytes)
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1 x Dell 2007FP and 1 x (old) Sonic flat screen
    Screen Resolution
    1600 x 1200 and 1280 x 1204
    Hard Drives
    1 x 640Gb (SATA 300) Western Digital: WDC WD6400AAKS-75A7B0 1 x 1Tb (SATA 600) Western Digital: Caviar Black, SATA 6GB/S, 64Mb cache, 8ms Western Digital: WDC WD1002FAEX-00Z3A0 ATA Device
    PSU
    Stock PSU - 375W
    Case
    Dell XPS 420
    Cooling
    Stock Fan
    Mouse
    Advent Optical ADE-WG01 (colour change light up)
    Keyboard
    Dell Bluetooth
    Internet Speed
    120 kb/s
    Other Info
    ASUS USB 3.0 5Gbps/SATA 6Gbps - PCI-Express Combo Controller Card (U3S6)
Ok so i read the post by niemiro and ran a test with lab rat #2 (desktop). I did a small 3.0GHz to 3.2GHz and still had lower results. So then i did 3.GHz to 3.4GHz to see if i was overclocking too low. NO! still lower... so i tried 3.0GHz to 4.0GHz and... that wasround the same of 3.0GHz AND temps werein the 70's to 80's C.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Gaming Rig 780G
    CPU
    AMG Athlon II X2 255 3.8/2MB/2500MHz 45nm AM3
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-MA78LMT-S2 AM3, Core Boost, Ultra Durable 3
    Memory
    2X 4GB Kingston DDR3 1066MHz @ 1666MHz Dual Channel
    Graphics card(s)
    HIS HD Radeon 7770 GHz Edition iCooler Core: 1000MHz
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell E2311H DVI/VGA 5ms response, Full HD
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 @ 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    320GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.02 SATA II
    PSU
    Cooler Master Extreme Power Plus 700w
    Case
    Lian-Li PC-6010 With Side Window
    Cooling
    Aywun A4 80mm fan
    Mouse
    Logitech K120 Wired Mouse
    Keyboard
    Logitech K120 Wired Keyboard
    Internet Speed
    802.11B/G/N 17Mb/s
    Other Info
    AMD Catalyst 12.6 Thomson A/B/G/N Router LiteON CD/DVD Player GAME PERFORMANCE: Battlefield 3: 41 FPS High 1x AA @ 1280x720 Mass Effect 2 and 3: 60 FPS Highest 4x AA @ 1920x1080 Counter Strike Source (and other Valve games): 300 FPS (max FPS in game) Highest settings 8x AA 16x AF @ 1920x1080!!!
I was thinking like 2.5 - 2.6GHz.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 420
    CPU
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 2.50GHz
    Motherboard
    Stock Dell 0TP406
    Memory
    4 gb (DDR2 800) 400MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD 3870 (512 MBytes)
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1 x Dell 2007FP and 1 x (old) Sonic flat screen
    Screen Resolution
    1600 x 1200 and 1280 x 1204
    Hard Drives
    1 x 640Gb (SATA 300) Western Digital: WDC WD6400AAKS-75A7B0 1 x 1Tb (SATA 600) Western Digital: Caviar Black, SATA 6GB/S, 64Mb cache, 8ms Western Digital: WDC WD1002FAEX-00Z3A0 ATA Device
    PSU
    Stock PSU - 375W
    Case
    Dell XPS 420
    Cooling
    Stock Fan
    Mouse
    Advent Optical ADE-WG01 (colour change light up)
    Keyboard
    Dell Bluetooth
    Internet Speed
    120 kb/s
    Other Info
    ASUS USB 3.0 5Gbps/SATA 6Gbps - PCI-Express Combo Controller Card (U3S6)
Overclocking is not worth it in my opinion unless you have high end hardware. Small overclock`s are definetly not worth it. As for laptops, they have very stringent heat and power limitations because of the design of the case and cooling.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    I5 3570K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z77-DS3H
    Memory
    4 x 4GB corsair ballistix sport DDR3 1600 Mhz
    Graphics card(s)
    Gigabyte Geforce GTX 660 TI
    Sound Card
    creative x-fi
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Primary CiBox 22" Widescreen LCD ,Secondary Dell 22" Widescreen
    Screen Resolution
    Both 1680 x 1050
    Hard Drives
    2 x 500G HD (SATA) 1 x 2TB USB
    PSU
    Corsair HX 620W ATX2.2 Modular SLI Complient PSU
    Case
    Antec 900 Ultimate Gaming Case
    Cooling
    3 x 80mm tri led front, 120mm side 120mm back, 200mm top
    Mouse
    Technika TKOPTM2
    Keyboard
    Logik
    Internet Speed
    288 / 4000
    Other Info
    Creative Inspire 7.1 T7900 Speakers Trust Graphics Tablet
i agree with roy69. Besides where did you get 2.5GHz from??? i had stock 3.0GHz. But 2.5 to 2.6 thats hardly and overclock. More like a.... babyclock.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Gaming Rig 780G
    CPU
    AMG Athlon II X2 255 3.8/2MB/2500MHz 45nm AM3
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-MA78LMT-S2 AM3, Core Boost, Ultra Durable 3
    Memory
    2X 4GB Kingston DDR3 1066MHz @ 1666MHz Dual Channel
    Graphics card(s)
    HIS HD Radeon 7770 GHz Edition iCooler Core: 1000MHz
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell E2311H DVI/VGA 5ms response, Full HD
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 @ 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    320GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.02 SATA II
    PSU
    Cooler Master Extreme Power Plus 700w
    Case
    Lian-Li PC-6010 With Side Window
    Cooling
    Aywun A4 80mm fan
    Mouse
    Logitech K120 Wired Mouse
    Keyboard
    Logitech K120 Wired Keyboard
    Internet Speed
    802.11B/G/N 17Mb/s
    Other Info
    AMD Catalyst 12.6 Thomson A/B/G/N Router LiteON CD/DVD Player GAME PERFORMANCE: Battlefield 3: 41 FPS High 1x AA @ 1280x720 Mass Effect 2 and 3: 60 FPS Highest 4x AA @ 1920x1080 Counter Strike Source (and other Valve games): 300 FPS (max FPS in game) Highest settings 8x AA 16x AF @ 1920x1080!!!
I can tell you most likely why your overclock did worse.

Its temperature, all cpus when you get above a certain temp start to slow down to maintain a proper temp. They either cut the multi down or shut a core off. Overclocking ALWAYS produces alot more heat, and managing gthat heat is the biggest part of overclocking.

I can show plenty of yes overclocking is 100% useful., all my cpus are overclocked. My q6600 is only at 2.9Ghz, but it can be 97% astable at 3.1Ghz, and my i7 950 is running zat 4.0Ghz. I can stable it at 4.15Ghz but don't like running 80's C.

Honestly, I find it alittle suspect you got a 1Ghz overclock on a 775 chip without a serious cpu cooler.

775 cpus peak up around 65-70C before they start acting up and shutting down.

And if overclocking safely wasn't worth it, they wouldn't make faster chips, or now make 2 versions of the 1155 cpus.
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    Dual L5639 // i7 950 @ 4.0Ghz
    Motherboard
    Evga SR-2 // Gigabyte x58a-ud3r
    Memory
    12Gig Corsair XMS3 // 6Gig OCZ Gold
    Graphics card(s)
    gtx 560 ti // gtx 260-216
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dual 22" // Headless
    Hard Drives
    OCZ aGILITY 3, 120Gig + Seagate 500Gig x 2
    PSU
    Silverstone da700 // Corsair 520hx
    Case
    Rosewill BlackHawk Ultra // Antec 900v1
    Cooling
    Twin CM Hyper 212+ // Noctua NH-u12
    Other Info
    Acer 8930 laptop with x9100...
Thanks for your response.

My 775 results for intel core 2 duo show that stock 3.0GHz runs around 40c while 3.4/7/9GHZ run about 58c. monitoring temps i have never gone over 74c idle 81c playing plants vs zombies!!!

My socket p t7100 runs at stock 1.8GHz and thats in the 50's. this is a laptop. Overclocked to 2.4GHz the temps rose to 70c.


i would not think temp is an issue for the desktop WITH an INTEL STOCK cpu cooler running ASUS Q-Fan on SILENT!!!
:D:D:huh::(;):sick::huh::mad::cry::p:o;):geek::rolleyes::shock:
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Gaming Rig 780G
    CPU
    AMG Athlon II X2 255 3.8/2MB/2500MHz 45nm AM3
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-MA78LMT-S2 AM3, Core Boost, Ultra Durable 3
    Memory
    2X 4GB Kingston DDR3 1066MHz @ 1666MHz Dual Channel
    Graphics card(s)
    HIS HD Radeon 7770 GHz Edition iCooler Core: 1000MHz
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell E2311H DVI/VGA 5ms response, Full HD
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 @ 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    320GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.02 SATA II
    PSU
    Cooler Master Extreme Power Plus 700w
    Case
    Lian-Li PC-6010 With Side Window
    Cooling
    Aywun A4 80mm fan
    Mouse
    Logitech K120 Wired Mouse
    Keyboard
    Logitech K120 Wired Keyboard
    Internet Speed
    802.11B/G/N 17Mb/s
    Other Info
    AMD Catalyst 12.6 Thomson A/B/G/N Router LiteON CD/DVD Player GAME PERFORMANCE: Battlefield 3: 41 FPS High 1x AA @ 1280x720 Mass Effect 2 and 3: 60 FPS Highest 4x AA @ 1920x1080 Counter Strike Source (and other Valve games): 300 FPS (max FPS in game) Highest settings 8x AA 16x AF @ 1920x1080!!!
Yha that is a bad thing... those are where the cpu starts throttling.

I run a huge heat sink on my q6600 tyo keep it low at 3.0+ Ghz

The stock setup is pure garbage.
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    Dual L5639 // i7 950 @ 4.0Ghz
    Motherboard
    Evga SR-2 // Gigabyte x58a-ud3r
    Memory
    12Gig Corsair XMS3 // 6Gig OCZ Gold
    Graphics card(s)
    gtx 560 ti // gtx 260-216
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dual 22" // Headless
    Hard Drives
    OCZ aGILITY 3, 120Gig + Seagate 500Gig x 2
    PSU
    Silverstone da700 // Corsair 520hx
    Case
    Rosewill BlackHawk Ultra // Antec 900v1
    Cooling
    Twin CM Hyper 212+ // Noctua NH-u12
    Other Info
    Acer 8930 laptop with x9100...
nostaw5 said:
i agree with roy69. Besides where did you get 2.5GHz from??? i had stock 3.0GHz. But 2.5 to 2.6 thats hardly and overclock. More like a.... babyclock.
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nostaw5 said:
So that means overclocking reduces performance. I could see my pc stuttering on Plants Vs Zombies when overclocked from 2.4GHz to 3.7GHz. 2.4GHz ran smooth 3.7Ghz was like grinding sand paper along sharp rocks.
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You said that you had stock 2.4GHz, not 3.0GHz, and you don't seem like the sort of person to underclock...IMO. It seemed that you were saying that a massive overclock worsened things. A very good experiment would have been to work upwards, and find out where it changed from faster to slower. And for that, you must start at 0.1GHz more than stock, and work upwards in that step.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 420
    CPU
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 2.50GHz
    Motherboard
    Stock Dell 0TP406
    Memory
    4 gb (DDR2 800) 400MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD 3870 (512 MBytes)
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1 x Dell 2007FP and 1 x (old) Sonic flat screen
    Screen Resolution
    1600 x 1200 and 1280 x 1204
    Hard Drives
    1 x 640Gb (SATA 300) Western Digital: WDC WD6400AAKS-75A7B0 1 x 1Tb (SATA 600) Western Digital: Caviar Black, SATA 6GB/S, 64Mb cache, 8ms Western Digital: WDC WD1002FAEX-00Z3A0 ATA Device
    PSU
    Stock PSU - 375W
    Case
    Dell XPS 420
    Cooling
    Stock Fan
    Mouse
    Advent Optical ADE-WG01 (colour change light up)
    Keyboard
    Dell Bluetooth
    Internet Speed
    120 kb/s
    Other Info
    ASUS USB 3.0 5Gbps/SATA 6Gbps - PCI-Express Combo Controller Card (U3S6)

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo Thinkpad T400
    CPU
    Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo P8700 @ 2.53GHz
    Motherboard
    LENOVO 64734VM
    Memory
    2.00GB Single-Channel DDR3 @ 531MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Mobile Intel 4 Series Express Chipset Family
    Sound Card
    Conexant 20561 SmartAudio HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15 inch
    Screen Resolution
    1280 x 800
    Hard Drives
    1x 180GB Intel 530 series SSD 1 x 120GB Hitachi 5400rmp 1 x 650GB Western Digital Elements 5400rpm 1x 1Tb Western Digital Elements 5400rpm
    Internet Speed
    Medium for New Zealand
    Other Info
    Weakest part of my computer is the graphics chipset. Only ever used a laptop. Also use USB Freeview TV Card Lenovo Docking Station External Speakers Other bits a pieces as needed
Yup they really are [h]ard there.

I'm on there too.
 

My Computer

System One

  • CPU
    Dual L5639 // i7 950 @ 4.0Ghz
    Motherboard
    Evga SR-2 // Gigabyte x58a-ud3r
    Memory
    12Gig Corsair XMS3 // 6Gig OCZ Gold
    Graphics card(s)
    gtx 560 ti // gtx 260-216
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dual 22" // Headless
    Hard Drives
    OCZ aGILITY 3, 120Gig + Seagate 500Gig x 2
    PSU
    Silverstone da700 // Corsair 520hx
    Case
    Rosewill BlackHawk Ultra // Antec 900v1
    Cooling
    Twin CM Hyper 212+ // Noctua NH-u12
    Other Info
    Acer 8930 laptop with x9100...
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