Transferring data to new hard drive - running out of space!

Jackmon · Jan 7, 2013

Hi All - Basically my problem is - I have installed a 2nd (larger) Hard drive on my computer (IQON running Vista Home Premium/32 bit).

I want to transfer everything from the original HD
(HDT 722525DLA 380 ATA)
to the new one
(SAMSUNG HD 204UI ATA ((F4EG Spinpoint)) ).

I am trying to do this with DriveImage XML. This free program asks me to give sizes of partitions for the new HD before it can continue. I don't know what sizes to key in.

The original HD's capacity seems to be: Partition C - 206 GB/Recovery 26.8 GB (although I think I noticed that 500 GB was printed on the HD's top cover).

The new HD has a capacity of 2 TB.

Any help would be greatly appreciated - I am no spring chicken & have only been using this technology since August. Many thanks.

brummyfan · Jan 7, 2013

I haven't used this program but I can recommend another easy to use program, I have used this and found very comfortable with it, give it a try:
Aomei Partition Assistant Home Edition - CNET Download.com

Patonb · Jan 7, 2013

My Question is why do it? Are you planning to remove the original drive?

Personally i would just quick format the new drive and leave windows on the old, and do a Cut/paste of your data to the new 2T drive.

This is a lot smarter as if you windows gets curropt you never touch your data when you reinstall Windows.

Jackmon · Jan 7, 2013

brummyfan - Thanks very much for that. I took your advice earlier on this afternoon (sorry Patonb) and went through the process of disc cloning using Aomei Partition Assistant.
It all seemed to go very well & was very easy to adjust the sizes of the partitions during the set up procedure (my main area of doubt).
It took approx 90 minutes to finish the process of switching all data from old to new HD's.
When I just came to check things out the computer had closed down & successfully rebooted but the original 'Partition C' & 'Recovery D' are still showing in 'My Computer' & the new Samsung HD is now not mentioned & I can't seem to locate it!
I'm wondering if the whole process was a failure?

wither 3 · Jan 7, 2013

I think you need to restart and, during the post, press "esc". Click on Hard Drive. Is the Samsung shown? If so, select it and, while it's trying to boot, do a restart. It should then be visible when you boot into your old HD.

Jackmon · Jan 7, 2013

I think you need to restart and, during the post, press "esc". Click on Hard
Drive. Is the Samsung shown? If so, select it and, while it's trying to boot, do
a restart. It should then be visible when you boot into your old HD.

Thanks wither 3 - Not quite sure I understood what to do but I did a restart & paused the black screen. It read Auto Detecting Pri Master -(then the detalis of the original HD) then underneath Auto Detacting - 3rd Slave Not Detected & no mention of the new Samsung HD (which had appeared there before I started the disc cloning procedure).

Patonb · Jan 7, 2013

Well the issue is your computer doesn't know about the new harddrive as the bios just plugs along oblivious to what windows does.

Go into your bios, usually hitting Delete, and swap your hard drive boot order around so the new one is first boot.

What computer brand/model or parts do you have?

Jackmon · Jan 7, 2013

Hi Patonb - thanks for the reply.

Go into your bios, usually hitting Delete, and swap your hard drive boot order
around so the new one is first boot.

Not sure how to do this. As I said in my first post:

I am no spring chicken & have only been using this technology since August.

So most of these procedures & terms are pretty new to me.
Sorry to be so dumb! I guess I would need a step by step list to do this stuff.

I have an IQON computer running Vista Home Premium/32 bit.

Patonb · Jan 7, 2013

No problems at all...... You're Britsh... Shoulda known

When you boot the computer, it should say " hit XXX to enter setup" The very very first screen you read.

Like I said, its usually Pressing Delete, and in there is where you should find the boot order.

Jackmon · Jan 8, 2013

Hi Patonb - Thanks for the reply.
When I turned the computer on this morning a speech bubble type message appeared at the bottom of the screen. 'Driver now successfully installed' - or words to that effect & the new Samsung HD had reappeared in 'My Computer' which is great but the stats seems a bit screwy to me. Please see the attached Screenshot (not sure if it worked)

or view at 4Shared under this link SS # - Download - 4shared. (This should read http://www.4shared.com/photo/h_BKNntP/ss_.html) I think.

The Recovery D partition seems to still be on the old HD but also appears (with the new 50 GB limit) on the new HD. And the Partition C is also still on the old HD. Don't get it. Did the switchover with Aomei Partition Assistant fail to work or maybe I chose the wrong option. The screen said 'Switching from Disk 1 to Disk 2 so I thought everything was O.K. I expected the 2 partitions on the old HD to be cleared out & for all the data to appear on the new HD, giving me a whole load of new space.

Patonb · Jan 8, 2013

All that is eexpected for me.. So now worries.

Can you get a screen shot of the disk management tab? It's in Control Panel\Administrative Tools\Computer Management

It'll show how ALL your drives are.

Now to the doubles.. All you have done right now is literly that, created doubles of your drives. You will have to manually remove the old stuff with a format.

HOWEVER. I'm nearly certain you are using the old windows install still so you can't do that ........ yet. We need to get your system booting to the new one, and thats done in the BIOS.

I'm having trouble finding information about your computer, can you find a link on the net to show me what you have?

Jackmon · Jan 8, 2013

Can you get a screen shot of the disk management tab? It's in Control
Panel\Administrative Tools\Computer Management

Sure. Screenshot at: http://www.4shared.com/photo/MkCSxevv/SS_Computer_Management.html

I did get into the BIOS & changed the priority so the Samsung HD was #1 but it seems to keep changing the original HD back to priority when I restart the computer.

Have put Screenshot of computer details on 4Shared but am having trouble at the moment with the upload. Sorry. See my original message for all the info I have on it.

Thanks for doing this.
http://www.4shared.com/photo/MkCSxevv/SS_Computer_Management.html

Patonb · Jan 8, 2013

I hate to be the bearer of bad news... but You only cloned the recovery partion, and not the C drive.

See how on management there is 2 recovery and 1 C? Thats the sign you only did the recovery.

I did the same thing swapping to an SSD, and this post/thread is how I went about it.
SSD - Install and transfer the Operating System - Windows 7 Forums

I'd seriously consider just running 2 drives

wither 3 · Jan 9, 2013

Do you have the Vista installation discs? If so, I would just install Vista on the new HD. You would need to change the boot order in the BIOS to have the new drive start before the old hard drive. The CD drive would have to be the first boot option. Or, you could select the new hard drive using the procedure I mentioned before. In the opening screen of the POST, it starts with the BIOS version and then continues on with details of the system and eventually gets to the hard drive. Hit ESC repeatedly during this process and it should open in a screen where you can select a disk drive. You would select Hard Drive and it should display both drives. Select the Samsung. In either scenario, you would need to have the installation disc in the CD drive before it gets through the POST since you can't boot to the new drive.

It looks like Windows is recognizing the new HD.

Jackmon · Jan 9, 2013

Hi Patonb - Thanks for that. Yes, it looks that way, I have to say. But when I was setting up to transfer the data I got both partitions on the new disc before I pressed the 'Go' button. I remember this because the Aomei program let me adjust the size of each partition - something I was worried about doing. Aomei seemed very user friendly. Anyway it seems to me that something has gone wrong with the process. I guess I need to consider what to do next.

Hi wither 3 - Thanks very much for the suggestions but I don't have any discs. This computer arrived as is - already set up & no discs. And, as I said before I did get into the BIOS & changed the priority so the Samsung HD was #1 but it seems to keep changing the original HD back to priority when I restart the computer.

Patonb · Jan 10, 2013

I notice your new recovery partion is twice as big. Something buggered up there for sure.

I would simply wipe your Samsung and restart the process.

JUST DO NOT TOUCH THE OLD DRIVE!

Jackmon · Jan 10, 2013

Hi Patonb - Thanks for that.

The good news: I went back to AOMEI Partition Assistant & eventually got all info across from 1st HD onto 2nd HD (Samsung 2 TB capacity).

So now I have the original HD in tact (just about running out of space on both Partition_1 & Recovery D)

and the new HD with both partitions copied across but now with loads of space - which was my original intention.

SO I thought - I'll disconnect HD1 & the new Samsung HD (loads more space) will take over & all my problems will be solved.

The bad news: The system will now not boot up fully. There are several messages on the boot up pages: Reboot & select proper Boot Drive (I have got in to the BIOS but can't get the Samsung HD to stay as Primary drive), CLIENT MAC ADDR: 001617EE3A FFFFF etc and Secondary Slave Drive - ATAPI incompatible.

I've reconnected the original HD to get in & send this message.

As always - any help greatly appreciated. Many thanks

Patonb · Jan 11, 2013

Yha, you will now need to repair the mbr I bet. You are going to need a fix it disk.
Download MBRFix 1.3.0.0 Free - Fix or create Master Boot Record (MBR) on harddisks - Softpedia

wither 3 · Jan 11, 2013

He should know that he doesn't have to disconnect\reconnect either drive. He will just need to connect both drives to the SATA bus using the appropriate cable. Then he can use the ESC during the POST to boot to either hard drive.

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