Help with an exact backup image please

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nuke21

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My windows is starting to act really funny so I was going to redo it and start from scratch using the ghost partishion that came on my Gateway. It is a 320 GB HD and I bought a 750 GB so I was going to try to somehow just bring over the ghost fine as an image and try to run it. I messed that up some how. So I then tried to use Macrium Reflect to make an exact copy of my ghost and C: (The entire hard drive) and I put it on the 750 and it was complete. Then I swapped the 750 in and I imagined it was supposed to be exactly like my 320 but it wouldn't even boot windows. I don't know what I did wrong or what I don't understand. If I get windows to run on the 750 I can then just run the ghost on it and refresh from there.

I wish Gateway would have their restore disks able to be downloaded and then burned. I don't want to have to pay $25 and then have them mail it to me. I would just install regular windows, but I like that ghost image there just incase, or else I would have just done that already.

Is there an easier to use program than Macrium Reflect I could possibly use then? I like that it is free but apparently I don't know what I am doing lol
 

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I know a member who is an expert with Macrium, I will ask him to help. You will like him he will give you all the help you need. Get your questions ready.
 

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Richard has asked me to look at your problem. If I understand this right, you were imaging to your new 750GB drive and swapped that against the old 320GB drive. Then it did not boot.

Well, that is normal and not the way to go about it. Any imaging program would have failed with that approach.

1. What you need to do is to image both your C and D partition (you can do that in one run by checking both partitions) to a seperate external drive. Then you can swap your drives.

2. Then I suggest you define 2 partitions for C and D on your new drive. They must be at least as big as they were on the 320GB drive. Best is to use the bootable CD of this program: BEST FREE Partition Manager Software for Windows supports all 32-bit & 64 bit Windows No-server OS.
You have to mark the C partition as primary and active and the D partition as primary.

3. Now you pull in the images of C and D one by one to the corresponding partitions that you have previously defined. Hopefully you have burnt the Macrium recovery disk to start the recovery from the CD reader with that (change the boot sequence in the BIOS).
Important: When you are being asked whether to mark the partition as primary or active, mark active for C and primary for D. (see picture1)
When you are asked to replace the "master boot record", chose replace (the check in the middle) for C and do not replace (the first check) for D. (see picture2)

If you have more questions, post back. I will be checking from time to time.
 

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Thank you very much whs, I will try this and be getting back to you if I experience any problems.

When you say C and D, I only have a C drive. The other is the ghost partishion that comes on name brand computers that I can not see in My computer, but I can see it when I try to make a complete image of my HD.

Do I want to choose a drive letter? It won't let me make it C when I try burning it.
 

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What you call the "Ghost drive", is the recovery partition. The manufacturers have this bad habit of hiding it. Go into Disk Management and assign a drive letter - e.g. "D". Then you can work with it. The letter C is reserved for the OS partition.
 

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I tried making the recovery section have a letter but it won't let me do it. All the other drives let me right click on them, but not this one.
 

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I got everything to work on the 750. It looks like my 320, but for some reason, the ALT F10 doesnt work to run the factory restore partishion. And when I try to run it in Windows, it says it knows it is not the origional HDD. So I'm thinking about just spending the $20 it will cost for Gateway to send me the recovery disk for it :(
 

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How about making an image of your system and use that as backup. Who needs the recovery partition or disk? Resetting to an image is a lot easier than reinstalling.
 

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The main reason I wanted to redo it, was because the system is becoming bugged. And I also wanted to to just start fresh. I think I might backup all my data on this HD, then reformat it, then just image the C drive in the 320 after I factory reset it then I will image the C: and send that image to the 750 then just store this 320 incase I need the ghost image on the 320 ever again.

Thank you for all your help tho. I really appreciate you trying to help me.
 

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I think that the suggestion to use the image as the back up is an excellent idea.
 
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It never hurts to reinstall from time to time. But for next time, make an image of your system after you made the fresh install, got all the updates, made the personal system settings and installed the "must have" programs and deleted all the programs you do not want.

Keep that image as "next" reinstall base. Then you save yourself a lot of work and you will have a "fresh" system too.
 

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Thanks whs. That makes sense. You live and learn lol. At least my system didn't crash and I am not forced to redo my computer. I am glad I learned this lessen before I had an accident like that happen. Thank you all for your guidence
 

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nuke21 said:
Thanks whs. That makes sense. You live and learn lol. At least my system didn't crash and I am not forced to redo my computer. I am glad I learned this lessen before I had an accident like that happen. Thank you all for your guidence
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No problem. Any time.
 

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Just to add to confusion, how did you get round the partitioning part of the equation? Usually the backups on gateway PCs are on a seperate partition to the OS install, I've used norton ghost before and it worked brilliantly with XP but I tried with a HD with multiple partitions and it would only copy one of the partitions over to the hard drive

Dave
 

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Hi,

When I have done this type OEM back-up with Norton Ghost, I have created two backups. One for the OEM partition "Recovery disk" (First to recover) & then one for the system drive & data drives (Second recovery). This back-up & recovery order has always worked for me.
 

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You have to distinguish between imaging which usually images only 1 partition (exception is Windows7 imaging that drags the 100MB active boot partition along) - and cloning which copies the whole drive.

Most paid programs like Norton Ghost, Acronis, Paragon or Macrium Pro can do both. But most free programs like free Macrium can only image.
 

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