I have to thank you again richard,I went to the forum started at the top, took me all day,to go through the suggestions, even the microsoft support instructions, in the advanced instructions, nothing worked,then i was at the bottom of the list of the suggestions, when i came across kaspersky's rootkit killer freeware, and it worked, what a relief, I have avast and it didn't pick it up on this infection, makes me want to switch to kasperky's, attached is the site for kasperky's rootkit killer if anybody has the same problem, and again a big thanks to you richard.
(ps and i tipped the scales)
I just dont understand what these creeps get out of loading these infections