Three problems with one laptop...

Naftaline · May 21, 2010

Hello everybody!

So, for the introduction...
I've got an Acer Aspire 6530G with Vista 32 Home ed. OS; AMD Turion x2 64, ATI Radeon 3650, Realtek HD Audio and 3 gb RAM.

And I've been experiencing three problems with it overall - all of them are connected with CPU usage and the heat, and if somebody helped me, I'd be very grateful.

SO. The 1st problem:
Overheating.

I had already solved one problem with my processor - my laptop was telling me all the time that I've got a single core processor(with a very high temperature!!) and I had to unlock the second core. I thought - I enabled the second core, okay, it's gonna be better..but nothing. My Acer's CPU temperature is 83°C when I am doing completely NOTHING.(just this window with Chrome opened and MSN.)
I tried to set the power mode, to change it, but nothing helped. I have got a cooling pad. No help. I also blew the air inside and even opened my acer - there was no dust at all(only a LITTLE on the fan.) I disabled every software that switches on automatically. I've installed new ATI and Realtek drivers. Manufacturers won't help me.
My laptop is set on a cooling pad on a wooden table.So...?! Ien understand that I won't be able to play the newest games on my laptop, but still, I think that swtiching off when playing a 5/6-year-old game is quite...

The 2nd problem:
Audiodg.exe

When I watch some videos and have a call on Skype, my CPU runs completely wild, goes to 100% usage and it has a problem with audiodg.exe(my taskbar says so.) I've installed new Realtek and ATI drivers, the newest I was able to found (from spring 2010), but it is still making me crazy.. I also even disabled ALL the special effects by clickin on the speaker's icon, switched the quality just to the ordinary CD's, swithed the Surround 5.1 to Stereo and so on..NOTHING helped, again.

The 3rd problem:
Flash
And using Flash on my computer, like Adobe's Flash for websites, playing Flash games fluently, is also only a dream for me. The computer starts to lag itself after a while, the CPU goes crazily high, then it falls down and everything carries peacefully on...but after next five minutes, everything falls down again.

I've used to have these problems since I received the computer - and I've always thought that new drivers and cooling pad,opening it,breathing the air and so on..will solve my problems,but nothing helped. I think I'll downgrade to the Win XP's....
BUT!
Thanks to you all, who even READ this to the end!

If you got any idea, I'll be really very,very grateful..

Have a nice day!

usasma · May 21, 2010

I would suggest putting some Arctic Silver or other thermal compound between the CPU and cooler. Once you've fixed the cooling problem, then we can process the other issues.

tom982 · May 22, 2010

Hi Naftaline,

Is your fan running correctly? Does it have a fluent rotation? Does it come on when your laptop gets hot (like it should)?

Naftaline · May 22, 2010

tom982 said:
Hi Naftaline,

Is your fan running correctly? Does it have a fluent rotation? Does it come on when your laptop gets hot (like it should)?

Hello..
Yeah, my fan is running quite good. It's running nearly wild sometimes:Dit's really trying to do the job..

tom982 · May 22, 2010

Do you have any other cooling systems? Such as a water cooling system?

tom982 · May 22, 2010

Would you be able to upload a few screenshots for us?

First screenshot:

1. Open the start menu
2. Type msconfig.exe in the search box and hit enter
3. Click on the start up tab
4. Take a few screenshots so we can see the whole list

Second screenshot:

1. Press: Control + Shift + Escape
2. Click on the processes tab
3. Select show processes from all users
4. Accept the UAC prompt
5. Take a few screenshots so we can see the whole list

Screenshot 3:

1. Open the start menu
2. Click control panel
3. Click programs
4. Click programs and features
5. Take a few screenshots so we can see the whole list

Naftaline · May 22, 2010

tom982 said:
Would you be able to upload a few screenshots for us?

First screenshot:

1. Open the start menu
2. Type msconfig.exe in the search box and hit enter
3. Click on the start up tab
4. Take a few screenshots so we can see the whole list

Second screenshot:

1. Press: Control + Shift + Escape
2. Click on the processes tab
3. Select show processes from all users
4. Accept the UAC prompt
5. Take a few screenshots so we can see the whole list

Screenshot 3:

1. Open the start menu
2. Click control panel
3. Click programs
4. Click programs and features
5. Take a few screenshots so we can see the whole list

Sure, no problem

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Naftaline · May 22, 2010

tom982 said:
Do you have any other cooling systems? Such as a water cooling system?

no..and i've never heard about it...and google is deaf! may i ask how does it work?

Naftaline · May 22, 2010

usasma said:
I would suggest putting some Arctic Silver or other thermal compound between the CPU and cooler. Once you've fixed the cooling problem, then we can process the other issues.

I'm quite afraid to do such a job..nevertheless my cpu is quite far away from the cooling system.

+ when i opened my laptop, it wasnt the cpu that was hottest. it was something inside an iron box, i didnt opened it, i think it should be either the harddisc or the ATI, because i havent seen them anywhere else..

Naftaline · May 22, 2010

+ I can also some add some screen of my CPU showing the high temp...

usasma · May 22, 2010

Normally there's a heat pipe leading from the CPU to the fan/heat exchanger inside the case.

It's possible that, when you opened the case, you separated the area that has the thermal paste on it. If that's the case, then you'll have to have that repaired.

You have to figure out what the hot iron box is. That will help us to decide how to proceed. If you're unsure, please take it to a computer shop for a diagnostic.

tom982 · May 23, 2010

Thanks for uploading those photos, I will get back to you about them when I get a proper chance to have a look at them.

As for the water cooling, wikipedia probably does a better job of explaining it than me:

Computer usage
See also: computer cooling

Interior of a water cooled computer, showing CPU/GPU waterblock, tubing and pump.

DIY Watercooling setup showing Laing Thermotech D4 12v pump, Swiftech STORM CPU Waterblock and the typical application of a T-Line.

In the past few years, water cooling is being realized for cooling computer components, especially the CPU. Water cooling usually consists of a CPU water block, a water pump, and a heat exchanger (usually a radiator with a fan attached). Water cooling not only allows for quieter operation and improved overclocking, but with improved heat handling capabilities hotter processors can be supported. Less commonly, GPUs, Northbridges, hard drives, memory, VRM, and even power supplies are water cooled.
Water coolers for computers (other than mainframes) were, up until the end of the '90s, homemade. They were put together using car radiators (or more commonly, a car's heater core), aquarium pumps and home made water blocks. In conjunction with these automotive items users would pair laboratory-grade PVC and Silicone tubing and various reservoirs (home made using plastic bottles, or constructed using cylindrical acrylic or sheets of acrylic, usually clear) and or a T-Line. More recently a growing number of companies are manufacturing pre-made, specialised components, allowing water cooling to be compact enough to fit inside a computer case. This, coupled with the growing amount of heat coming from the CPU has greatly increased the popularity of water cooling. However, it is still a very niche market.
Dedicated overclockers will occasionally use vapor-compression refrigeration or thermoelectric coolers in place of more common standard heat exchangers. Water cooling systems in which water is cooled directly by the evaporator coil of a phase change system are able to chill the circulating coolant below the ambient air temperature (an impossible feat using a standard heat exchanger) and, as a result, generally provide superior cooling of the computer's heat-generating components. The downside of phase-change or thermoelectric cooling is that it uses much more electricity and antifreeze must be added due to the low temperature. Additionally, insulation, usually in the form of lagging around water pipes and neoprene pads around the components to be cooled, must be used in order to prevent damage caused by condensation of water vapour from the air on the surfaces at below ambient temperature. Common places from which to borrow the required phase change systems are a household dehumidifier or air conditioner.
An alternative cooling system, which enables components to be cooled below the ambient temperature, but which obviates the requirement for antifreeze and lagged pipes, is to place a thermoelectric device (commonly referred to as a 'Peltier junction' or 'pelt' after Jean Peltier, who documented the effect) between the heat-generating component and the water block. Because the only sub-ambient temperature zone now is at the interface with the heat-generating component itself, insulation is required only in that localized area. The disadvantage to such a system is that pelts typically draw a large amount of power, and the water cooling system is required to remove this power, in addition to the heat generated by the component. Another possible danger is condensation, resulting from the ambient air right around the pelt being cold. This condensation could cause a short-circuit, shutting the computer down or possibly permanent damage. A proper installation requires that the Peltier be "potted" with silicone epoxy. The epoxy is applied around the edges of the device, preventing air from entering or leaving the interior.
Apple's Power Mac G5 was the first mainstream desktop computer to have water cooling as standard, and Dell later followed suit by shipping their XPS computers with liquid cooling[citation needed], using thermoelectric cooling to help cool the liquid. Currently, Dell's only computers to offer liquid cooling are their Alienware desktops.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_cooling

davison111 · May 24, 2010

Overheating is one of the very serious problems. It may leave a hard drive dead and all the data inaccessible.

johndept1 · May 25, 2010

YOU HAVE SO MANY PROBLEM.
change your laptop.

tom982 · May 25, 2010

johndept1 said:
YOU HAVE SO MANY PROBLEM.
change your laptop.

If you don't have anything constructive to add to the thread, then please don't post it. We are trying to help

Katokato · May 25, 2010

If you want, you can try to underclock your cpu to make the cpu work less harder: CPU Undervolting & Underclocking: A Primer | silentpcreview.com

Is your temperature 80C under load or idle? Underload its normal temps for a laptop but if its idling at 80C then that is too hot.

Apply arctic silver on the processor: How To Correctly Apply Thermal Grease | Hardware Secrets

johndept1 · May 26, 2010

tom982 said:
johndept1 said:

YOU HAVE SO MANY PROBLEM.
change your laptop.

Click to expand...

If you don't have anything constructive to add to the thread, then please don't post it. We are trying to help

ok dear

tom982 · May 26, 2010

Katokato said:
Is your temperature 80C under load or idle? Underload its normal temps for a laptop but if its idling at 80C then that is too hot.

As you can see from his image (http://www.vistax64.com/attachments...47642t-three-problems-one-laptop-coretemp.jpg) he is experiencing a low temperature of 83 degrees and a high of 90 degrees, it looks like he's idling at these temperatures. And if you look at all of the task manager photos, unless he doesn't have much RAM, then he won't be under any load.

tom982 · May 26, 2010

Sorry, you're second and third problems have been completely ignored.

http://www.vistax64.com/sound-audio/166223-audio-service-has-large-number-memory-handles.html

I came across this thread whilst searching the forums, do you know whether this is similar to the problems which you are undergoing?

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