Lockup with sound loop, NO BSOD/Error report

lordbob75

lordbob75

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Alright, so I have looked around, and this issue seems semi-common, though I have not seen a single solution for it.

At the moment, my computer will freeze randomly. The sound will loop on a very short wave (so it sounds somewhat like static, but its obviously not). I have looked in the reliability and performance monitor, and the freeze is not only not listed, it has the gall to list the fact that I had to use the reset button to unlock it!

I suspect bad hardware, but I cannot be sure. I play sound through my iPod (for music) and when it freezes, the music can still be heard (in addition to the loop). So the mobo seems to be alright (maybe?). My first suspect was bad RAM, but I don't have any other RAM to try in it right now (yeah I know, I'm slacking). I tried to do a repair, but the Vista disk claims there is not enough space to do a repair on the boot mgr partition (wth?). I have not had a change to try the /sfc scannow, but I will ASAP. I am currently reinstalling Seven on it, so its busy.

This issue had gone away a while ago, but seems to have come back so...

Anyways, what I have done:
Booted into safe mode and ran like 100 virus scans (clean)
Tried (and failed) a Repair

WILL try /sfc

Any ideas or solutions?

~Lordbob
 

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lordbob75 said:
Alright, so I have looked around, and this issue seems semi-common, though I have not seen a single solution for it.

At the moment, my computer will freeze randomly. The sound will loop on a very short wave (so it sounds somewhat like static, but its obviously not). I have looked in the reliability and performance monitor, and the freeze is not only not listed, it has the gall to list the fact that I had to use the reset button to unlock it!

I suspect bad hardware, but I cannot be sure. I play sound through my iPod (for music) and when it freezes, the music can still be heard (in addition to the loop). So the mobo seems to be alright (maybe?). My first suspect was bad RAM, but I don't have any other RAM to try in it right now (yeah I know, I'm slacking). I tried to do a repair, but the Vista disk claims there is not enough space to do a repair on the boot mgr partition (wth?). I have not had a change to try the /sfc scannow, but I will ASAP. I am currently reinstalling Seven on it, so its busy.

This issue had gone away a while ago, but seems to have come back so...

Anyways, what I have done:
Booted into safe mode and ran like 100 virus scans (clean)
Tried (and failed) a Repair

WILL try /sfc

Any ideas or solutions?

~Lordbob
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Hi Bob, I would tend to go for software, the first thing that comes to mind is too many apps running at the same time, it could also be a software conflict.
Have you recently installed new software? or maybe used a reg cleaner?

Pooch
 

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Well, all I have been running is City of Villains, Firefox, and Chrome all at once. Thats it....

It may indeed have been the registry cleaner I used.... Would sfc /scannow fix those errors? It will not let me repair...

~Lordbob
 

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    ASUS P5QC
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    NVidia GeForce 9500GT 1Gb
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    Mobo
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    Samsung SyncMaster 206bw
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lordbob75 said:
It may indeed have been the registry cleaner I used.... Would sfc /scannow fix those errors? It will not let me repair...
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Not quite sure, Try it


lordbob75 said:
Well, all I have been running is City of Villains, Firefox, and Chrome all at once. Thats it....
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This would seem maybe more likely to be the problem, try running the programs seperately (if Poss) and in different combinations, maybe you will see a pattern.

Pooch
 

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    Phenom II x4 Black Edition 940-Arctic-Cooling Freezer Xtreme
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    Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe
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    8 gig Samsung PC800 RAM
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    NVidia 9600gt
    Sound Card
    AD1988b
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    22" TFT-MONITOR WIDESCREEN mit VGA/DVI 17" Video7 TFT
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    1680 : 1050 1280 : 1024
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    Drive #1 - SAMSUNG HD252HJ (250 GB) Drive #2 - Hitachi HDT721010SLA360 (1000 GB) Drive #3 - SAMSUNG HD250HJ (250 GB) Drive #4 - SAMSUNG HD103UJ (1000 GB) External eSATA
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    2x 120mm Front and Back 1x 250mm Side
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    Easy Line Laser Mouse
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    Standard
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    16000
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    I have also used Fedora, Suse, Ubuntu Linux And all other Windows from 95 to date except ME
Well, the other reason I don't think it is those programs, (and why I think it is a Vista problem) is because sometimes the freeze will happen at startup. When it is about to get to the log in screen. After I typed in my password before I even get to the desktop!

It is EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING.

~Lordbob
 

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    Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 2.33GHz
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    ASUS P5QC
    Memory
    2x2GB
    Graphics card(s)
    NVidia GeForce 9500GT 1Gb
    Sound Card
    Mobo
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster 206bw
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SP2514N ATA 250Gb 7200RPM Samsung [Model] 1Tb 7200RPM SATA2
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    Cooler Master Real Power Pro 750W
    Mouse
    Razer Lachesis
    Keyboard
    Razer Tarantula
    Internet Speed
    not fast enough
lordbob75 said:
Well, the other reason I don't think it is those programs, (and why I think it is a Vista problem) is because sometimes the freeze will happen at startup. When it is about to get to the log in screen. After I typed in my password before I even get to the desktop!

It is EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING.

~Lordbob
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OK type msconfig in the Start Search, click on msconfig.exe accept the UAC go to the Services tab, put a tick in the box to hide all microsoft services, and disable all the rest. and then try to get it to stick again.

You could also test the RAM, but I think this is more hardware and would result in a blue screen.

You could also check your drivers
 

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    NVidia 9600gt
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    22" TFT-MONITOR WIDESCREEN mit VGA/DVI 17" Video7 TFT
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    Drive #1 - SAMSUNG HD252HJ (250 GB) Drive #2 - Hitachi HDT721010SLA360 (1000 GB) Drive #3 - SAMSUNG HD250HJ (250 GB) Drive #4 - SAMSUNG HD103UJ (1000 GB) External eSATA
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Well I did scannow, and I will let it sit for a while and see if that fixes it. If not, I will try the diagnostic boot and spend a week trying to figure out what is causing it >_<

Oh well. Thanks pooch, will let you know how it is coming.

~Lordbob
 

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    Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 2.33GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS P5QC
    Memory
    2x2GB
    Graphics card(s)
    NVidia GeForce 9500GT 1Gb
    Sound Card
    Mobo
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster 206bw
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
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    Samsung SP2514N ATA 250Gb 7200RPM Samsung [Model] 1Tb 7200RPM SATA2
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    Cooler Master Real Power Pro 750W
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    Razer Lachesis
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    Razer Tarantula
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    not fast enough
lordbob75 said:
Well I did scannow, and I will let it sit for a while and see if that fixes it. If not, I will try the diagnostic boot and spend a week trying to figure out what is causing it >_<

Oh well. Thanks pooch, will let you know how it is coming.

~Lordbob
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Just to add to what Pooch is saying, here's a test which can give you a clearer indication of whether it's software or hardware...

1) Find and connect a PS/2 keyboard. (USB ain't as useful for this test, for reasons not simple to explain.)

2) Add "CrashOnCtrlScroll" registry value and reboot, as per:

3) Test (once) whether the Ctrl+ScrLk+ScrLk keystroke combo successfully triggers a bluescreen while the machine is running normally after a reboot. If so, you're ready for the actual point of the whole exercise...

4) The next time one of your lockups occurs, press Ctrl+ScrLk+ScrLk again. If a BSoD occurs, the lockup is almost certainly caused by software (and analysing a BSoD full dump would likely reveal the nature of the issue, as an exercise for the reader). Otherwise, if nothing happens despite you mangling Ctrl+ScrLk+ScrLk many times, the odds of a hardware defect just went up tenfold.

The i8042prt.sys PS/2 keyboard driver works at a very high internal priority level (IRQL) within the OS. If the cause of the lockup is somewhere in software, the driver should be able to override (almost) anything else that may be happening and successfully trigger a BSoD in response to that keyboard sequence.

Good luck with it.
 

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Try connecting your hard drive to a different SATA port on your motherboard.

I've encountered this problem quite a lot over my last 3 computers and I've never found a proper solution. The last time I had it, switching SATA ports fixed it.
 

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