Vista licensing question

J

JWhipple

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So I just upgraded from Windows XP to Vista x64.

Since I got the retail packaged upgrade, I have both the x64 and x32 DVDs.

I think I know the answer already, but, I take it that licensing would not allow me to activate both the x32 and x64 versions on the same PC, or seperate PCs for that matter?

Thanks for humoring me!
 

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Nope you can only use one version at a time.
 

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Is it safe to assume that I couldn't run a 2nd instance of Vista (either version) on Microsoft Virtual Machine 2007 either?

Thanks for the quick reply!
 

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I'm not sure about VM licencing.
 

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If anyone knows, please let me know :-)

Thanks again!
 

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    2x BFG Geforce 7600GT in SLI mode
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    Soundblaster Audigy 2
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    Big ol' 21 inch Gateway LCD monitor
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    1680x1050
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    160GB SATA1 (Western Digital) 500GB USB External (Western Digital)
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    600 Watt BFG
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    Logitech G7
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    Logitech G15
DOH! Not the answer I wanted to hear LOL but thank you! :-)
 

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    2x BFG Geforce 7600GT in SLI mode
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    Soundblaster Audigy 2
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    Big ol' 21 inch Gateway LCD monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
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    160GB SATA1 (Western Digital) 500GB USB External (Western Digital)
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    600 Watt BFG
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There's nothing stopping anyone from installing the same licensed version on the same machine twice.
I've been doing that for years with both XP and now Vista. I have one for my main stuff and one for testing.
I've never had any activation problems.
 

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    Win 10 Pro x64 x 2
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    Alienware ALX x58
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    Intel® Core™ i7-975 Extreme O/C to 4.02 GHz, 8MB Cache
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    Asus® P6T Deluxe V2 X58 LGA1366
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    24GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 6 x 4096MB
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    1792 MB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 295 Dual Core
    Sound Card
    Onboard Soundmax® High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio
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    Samsung XL2370 HD LED backlit 23" W/S 2ms response time
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    2 x 500gb SATA II 1 x 1TB SATA II 1 external eSATA LaCie 3TB (Non-RAID)
    PSU
    Alienware® 1200 Watt Multi-GPU
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    Unique
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    4 case fans @ CPU water cooling.
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    1gb/s up and down
Yes but it is against the EULA ;)
 

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    Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Formula
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    Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 64GB (4x16GB) 3600MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4
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    ASUS AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT 16GB ROG Strix LC OC
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    Creative
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 x27" Dell U2724D & 1 x 34" Dell U3415W
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    Samsung 980 Pro 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 NVMe Solid State Drive
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    1500W ThermalTake Toughpower
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    Enermax Liqtech 240
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    Logitech Performance MX
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    Logitech
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    350 Mb/s
My understanding is that the OP referenced to "RUNNING" them both at same time with only one lisence. Assuming one was going to be in a VM, if the VM was running, 2 lisences's would be required, one for the host OS and one for the guest OS
 

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I'm only running one at a time in a multi-boot situation, so is it really aganst the EULA in my case? I've discussed this so many times in so many forums and everytime, eventually it's decided that my setup is perfectly legal.
 

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    Asus® P6T Deluxe V2 X58 LGA1366
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    1792 MB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 295 Dual Core
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    Onboard Soundmax® High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio
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    Samsung XL2370 HD LED backlit 23" W/S 2ms response time
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    1920 x 1080
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    2 x 500gb SATA II 1 x 1TB SATA II 1 external eSATA LaCie 3TB (Non-RAID)
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"Alternative Versions. The software may include more than one version, such as 32-bit and 64-bit. You may use only one version at one time."

This could be taken a couple of different ways based on this verbiage.

1) You can only have one version activated even if two are included. This means that you can not switch between versions.
2) You can only use one version at a time on the same machine. This means that you can have both installed but only one running at the same time.

I'm sure there are even more ways that it could be taken, but honestly, I don't feel like consulting my attorney any time I install a piece of software. I would rather just use the one and stick with it if it means that they potentially may deactivate the piece of software that I just paid big coin for.
 

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    AMD Athlon 64x2 3800+ (Socket 939)
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    MSI K8N SLI
    Memory
    2GB Corsair DDR in dual channel mode
    Graphics card(s)
    2x BFG Geforce 7600GT in SLI mode
    Sound Card
    Soundblaster Audigy 2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Big ol' 21 inch Gateway LCD monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    160GB SATA1 (Western Digital) 500GB USB External (Western Digital)
    PSU
    600 Watt BFG
    Mouse
    Logitech G7
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    Logitech G15
OK. I quote:
You may use only one version at one time.
Click to expand...
and
You may uninstall the software and install it on another device for your use. You may not do so to share this license between devices.
Click to expand...
I don't see anything else that really restricts what I'm doing here.

In my own help and support I read the following:

1. OVERVIEW.
a. Software. The software includes desktop operating system software. This software does not include Windows Live services. Windows Live is a service available from Microsoft under a separate agreement.
b. License Model. The software is licensed on a per copy per device basis.
c. Edition Specific Rights. See the Additional License Terms sections at the end of this agreement for license terms that apply to specific editions of the software.
2. INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS. Before you use the software under a license, you must assign that license to one device (physical hardware system). That device is the “licensed device.” A hardware partition or blade is considered to be a separate device.
a. Licensed Device. You may install one copy of the software on the licensed device. You may use the software on up to two processors on that device at one time. Except as provided in the Storage and Network Use (Ultimate edition) sections below, you may not use the software on any other device.
Click to expand...

I'm a bit confused with the last bit...in red and pink (my idea, sorry), as to their exact interpretation.
 

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  • Operating System
    Win 10 Pro x64 x 2
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware ALX x58
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    Intel® Core™ i7-975 Extreme O/C to 4.02 GHz, 8MB Cache
    Motherboard
    Asus® P6T Deluxe V2 X58 LGA1366
    Memory
    24GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 6 x 4096MB
    Graphics card(s)
    1792 MB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 295 Dual Core
    Sound Card
    Onboard Soundmax® High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung XL2370 HD LED backlit 23" W/S 2ms response time
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    2 x 500gb SATA II 1 x 1TB SATA II 1 external eSATA LaCie 3TB (Non-RAID)
    PSU
    Alienware® 1200 Watt Multi-GPU
    Case
    Unique
    Cooling
    4 case fans @ CPU water cooling.
    Internet Speed
    1gb/s up and down
Again, I have always read it, one install = one lisence, two instals = two licenses's, unless of course ya got a multi install lisence. More expensive, yup, definately legal, yup
 

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Well I appear to be in the wrong, but so far, and it's been quite a long time, I've never had any issues, problems or any red flags from 1 Microsoft Way.
 

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  • Operating System
    Win 10 Pro x64 x 2
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    Alienware ALX x58
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    Intel® Core™ i7-975 Extreme O/C to 4.02 GHz, 8MB Cache
    Motherboard
    Asus® P6T Deluxe V2 X58 LGA1366
    Memory
    24GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 6 x 4096MB
    Graphics card(s)
    1792 MB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 295 Dual Core
    Sound Card
    Onboard Soundmax® High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung XL2370 HD LED backlit 23" W/S 2ms response time
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    2 x 500gb SATA II 1 x 1TB SATA II 1 external eSATA LaCie 3TB (Non-RAID)
    PSU
    Alienware® 1200 Watt Multi-GPU
    Case
    Unique
    Cooling
    4 case fans @ CPU water cooling.
    Internet Speed
    1gb/s up and down
The following extract is taken from the Vista EULA:

"INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS. Before you use the software under a license, you must assign that license to one device (physical hardware system). That device is the 'licensed device'. A hardware partition or blade is considered to be a separate device.

a) Licensed Device. You may install one copy of the software on upto two processors on that device at one time. Except as provided in the Storage and Network Use (Ultimate edition) sections below, you may not use the software on any other device.

b) Number of Users. Except as provided in the Device Connections (all editions), Remote Access Technologies (Home Basic and Home Premium editions) and Other Access Technologies (Ultimate edition) sections below, only one user may use the software at a time.

c) Alternative Versions. The software may include more than one version, such as 32-bit and 64-bit. You may use only one version at one time."

By this, I interpret it to mean that you cannot use VM technology to install a second copy of Vista on the same machine without a separate license. There is NO difference here between a copy of the SAME Vista (using the same license key) on one machine with another copy of the same running under VM technology on the same machine and two copies of the SAME Vista running on separate machines. You will need a SEPARATE license key for each copy, although you can use the same physical DVD to install from.

For further information, please see the following link.

http://download.microsoft.com/documents/useterms/Windows%20Vista_Ultimate_English_36d0fe99-75e4-4875-8153-889cf5105718.pdf
 

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    4 x 4GB DDR3-1600 Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B (16GB)
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    ViewSonic VA1912w Widescreen
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    XFX Pro Series 850W Semi-Modular
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    Gigabyte IF233
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So Dwarf,

I'm wrong...or...? Actually at the moment I only have one copy installed on my machine but I was using two.
 

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System One

  • Operating System
    Win 10 Pro x64 x 2
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware ALX x58
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-975 Extreme O/C to 4.02 GHz, 8MB Cache
    Motherboard
    Asus® P6T Deluxe V2 X58 LGA1366
    Memory
    24GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 6 x 4096MB
    Graphics card(s)
    1792 MB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 295 Dual Core
    Sound Card
    Onboard Soundmax® High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung XL2370 HD LED backlit 23" W/S 2ms response time
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    2 x 500gb SATA II 1 x 1TB SATA II 1 external eSATA LaCie 3TB (Non-RAID)
    PSU
    Alienware® 1200 Watt Multi-GPU
    Case
    Unique
    Cooling
    4 case fans @ CPU water cooling.
    Internet Speed
    1gb/s up and down
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