Error installing Vista x64

christof21 · May 30, 2008

Hi guys. I'm in need of some help.

I'm trying to install Vista Ultimate x64, but I keep getting an error message from windows boot manager. It gets past the "windows is loading setup files" bit then I get the message.

My system has changed a little bit, so I'll give you a background.

I'm was running an AMD x2 5600+, 2GB ram, with an MSI m/b. I had a single 320GB HD that was partitioned so I had a dual boot XP+vista 32bit machine. Everything working fine.

I upgraded my motherboard to the new ATI SB700 version M/B, and put 4GB of ram in.

I had to re-format my HD and re-install XP Pro, which has worked a treat. When I tried to install Vista from then on, X86 or X64 version, it would give me the error message and wouldn't let me install vista. I tried to install a 64bit version of Ubuntu to test, but I still got the same error message.

I have run the FIXMBR command from the XP recovery console, but still no luck.

Error message is:-

WINDOWS BOOT MANAGER

windows failed to start. A recent hardware or software change might be the cause

file: \windows\system32\boot\winload.exe
status: 0xc000035a
info: attempting to load 64 bit application, cpu not compatable with 64 bit mode.

Any ideas? :confused:

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sidney1st · May 30, 2008

Hi Christof,
Welcome to the Vista forums.

Can you check your CPU with: http://www.cpuid.com/download/cpuz_145.zip

christof21 · May 30, 2008

yeah no probs here it is. I know it's a 64bit CPU, as I built the system myself.

sidney1st · May 30, 2008

Yep, i know this cpu but sometimes it is not recognize as X86-64 an may occur some 64 problems.
As your mobo is new, did you check your bios configuration?

christof21 · May 30, 2008

I've checked the bios becasue originally I was getting the BSOD at install telling me my bios wasn't ACPI compatabpe, but I checked this in the bios and it is, and it was already enabled in the bios.

sidney1st · May 30, 2008

Re-format the partition in which you want to install Vista and try again.

ZazaBB · May 30, 2008

Assuming that your BIOS is set correctly and all other things being equal, I suggest getting a Win98 Boot disk with FDISK on it. Either a floppy or CD is fine.

You can get one from the following site:

WWW.BOOTDISK.COM

Boot with that, run FDISK and delete ALL partitions found, regardless of type.

Afterwards, when all partitions are gone, eascape back to a prompt, and BEFORE you reboot, go back to fdisk running this command FDISK /MBR

It will appear to do nothing, but it did.

Reboot with the OS install disk of your choice and install. IF the problem was in fact remnants left on your HD, this will solve it.

Hope that helps.

christof21 · May 30, 2008

thanks for the help guys. I was afraid I might have to start over again with the hard drive!

Oh well you live and learn. lol. I'm gonna have to back up all my files and stuff first before I do all that. That's going to be fun.

sidney1st · May 30, 2008

I suppose that your "vista" partition is empty, so no problem.

christof21 · May 30, 2008

I don't have any partitions now. When I changed my hardware I had to re-format the HD. So I've got 1 drive now with XP pro on it.

I partitioned it with Paragon partition manager, but the vista installation still doesn't work.

ZazaBB · May 30, 2008

Are you trying to do a multi-boot or just get a working copy of Vista 64?

If you just want to get Vista 64 up and running, do what I suggested above with the Win98 bootdisk and you should be golden.

If you are multi-booting, I'm afraid you're on your own. Sorry.

dmex · May 30, 2008

christof21 said:
I partitioned it with Paragon partition manager, but the vista installation still doesn't work.

Yeah 3rd Party partition programs have serious problems creating NTFS filesystems for Vista to use properly, XP or Vista must create the filesystem.

Steven

sidney1st · May 30, 2008

christof21 said:
I don't have any partitions now. When I changed my hardware I had to re-format the HD. So I've got 1 drive now with XP pro on it.

I partitioned it with Paragon partition manager, but the vista installation still doesn't work.

You, of course, need a partition or a second hdd to install dualboot with XP.
Please give us the details of your hdd now you have created a new partition.
XP should give you the details in the computer management console (disk management)

wesley · May 30, 2008

I had a similar problem when installing Vista x64. Turned out it was my memory- 2GB sticks. Vista wouldn't install with two of them in so I took one out, installed windows, put the other back in once windows was set up and it worked. Discard this information if you are using 1GB sticks.

christof21 · May 31, 2008

You, of course, need a partition or a second hdd to install dualboot with XP.
Please give us the details of your hdd now you have created a new partition.
XP should give you the details in the computer management console (disk management)

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg195/ctaylor3_2007/HDDsetup.jpg

I had a similar problem when installing Vista x64. Turned out it was my memory- 2GB sticks. Vista wouldn't install with two of them in so I took one out, installed windows, put the other back in once windows was set up and it worked.

My friend has just installed Ultimate x64 on his machine with no problems. He's using 2 x 2GB memory sticks. Only difference is that he's installed onto a second HDD.

SCSIraidGURU · May 31, 2008

I did not think you can install any 64-bit OS over a 32-bit OS. It needed a clean install? You could dual boot XP Pro and Vista x64.

ZazaBB · May 31, 2008

SCSIraidGURU said:
I did not think you can install any 64-bit OS over a 32-bit OS. It needed a clean install? You could dual boot XP Pro and Vista x64.

I agree.

There is info stored in the MBR that just doesn't go away easily, which is usually a problem installing either XP x64 or Vista x64.

If anyone has installed XP Pro over XP Home, and I am talking an overwrite, not upgrade, you may have seen TWO different startup menu options....

Windows XP Home
Windows XP Pro

The reason is remnants of the old OS linger on the drive.

This is why I am adamant about a clean HD, with no partitions and a clean MBR using the old Win98 boot disk method. It has never failed me yet.

I think the only solution here is to get another drive and dual boot that way.

Not the answer you wanted, I'm sure, but you can't always getwhat you want. At least that's what the Rolling Stones said.

As a side note, while I have not done it, I would think Vista x64 and XP Pro x64 would co-exist ok, just as Vista x64 and Vista x86 will.

Hope that helps.

christof21 · May 31, 2008

SCSIraidGURU said:
I did not think you can install any 64-bit OS over a 32-bit OS. It needed a clean install? You could dual boot XP Pro and Vista x64.

Yeah that's pretty much what I'm trying to do. Have a dual boot for XP pro and Vista X64, but on the same HD. It's looking like more effort than it's worth now though! lol

ZazaBB said:
This is why I am adamant about a clean HD, with no partitions and a clean MBR using the old Win98 boot disk method. It has never failed me yet.

I think the only solution here is to get another drive and dual boot that way.

I think the new hard drive is gonna save me the frustration. The cost of HD's now it makes sense. I can get a 750GB SATA2 for a couple of quid over £50 from Aria now.

Part of the fun for me is trying to solve the problem :geek:

SCSIraidGURU · May 31, 2008

Dual boot is easy. You do them in legacy order. 32-bit before 64-bit.

Backup and blank the drive. Start clean. Move everything to an external drive and unplug it.

Install XP Pro in C: as primary partition. It holds the boot and system partitions. Make it 30-40GB.

When installed, service pack and patch it to latest.

Once done. Install your next OS. Do it in an extended partition with logical partitions. You don't need primary for it.

C: the boot files will install here

D: or E: system partition for your next OS.

ZazaBB · May 31, 2008

This sounds interesting.....

Let me get this correct....

You say that you start with XP Pro x86 and install to primary partition, which will now be "C".

Then, you install Vista x64 to a new partition, but an extended partition, which will become "D". All O/S 64 files EXCEPT the boot files will be on "D", whilst the x64 boot files will also reside on "C".

Assumedly, another partition, "E" will be created afterwards that will be shared by both O/S's for data.

Is that correct?

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