Crysis Warhead Ambient Occlusion

MrNeeds · Jan 12, 2009

Everlong18 said:
Dunno if drivers can actually damage cards. One guy on the GTA forums on Steam said the 180.84s damaged his. Said he rebooted and nothing came on his screen and couldn't use his comp, but these 185.20's seem to be fine (not used myself still, though). I've read a bit about them on various forums and nobody has said anything bad about them.

I'll definitely get the beta drivers with ambient occlusion in them. The Crysis Warhead AO looks great, so looking forward to trying other games with it.

i dont know if its just me, but when i put that code on the end of the config file, everything is really dark, the floor is indestinguishable. just looks like a TV with contrast turned right down.

Everlong · Jan 12, 2009

I thought it looked better to me. Defined everything more with better shadows.

MrNeeds · Jan 12, 2009

Everlong18 said:
I thought it looked better to me. Defined everything more with better shadows.

il do it again but il take pics this time
edit: pics added, tried to compare as close as i could.
the pics are in 1-2 form, 1st one and 2nd one need to be compared, 3rd & 4th etc..

Everlong · Jan 12, 2009

Yea it does get a lot darker like that when the sun's down.
I took a few too with the sun just rising, to when it had properly risen:

Everlong · Jan 12, 2009

As this is a new thread from what was posted in the Nvidia driver thread, you can find how to enable ambient occlusion in Crysis Warhead in this thread:

http://www.vistax64.com/933930-post46.html

MrNeeds · Jan 12, 2009

Everlong18 said:
Yea it does get a lot darker like that when the sun's down.
I took a few too with the sun just rising, to when it had properly risen:

mine doesnt look anything like that, the first two photos are during the darkest points but its practically impossible to see where your going after the first cutscene (the frozen hole and burning huts), navigating through that took me 5 minutes because i couldnt see anything, even with flashlight and nightvision.

Everlong · Jan 13, 2009

What graphic settings are you using? Mine are enthusiast for everything.

MrNeeds · Jan 13, 2009

Everlong18 said:
What graphic settings are you using? Mine are enthusiast for everything.

pics of settings below, res @ 1920x1080 everything enthusiast
i think that the lighting effects look better, but theres some code i found highly suspicious, maybe if i delete that specific code and see if it changes the brightness.
last 3 pictures sums the code up really, shadows are more defined with the code but delete the last line of code, or alter it to not be so dark.
the first pic is without any code, second pic is with the original code and the 3rd picture is with the altered code.(last line deleted)

AstaLaVista · Jan 13, 2009

I was playing Warhead with my old ECS 8800GT card and I don't recall my images being that dark, can't recall if I was using Enthusiast and/or 1680 x 1050 though.

Since I am not playing any games now, I am going to fire up Warhead tonite and try to play it with Default setting set from the game with my new EVGA GTX260 to see what I get, then I'll try the TWEAK for AO to see if I see any difference.

If I wasn't so lazy, I would also try the differences between using my GTX260 with and w/o the tweak and then, adding my ECS 8800GT as PhysX card along with my GTX260 to see if I gain or loose FPS's but I don't think my PSU is capable of handling both cards though.

MrNeeds · Jan 13, 2009

AstaLaVista said:
I was playing Warhead with my old ECS 8800GT card and I don't recall my images being that dark, can't recall if I was using Enthusiast and/or 1680 x 1050 though.

Since I am not playing any games now, I am going to fire up Warhead tonite and try to play it with Default setting set from the game with my new EVGA GTX260 to see what I get, then I'll try the TWEAK for AO to see if I see any difference.

If I wasn't so lazy, I would also try the differences between using my GTX260 with and w/o the tweak and then, adding my ECS 8800GT as PhysX card along with my GTX260 to see if I gain or loose FPS's but I don't think my PSU is capable of handling both cards though.

see, ive been debating wherther i can do that with an 8500gt, i want to use a non sli config with 2 completely different cards.

skunksmash · Jan 13, 2009

im about to grab a dedicated physX card, after some research it looks like the best all round card for this task is a 9500GT

anything requiring its own power source is overkill for physX....

i have seen some promising benches which show up to a 10fps increase with a GTX280 as the primary & the 9500GT in tow.

my P5K premium is CFX enabled but the 2nd slot is only @ x4

so its not really suited for a substantial dual GPU setup, but its perfect for a physX boost.

in reality even very slow cards will calculate physX faster than the CPU, so if you have a spare slot its certainly worth considering

SK

Everlong · Jan 13, 2009

You can do it with any 8 series card afaik.

8 series and upwards support Physx, but the 9 series and up do it best.

I was thinking, at the end of the year I'll most likely upgrade to a DX11 card, and sell one of my 8800s and keep the 2nd one for Physx until I save up to buy a second DX11 card, then sell the last 8800 as I only have 2 PCI-E slots on this mobo.

AstaLaVista · Jan 14, 2009

MrNeeds said:
AstaLaVista said:

I was playing Warhead with my old ECS 8800GT card and I don't recall my images being that dark, can't recall if I was using Enthusiast and/or 1680 x 1050 though.

Since I am not playing any games now, I am going to fire up Warhead tonite and try to play it with Default setting set from the game with my new EVGA GTX260 to see what I get, then I'll try the TWEAK for AO to see if I see any difference.

If I wasn't so lazy, I would also try the differences between using my GTX260 with and w/o the tweak and then, adding my ECS 8800GT as PhysX card along with my GTX260 to see if I gain or loose FPS's but I don't think my PSU is capable of handling both cards though.

Click to expand...

see, ive been debating wherther i can do that with an 8500gt, i want to use a non sli config with 2 completely different cards.

Tried yesterday to play Warhead & GRAW2 with both cards and I can tell you that I had horrible fps's on both, more on GRAW 2 than Warhead but horrible nonetheless... seat of the pants benchmark of course.

I'll get off my lazy butt tonight and see if I take the 8800GT out and test it again to see what happens.

I am sure getting confusing answers from people regarding whether my PSU is capable of handling both cards though and I would hate to spruce for a new one only to have the same problem.

But I digress... at 1280 x 1024 (games Optimal option for my hardware, and everything at Gamer), my images looked good and not as dark as what you guys have posted so, this is baffling me more to say the least

skunksmash · Jan 14, 2009

what do you think Everlong..??

AstaLaVista..... what is the actual code for your PSU, if its this one you should have no trouble running SLI 88GTs

SK

AstaLaVista · Jan 14, 2009

skunk, is that benchmark tool from within the Warhead files?

No on the PSU, mine is the ToughPower and not the PurePower, although, it sure looks to have the same outputs.

Can you guys look at the link below, I just went to slickdeals and they have a sweet deal on a 750w PSU

http://www.vistax64.com/general-discussion/203999-how-would-you-rate-psu.html#post939451

Sorry to highjack the thread

AstaLaVista · Jan 14, 2009

I just did a test with this playing Crysis Warhead and well, just as I expected, having both cards hinder my FPS's instead of making any gains... these was done both with "Seat of the Pants" software and "Fraps"

2009-01-14 18:46:49 - Crysis
Frames: 6582 - Time: 182341ms - Avg: 36.097 - Min: 25 - Max: 76
EVGA GTX260 + ECS 8800GT

2009-01-14 19:49:35 - Crysis
Frames: 35591 - Time: 821599ms - Avg: 43.319 - Min: 12 - Max: 82
EVGA GTX260 Only

See for yourself, perhaps not a big deal but enough to make you sad since, according to them, having 2 cards would increase your frame rates and not lower them. Now, all I have to do is wait for my new PSU to come in and test this again. Hopefully (for my wallet's sake), my current PSU will be the culprit! :cool:

P.S.: skunsmash, I was able to find the framebuffer proggie but after installing (unable to Run as Admin to install), it gives me an error about the app needing to be run as admin but, even if I go to properties, the Run as admin button is greyed out so I am not able to do so... what did you do to be able to run this? I guess I didn't read the instructions

Also, I see that your rig is similar to mine, and even though my E7200 is stock, how are you able to run at those benchmarks on warhead?

skunksmash · Jan 15, 2009

the warhead benchmark needs to be downloaded ..... just type ''warhead benchmark'' into google for the location.....

SK

MrNeeds · Jan 15, 2009

AstaLaVista said:
I just did a test with this playing Crysis Warhead and well, just as I expected, having both cards hinder my FPS's instead of making any gains... these was done both with "Seat of the Pants" software and "Fraps"

2009-01-14 18:46:49 - Crysis
Frames: 6582 - Time: 182341ms - Avg: 36.097 - Min: 25 - Max: 76
EVGA GTX260 + ECS 8800GT

Click to expand...

2009-01-14 19:49:35 - Crysis
Frames: 35591 - Time: 821599ms - Avg: 43.319 - Min: 12 - Max: 82
EVGA GTX260 Only

Click to expand...

See for yourself, perhaps not a big deal but enough to make you sad since, according to them, having 2 cards would increase your frame rates and not lower them. Now, all I have to do is wait for my new PSU to come in and test this again. Hopefully (for my wallet's sake), my current PSU will be the culprit!

P.S.: skunsmash, I was able to find the framebuffer proggie but after installing (unable to Run as Admin to install), it gives me an error about the app needing to be run as admin but, even if I go to properties, the Run as admin button is greyed out so I am not able to do so... what did you do to be able to run this? I guess I didn't read the instructions

Also, I see that your rig is similar to mine, and even though my E7200 is stock, how are you able to run at those benchmarks on warhead?

looks like the extra card has made some difference, just read between the lines, looks to me that the 8800gt has made the games framerate more "stable", with the 260 on its own, it cant retain the frameflow above 15fps, where as the lowest the 2 cards are 25, very playable if you ask me.

AstaLaVista · Jan 15, 2009

I hear what you're saying but, seat of the pants, I was not able to notice the low fps changes with only 1 card but I was able to feel some slowness with both cards. I guess only time will tell and I am, for sure, going to try this again once my new PSU gets here.

Another thing, I have downloaded the WHBT and I am hoping this one will work better than the one I got last night.

One last Q? Did you force those resolution in your benchmark or did you get them by settng the Optimal settings inside the game options? I can't get mine past 1280 x 1024 unless I force them.

skunksmash · Jan 15, 2009

thats strange..??? i never forced the res, it gives me the options from 640x480 to 1680x1050

SK

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