Warcraft iii spike problems.

KyleDNgo · Aug 13, 2008

lag... is horrible lately..
I'm not sure what the problem is... but one of the vista updates
has been giving me lag spikes horribly

Spd2Last · Aug 13, 2008

Hi Kyle,

Can you post up your system specs? Also, is the spiking occurring during offline play or online? Wired or wireless internet?

KyleDNgo · Aug 13, 2008

Wireless

and system specs =

Intel(r) Core(TM)2DuoCPU 7250 @2.00GHZ

3.00GB Ram
Nvidia Geoforce 8600

Spd2Last · Aug 13, 2008

If the lag spikes occur every other minute or so, I recommended downloading this little program that will disable a "feature" in Vista that searches for a better, stronger wireless network therefore causing hiccups.
WLAN Optimizer

Let me know if it helps

KyleDNgo · Aug 13, 2008

didnt seem to work =[

Fumz · Aug 13, 2008

Are you using a firewall; either the Windows Firewall or another third party app?

KyleDNgo · Aug 13, 2008

using pcillin

Spd2Last · Aug 13, 2008

Ok, let's ping your router to see if the spiking is from your home connection or the internet. To find your router's IP, right click on the network icon on the bottom right of the task bar and select Network and Sharing Center > Manage Network Connections (on the left side) > double click your Wireless Connection > Details
Mark down the number beside IPv4 Default Gateway. This is your router's IP.

Now click the Start Orb > All Programs > Accessories > Command Prompt
Type in "ping [your router's IP] -t" without the quotation marks. An example would look like:
C:\Users\You>ping 192.168.1.1 -t

Hit enter. You will see a long list start to form, but the important part is the time=#ms
Keep an eye on that number. It should remain very low, 1s 2s 3s are fine. If you notice it hops to a big number every once in a while, then the spiking problem is between your computer and the router, but if the time remains small, then the problem may be to the server you are connecting to in your game or even your internet.
To stop the pinging, press Ctrl+c

Let us know, then we'll be able to continue troubleshooting

Fumz · Aug 13, 2008

KyleDNgo said:
using pcillin

When you're done following Spd2Last's instructions, check to see if pcillan has an option for 'game mode'... or some language similar to that. Also make sure that your Windows Firewall is disabled if you're running a third party app. I take it you're also using pcillan's anti-virus? If so, and it's a program you have loaded at startup, then you'll want to exclude the game from the scanner. There should be something in your options page that allows you to do this fairly easily. I don't use pcillan, so I can't tell you the exact language or path to follow, but it shouldn't be that difficult to sort out.

KyleDNgo · Aug 14, 2008

am i opposto ping when im in wc3? or.. not?

when im not it stays constant at 1 or 2ms

KyleDNgo · Aug 14, 2008

but.. when i do have the game running it spikes up to 4-6-7 range

Spd2Last · Aug 14, 2008

Ok, well this means that you have a good stable connection at home with your router.

Now let's try pinging Google since it's generally a very stable site. So open up the command prompt again, and instead of writing your router IP, write "www.google.com"
So, it should look like: C:\Users\You>ping www.google.com -t
And again let it run for a while and look at the time. The time will be more than 1-2ms (at least for me it's anywhere from 29-35 when there isn't any network activity on my network, but your's will vary depending on your connection). Keep an eye on that time since it will tell us your overall internet connection quality. Also, I'm assuming you are from the US, do you have Time Warner as your internet provider? There have been reports lately of many Time Warner users having connection problems with WoW (so perhaps it's having the same effect on Warcraft 3).

Which reminds me now, is there anybody else that connects to your network at home? They may have been downloading torrents or big files that were using your bandwidth. Try to do the pinging test without anybody else using the internet.

EDIT: This forum automatically changes written websites to a link with the site's title, so just in case it does it again, you should ping w w w. g o o g l e. c o m without the spaces.

KyleDNgo · Aug 15, 2008

it pings from 24 up to 147 at one time during the ping process
and yes i have time warner

Spd2Last · Aug 15, 2008

KyleDNgo said:
it pings from 24 up to 147 at one time during the ping process
and yes i have time warner

When the ping went up to 147, was it happening constantly or just that one time? How long are you letting the ping run?
Here's a thread pointing to the WoW/Time Warner problems.
WoW Forums -> TimeWarner/RoadRunner-Connection Issues 2
Most people have a problem with latency and disconnections. They may be of more help to you over there than here since the problem appears to be your internet connection rather than the PC.

Squa190 · Oct 22, 2008

Spd2Last said:
Ok, let's ping your router to see if the spiking is from your home connection or the internet. To find your router's IP, right click on the network icon on the bottom right of the task bar and select Network and Sharing Center > Manage Network Connections (on the left side) > double click your Wireless Connection > Details
Mark down the number beside IPv4 Default Gateway. This is your router's IP.

Now click the Start Orb > All Programs > Accessories > Command Prompt
Type in "ping [your router's IP] -t" without the quotation marks. An example would look like:
C:\Users\You>ping 192.168.1.1 -t

Hit enter. You will see a long list start to form, but the important part is the time=#ms
Keep an eye on that number. It should remain very low, 1s 2s 3s are fine. If you notice it hops to a big number every once in a while, then the spiking problem is between your computer and the router, but if the time remains small, then the problem may be to the server you are connecting to in your game or even your internet.
To stop the pinging, press Ctrl+c

Let us know, then we'll be able to continue troubleshooting

I was searching the forums and came upon this thread/post. I play a game called Warrock and have been experiencing a cyclical lag spike. While playing I will go from a smooth 128 fps to 4-5 fps for 4-6 seconds (as a reference for what I experince) Anyway, This problem sounded similar and after many many hours searching forums, dealing with Comcast Cable, and much frustration, I figured finally finding out where the spike was (to router- i.e. my computer or the connection/net itself) would be great. I blotted out my isp gateway address but as you can see there are two issues.

1) 6-7 ms ping times to router (Im betting Windows Firewall which I havent touched since buying the computer 4 weeks ago). I did another run with AVira Anti-Virus off and the only difference was with it off its 1 ms faster. So its not the AV. What else could this be and what settings would I need to have for the Firewall that won't leave me wide open to hacks, viruses, and the such.

2) The lag spike. The times are true but after letting it run the spike occurs regularly but at a slower frequency. Any ideas. I'm guessing most likely some service but the spike happens even when I run SmartClose which kills all unnessary processes and services. Click on my system specs to get my info and please ask for info if you need it.

Any help I can get would be really appreciate it. the test was done while nothing was running/open except Anti-V as I stated and c:\ prompt window.

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