Two Vista Loads 1 works other 1 gives error winload.exe

Gday

My husbands PC is driving me insane. First it crashed, I believe virus related, he was running Win2k which meant no AV. I told him to update his OS, but he doesn't like spending money on his PC (I built the tower for him)

So anyways, in order to keep him quiet, and off my PC, I installed Vista, on a 40gb IDE partitioned HD ( so each has roughly 20GB each).

I knew that this IDE hd wasn't going to be big enough, however I installed it to keep him quiet for the time.

I then went and bought a new 1TB sata hd, threw it in thw tower, booted up into the bios to start, yup it was there. Booted into windows to make sure it was there.

It was. Now because I wanted Vista to go onto the new sata drive. I reinstalled Vista, deleted the os that that was on his IDE hd, selected the new sata hd, and started to install.

It was all going well, almost made it to the end, then I got a black screen "Boot Manager" Winload.exe is missing or corrupt - 0xc000000f".

So the google to fix began, I have tried the bootrec.exe options, I have also tried the repair option using the Vista DVD.

Now this is where I get totally lost and more and more frustrated.
When his PC boots up, there are two Vista boot options, if I let it default to the first, windows boots up, but into his 20GB partiton.

If select the second boot I get Boot Manager" Winload.exe is missing or corrupt - 0xc000000f".

I then tried reformatting the new sata drive, using disk management, to see if I couldn't get rid of the winloader.exe problem. I think but I am not sure, that maybe windows partially loaded to the new sata drive.

Rebooted in hope the second boot option would be gone, it wasnt.

In his BIOS, after all of this I changed the bootup sequence.
1.) CD Rom
2.) New sata drive
3.) Old IDE drive

Rebooted, it has booted into vista, but once again onto the IDE hd.

I have since tried, reinstalling vista, by deleting the "OLD C" and installing vista onto the new sata drive, and yet again it almost gets there and then I get Boot Manager" Winload.exe is missing or corrupt - 0xc000000f".

Fiery said:

Gday



In his BIOS, after all of this I changed the bootup sequence.
1.) CD Rom
2.) New sata drive
3.) Old IDE drive

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Hi Fiery,

By the sounds of it, the MBR (Multiple Boot Record) resides solely on the IDE drive as it was the first HDD in the boot order originally. The fact that it's bypassing the SATA drive suggests this.

If Booting the Vista installation on the IDE drive is no longer necessary, I'd personally try:

Disconnect the IDE drive

Re-run start up repair to create the MBR on the SATA drive. This should make the new Vista installation bootable.

If for some reason that did not work ( ie a corrupt installation) I would re-install Vista with the SATA drive being the only connected drive.

Once Vista is booting properly from the SATA HDD, re-attach the IDE drive. By rights, it should now ignore the MBR on the IDE drive and boot normally.

From there, you can then retrieve whatever you need from the IDE drive or format it completely from within the new Vista installation.

smarteyeball said:

Fiery said:

Gday



In his BIOS, after all of this I changed the bootup sequence.
1.) CD Rom
2.) New sata drive
3.) Old IDE drive

Click to expand...

Hi Fiery,

By the sounds of it, the MBR (Multiple Boot Record) resides solely on the IDE drive as it was the first HDD in the boot order originally. The fact that it's bypassing the SATA drive suggests this.

If Booting the Vista installation on the IDE drive is no longer necessary, I'd personally try:

Disconnect the IDE drive

Re-run start up repair to create the MBR on the SATA drive. This should make the new Vista installation bootable.

If for some reason that did not work ( ie a corrupt installation) I would re-install Vista with the SATA drive being the only connected drive.

Once Vista is booting properly from the SATA HDD, re-attach the IDE drive. By rights, it should now ignore the MBR on the IDE drive and boot normally.

From there, you can then retrieve whatever you need from the IDE drive or format it completely from within the new Vista installation.

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Ok the new sata hd I have is a WD Green Caviar, it comes with a tool called Data LifeGuard. So I have used that tool to partition, and it does like a copy of the OS.

However, as my husbands PC does not have a floppy rom drive, I haven't been able to install the sata drivers. I have tried using a thumbdrive, but that doesn't look like it worked. But I don't know for sure, because the drive shows up and works in windows.

I must confess I've never had any need to use SATA drivers during a Vista installation - it's always worked automatically :huh:

The only thing I can think of is to ensure that those drivers are okay for Vista and aren't for XP. If they are, were they unzipped etc?

They should also be in the Root of the drive, and not in a folder.

How exactly are you attempting to install Vista? Via the installation DVD?

Forgive me if I have misinterpreted, but you aren't attempting to Copy the Vista installation from the IDE drive to the SATA drive?

Well that didnt work came up with "A Disk Read Error Occured. Press CTRL+ALT+DEL to restart"

Fiery said:

Well that didnt work came up with "A Disk Read Error Occured. Press CTRL+ALT+DEL to restart"

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What didn't work? :huh:

Remove the Disk 0 cable from the original HDD and connect it to the new WD 1 T HDD making it a new installation on a single drive, once this is running place the Disk 1 cable back on it and the Disk 0 cable back on the original HDD then format the 2nd partition on Disk 0. You may have to associate the Vista partition for dual boot later or your husband can choose the Disk 1 as the primary boot drive either in BIOS or via F12 on boot up.

fishnbanjo said:

Remove the Disk 0 cable from the original HDD and connect it to the new WD 1 T HDD making it a new installation on a single drive, once this is running place the Disk 1 cable back on it and the Disk 0 cable back on the original HDD then format the 2nd partition on Disk 0. You may have to associate the Vista partition for dual boot later or your husband can choose the Disk 1 as the primary boot drive either in BIOS or via F12 on boot up.

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One small problem with that method mate, the original HDD is an IDE and the other is a SATA HDD

smarteyeball said:

I must confess I've never had any need to use SATA drivers during a Vista installation - it's always worked automatically :huh:

The only thing I can think of is to ensure that those drivers are okay for Vista and aren't for XP. If they are, were they unzipped etc?

They should also be in the Root of the drive, and not in a folder.

How exactly are you attempting to install Vista? Via the installation DVD?

Forgive me if I have misinterpreted, but you aren't attempting to Copy the Vista installation from the IDE drive to the SATA drive?

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Yes they are XP drivers Asus doesn't have Vista Drivers. I used my tower to extract the files from the Asus motherboard and put them on the thumbdrive.

And no not trying to copy the OS to the new sata hd. I have been trying a clean install of Vista to the new sata drive.

Arrrrrrggggg I think I just found out why the drivers cannot be installed. It's because the sata drivers aren't on showing on the motherboard disk. On bootup with the motherboard disk in the drive, it brings up a dos screen, and it says ...........................

yes you guessed it "please insert floppy into drive A and choose the sata drivers you require" ........ jimney crickets, how many towers these days have floppy drives??

smarteyeball said:

Fiery said:

Well that didnt work came up with "A Disk Read Error Occured. Press CTRL+ALT+DEL to restart"

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What didn't work? :huh:

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Hi Fiery,

By the sounds of it, the MBR (Multiple Boot Record) resides solely on the IDE drive as it was the first HDD in the boot order originally. The fact that it's bypassing the SATA drive suggests this.

If Booting the Vista installation on the IDE drive is no longer necessary, I'd personally try:

Disconnect the IDE drive

Re-run start up repair to create the MBR on the SATA drive. This should make the new Vista installation bootable.

If for some reason that did not work ( ie a corrupt installation) I would re-install Vista with the SATA drive being the only connected drive.

Once Vista is booting properly from the SATA HDD, re-attach the IDE drive. By rights, it should now ignore the MBR on the IDE drive and boot normally.

From there, you can then retrieve whatever you need from the IDE drive or format it completely from within the new Vista installation.

That didn't work

Hi Fiery,

That's because the IDE is the boot drive.

The boot critical files are on there.

1. d/l a copy of the 7 ( yes, I did say 7 ) repair disc - the same bit version as your Vista installations.

Download Windows 7 System Recovery Discs — The NeoSmart Files

2. Rt click NEW Vista partition and mark as active.

3. Set the NEW HD first in bios HD boot order (looks like you did that already)

( otherwise, mark IDE drive partition as INACTIVE )

4. Boot the 7 cd - windows loading files, select language and keyboard - Next - you get a screen saying "Install Now" - don't click that - the installation files are not on there.

At the bottom of that screen - click "Repair My Computer" - run startup repair 3 times.

5. The NEW HD will be the boot drive , and the NEW vista partition will be labelled as "system".

6. Add any other o/s to the Vista boot menu , using bcdedit, or Easybcd:

EasyBCD 2.0 Beta Builds - The NeoSmart Forums

Hope it helps.

That seems to have resulted in a deafening silence.

How are you getting on?

SIW2 said:

That seems to have resulted in a deafening silence.

How are you getting on?

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lolz sorry I need to step back from my husbands pc now and then, otherwise it will drive me totally insane

smarteyeball said:

fishnbanjo said:

Remove the Disk 0 cable from the original HDD and connect it to the new WD 1 T HDD making it a new installation on a single drive, once this is running place the Disk 1 cable back on it and the Disk 0 cable back on the original HDD then format the 2nd partition on Disk 0. You may have to associate the Vista partition for dual boot later or your husband can choose the Disk 1 as the primary boot drive either in BIOS or via F12 on boot up.

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One small problem with that method mate, the original HDD is an IDE and the other is a SATA HDD

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Well OK the cables can't be swapped but the SATA drive can still be the Disk 0 drive if the IDE drive is disconnected which will allow for a clean installation of the OS.

fishnbanjo said:

smarteyeball said:

fishnbanjo said:

Remove the Disk 0 cable from the original HDD and connect it to the new WD 1 T HDD making it a new installation on a single drive, once this is running place the Disk 1 cable back on it and the Disk 0 cable back on the original HDD then format the 2nd partition on Disk 0. You may have to associate the Vista partition for dual boot later or your husband can choose the Disk 1 as the primary boot drive either in BIOS or via F12 on boot up.

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One small problem with that method mate, the original HDD is an IDE and the other is a SATA HDD

Click to expand...

Well OK the cables can't be swapped but the SATA drive can still be the Disk 0 drive if the IDE drive is disconnected which will allow for a clean installation of the OS.

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I have tried disconnecting the IDE altogether, loaded the OS onto the sata, and on reboot i get "A Disk Read Error Occured. Press CTRL+ALT+DEL to restart".

At the moment I need to recheck all the cables, is a bit hard though my teenage stepson keeps interrupting me, wanting to play on the PC.

Although I doubt it is the cables, because the sata shows in the bios, and also when the IDE is plugged in everything on the sata is accessible.

SIW2 said:

Hi Fiery,

That's because the IDE is the boot drive.

The boot critical files are on there.

1. d/l a copy of the 7 ( yes, I did say 7 ) repair disc - the same bit version as your Vista installations.

Download Windows 7 System Recovery Discs — The NeoSmart Files

2. Rt click NEW Vista partition and mark as active.

3. Set the NEW HD first in bios HD boot order (looks like you did that already)

( otherwise, mark IDE drive partition as INACTIVE )

4. Boot the 7 cd - windows loading files, select language and keyboard - Next - you get a screen saying "Install Now" - don't click that - the installation files are not on there.

At the bottom of that screen - click "Repair My Computer" - run startup repair 3 times.

5. The NEW HD will be the boot drive , and the NEW vista partition will be labelled as "system".

6. Add any other o/s to the Vista boot menu , using bcdedit, or Easybcd:

EasyBCD 2.0 Beta Builds - The NeoSmart Forums

Hope it helps.

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At the bottom of that screen - click "Repair My Computer" - run startup repair 3 times.

Right I followed your instructions, downloaded the Win7 recovery and also Easybcd, the good new is Easybcd got rid of the dual startup.

Bad news is :-
At the bottom of that screen - click "Repair My Computer" - run startup repair 3 times. It came up with an error, with words to the effect of Windows cannot repair.

Although it pains me, I am thinking of returning the sata hd to place of purchase, and buying a 500GB IDE HD, and also a IDE to SATA or SATA to IDE Bi-Directional Converter.

Because as you are no doubt aware that mobo's these days only allow two IDE connections, he has his current 40GB HD, and a IDE DVDRom.

And as I am a freak about having everything backed up to another source. I would install Vista to the new 500GB IDE HD and use his 40GB IDE as a backup.

In the meantime I have unpartitioned his 40GB HD, so Vista has a little breathing space.

And have backed up the stuff he had on that partition to my WD Elite.

I HAVEN'T GIVEN UP ON THE SATA YET!!!!!!!! Although my patience is beginning to wear thin with it

Have you solved it Fiery?

Yup, took back the sata hd and bought an IDE hd, installed an IDE/raid card, so that he could use his old IDE hd new IDE hd and his IDE DVDrom